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La Xinga
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Founded: Jul 12, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby La Xinga » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:39 am

"After your highest-ranking legislative aide dedicated his new memoir to ‘my parents, @LEADER@ and Maxx’, unreputable news sources, the @@ANIMAL@@ Gazette and the @@NATION@@ Times have been harassing your office incessantly about nepotism in your administration. An assortment of advisers have met with you over some bamboo soup to discuss this serial issue."

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Only state-controlled media is permitted.

Don't really match. State Controlled Media? Media harrassing the state?

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The Free Joy State
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Founded: Jan 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:55 pm

La xinga wrote:"After your highest-ranking legislative aide dedicated his new memoir to ‘my parents, @LEADER@ and Maxx’, unreputable news sources, the @@ANIMAL@@ Gazette and the @@NATION@@ Times have been harassing your office incessantly about nepotism in your administration. An assortment of advisers have met with you over some bamboo soup to discuss this serial issue."

and the policy

State Press

Only state-controlled media is permitted.

Don't really match. State Controlled Media? Media harrassing the state?

In future, please give the name/number of the issue you received. Editors also don't really require the giant font. You help us far more by simply stating the issue and its potential problem.

As for your query, this issue has been amended.
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Sunhizria
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Founded: May 21, 2020
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Sunhizria » Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:01 pm

I always felt there was a problem with 274, I felt that option 1, is very similar to option 3 of issues 32, both option has government butting out of marriage, yet only 1 legalize polygamy. It would better if the other one could do it as well.

quoting the texts
"Multiple wives? Excellent!" says passer-by @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Presumably we will allow multiple husbands, as well. And gay marriages, of course. In fact, now is probably the time for the government to butt out of marriage altogether. Let people marry their cats, if they want."

"We just want to get married!" Jill yells to a nearby reporter. "What exactly is wrong with a brother and a sister getting married? Who are we hurting?!" adds Jack, defensively. "The government should just butt out of marriage. It's not their business who or what we marry
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The Free Joy State
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Founded: Jan 05, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:05 pm

Sunhizria wrote:I always felt there was a problem with 274, I felt that option 1, is very similar to option 3 of issues 32, both option has government butting out of marriage, yet only 1 legalize polygamy. It would better if the other one could do it as well. *snip*

Only one issue has the option to legalise, or mentions, polygamy because only one issue is about polygamy (the other is about incest).

Secondly, this is not the thread for suggesting subjective changes to issues, only for objective errors in spelling, grammar or punctuation or suspected errors in macros or validities.

Finally, changes to issues are only ever made due to necessity, never just for additional comprehensiveness.
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Authoritaria-Imperia
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Founded: Nov 06, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:17 am

#1205, option 1 reads, highlighting mine:
“Oh dear, oh no. Don’t panic. I said, don’t panic!” yelps Randy Barry, clutching a map of the South Pacific. “We need search parties. Lots of them. Scour each state. Search the roads. Sweep the skies. Send out dolphins with cameras strapped to their head! The works! We’re in a national crisis every minute we’re heir-less!”
I guess it's possible this is meant to say "the South Pacific", but it sounds more like an error that's meant to say "@@REGION@@" given the context (someone in @@NAME@@ has escaped and needs to be found). I could be wrong though.
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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:27 am

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:#1205, option 1 reads, highlighting mine:
“Oh dear, oh no. Don’t panic. I said, don’t panic!” yelps Randy Barry, clutching a map of the South Pacific. “We need search parties. Lots of them. Scour each state. Search the roads. Sweep the skies. Send out dolphins with cameras strapped to their head! The works! We’re in a national crisis every minute we’re heir-less!”
I guess it's possible this is meant to say "the South Pacific", but it sounds more like an error that's meant to say "@@REGION@@" given the context (someone in @@NAME@@ has escaped and needs to be found). I could be wrong though.

Intentionally says the South Pacific just as a nod to the game world.

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Authoritaria-Imperia
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:33 am

Luna Amore wrote:Intentionally says the South Pacific just as a nod to the game world.
Ah, okay. Thanks for the quick response! :)
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The Unified Missourtama States
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Ex-Nation

dilemma=1302 choice 4

Postby The Unified Missourtama States » Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:18 am

“I hear that the World Census people have put in a mechanism for nations to change which letters are capitalized in nation names, so for example Brancaland could choose to rename itself bRanCaLand.

The reference that you would be able to name a nation starting with a lowercase letter (as the b in the highlighted bRanCaLand) is incorrect, all nation names must start with a capital letter.
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The Free Joy State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:47 pm

The Unified Missourtama States wrote:
“I hear that the World Census people have put in a mechanism for nations to change which letters are capitalized in nation names, so for example Brancaland could choose to rename itself bRanCaLand.

The reference that you would be able to name a nation starting with a lowercase letter (as the b in the highlighted bRanCaLand) is incorrect, all nation names must start with a capital letter.

This is not an error. This is a NationState's issue about the question of changing @@NAME@@'s name (something else you can't do in the game) because a new nation shares it (something that can't happen with extant nations in the game). The issues, like the WA, exist as their own world, and do not acknowledge that they are part of a game.

Odd capitalisation is an option for the leader of a nation -- which is the driving seat the issues place you in -- that wishes to differentiate themselves from another with a very similar name (which has happened in the world, as with the Republic of Congo and the Democratic Republic of Congo, or Macedonia -- the state in Greece -- and the nation of Macedonia -- which recently renamed itself North Macedonia to end the dispute with Greece).
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Ezechard
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Founded: Dec 20, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Ezechard » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:57 am

There should be a full stop after 'Maximisation' in option 4 of issue 304:

“Are you trying to cripple our economy completely?” implores Cornelius Delauter, Director of Proletariat Productivity Maximisation “If people have children, that’s their own lookout! The State didn’t cause the pregnancy, did it? All parental leave should be banned! We’re not heartless bastards, though. Of course momma can take a sick or vacation day, or maybe even two!”
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Gandoor
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Founded: Sep 23, 2008
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Gandoor » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:30 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Gandoor wrote:Hey, so I'm not sure if this is necessarily the right place for this, but Issue No. 1266 'Pink is the New Orange' has this single sentence serving as the issue itself:

And, well, as someone who is actually part of the trans community IRL, the word 'transgenderism' is actually considered to be a fairly offensive and outdated term that shouldn't be used anymore.

Like just for a couple of sources, both the GLAAD Glossary of Terms - Transgender here and this Terms and Phrases to Avoid PDF from Alberta Health Services here both include 'transgenderism' as an example of terminology that shouldn't be used when talking about trans people, both for the same reason that anti-transgender activists use the term to dehumanize trans people and reduce who we are to a mere 'condition'.

I've taken this backstage for discussion.

Since it's been a few days, I'm wondering if y'all are still discussing this or not? (Sorry if this is me being impatient/rude)
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Founded: Aug 28, 2015
Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:26 am

Discussions are ongoing, we're making sure we've got full feedback from all quarters first. We don't like to make changes of this sort without everybody getting a say.
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Pogaria
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:25 pm

Ezechard wrote:There should be a full stop after 'Maximisation' in option 4 of issue 304:

“Are you trying to cripple our economy completely?” implores Cornelius Delauter, Director of Proletariat Productivity Maximisation “If people have children, that’s their own lookout! The State didn’t cause the pregnancy, did it? All parental leave should be banned! We’re not heartless bastards, though. Of course momma can take a sick or vacation day, or maybe even two!”

Thank you. I fixed it.
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Gandoor
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Gandoor » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:48 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Discussions are ongoing, we're making sure we've got full feedback from all quarters first. We don't like to make changes of this sort without everybody getting a say.

Alright, thanks for the clarification that y'all are still discussing it.
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Authoritaria-Imperia
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Founded: Nov 06, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:30 am

#699 ("Pipe Down, Already!") has a typo in the description (formatting mine):
Residents across your nation have been poisoned due to dangerous levels of lead in the drinking water. A particularly vocal quartet have arrived to tell you how they think you should handle the problem.
Although its definition is "four people", "quartet" is a singular noun, so that should read "has arrived".
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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:40 am

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:#699 ("Pipe Down, Already!") has a typo in the description (formatting mine):
Residents across your nation have been poisoned due to dangerous levels of lead in the drinking water. A particularly vocal quartet have arrived to tell you how they think you should handle the problem.
Although its definition is "four people", "quartet" is a singular noun, so that should read "has arrived".

I believe that's a American/UK difference with how collective nouns are handled.

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Candlewhisper Archive
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Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:10 pm

Gandoor wrote:Hey, so I'm not sure if this is necessarily the right place for this, but Issue No. 1266 'Pink is the New Orange' has this single sentence serving as the issue itself:
It’s been identified that among male prisoners, the prevalence of transgenderism is four times that of the general population.

And, well, as someone who is actually part of the trans community IRL, the word 'transgenderism' is actually considered to be a fairly offensive and outdated term that shouldn't be used anymore.

Like just for a couple of sources, both the GLAAD Glossary of Terms - Transgender here and this Terms and Phrases to Avoid PDF from Alberta Health Services here both include 'transgenderism' as an example of terminology that shouldn't be used when talking about trans people, both for the same reason that anti-transgender activists use the term to dehumanize trans people and reduce who we are to a mere 'condition'.


Okay, after extensive deliberation and discussion, the opening to this issue has been changed, and reads:

It’s been identified that the proportion of transgender people in male prisons is around four times that of the general population.


This has been enlightening, as many of us weren't at all aware that the term "transgenderism" had dehumanising connotations or was something to be avoided.
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Gandoor
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Gandoor » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:45 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Gandoor wrote:Hey, so I'm not sure if this is necessarily the right place for this, but Issue No. 1266 'Pink is the New Orange' has this single sentence serving as the issue itself:

And, well, as someone who is actually part of the trans community IRL, the word 'transgenderism' is actually considered to be a fairly offensive and outdated term that shouldn't be used anymore.

Like just for a couple of sources, both the GLAAD Glossary of Terms - Transgender here and this Terms and Phrases to Avoid PDF from Alberta Health Services here both include 'transgenderism' as an example of terminology that shouldn't be used when talking about trans people, both for the same reason that anti-transgender activists use the term to dehumanize trans people and reduce who we are to a mere 'condition'.


Okay, after extensive deliberation and discussion, the opening to this issue has been changed, and reads:

It’s been identified that the proportion of transgender people in male prisons is around four times that of the general population.


This has been enlightening, as many of us weren't at all aware that the term "transgenderism" had dehumanising connotations or was something to be avoided.

Hey, thanks.

Really grateful for this change!
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Free Las Pinas
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Free Las Pinas » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:56 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Gandoor wrote:Hey, so I'm not sure if this is necessarily the right place for this, but Issue No. 1266 'Pink is the New Orange' has this single sentence serving as the issue itself:

And, well, as someone who is actually part of the trans community IRL, the word 'transgenderism' is actually considered to be a fairly offensive and outdated term that shouldn't be used anymore.

Like just for a couple of sources, both the GLAAD Glossary of Terms - Transgender here and this Terms and Phrases to Avoid PDF from Alberta Health Services here both include 'transgenderism' as an example of terminology that shouldn't be used when talking about trans people, both for the same reason that anti-transgender activists use the term to dehumanize trans people and reduce who we are to a mere 'condition'.


Okay, after extensive deliberation and discussion, the opening to this issue has been changed, and reads:

It’s been identified that the proportion of transgender people in male prisons is around four times that of the general population.


This has been enlightening, as many of us weren't at all aware that the term "transgenderism" had dehumanising connotations or was something to be avoided.
Thank you for this!

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Twistwarp
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Founded: Apr 01, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Twistwarp » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:16 pm

Issue #703, "Divine Decorations", needs a new Validity check to prevent it from arising for Violetist nations. Alternatively, it needs a new option #2 for Violetists... maybe even just the removal of option #2. I'm mostly complaining that "letting the Violetists refurbish the town hall" as a concession only makes sense if Violetism isn't already in charge.

I think I'm going to go for option #1 to actually answer the issue. Violetists specifically kill the rude, right? They hate people getting away with secret rudeness and putting on a fine face elsewhere, and if you let them absolutely run rampant the nation gets sharply more polite. Without looking it up, I seem to recall a different issue with "gallows are being erected next to Violetist temples"... Killing people for what they say is pretty rude, so Violetists must be onto something if they can do that in a way that makes society more polite, eh? Hah. Actually, I think I'm going to use answer #1 on this one... Dying for it is... not a rude way to request a reduction of religious expression. I think setting oneself on fire as an act of protest is acceptable and persuasive within Violetism as I understand it, so when the specific holy text being burned is Violetism, I think that can be fairly treated as something that would weaken Violetist zeal.

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The Free Joy State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:37 pm

Twistwarp wrote:Issue #703, "Divine Decorations", needs a new Validity check to prevent it from arising for Violetist nations. Alternatively, it needs a new option #2 for Violetists... maybe even just the removal of option #2. I'm mostly complaining that "letting the Violetists refurbish the town hall" as a concession only makes sense if Violetism isn't already in charge.

This issue has been amended. Official Violetist nations should no longer get this issue.
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Aibohphobia
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Founded: Mar 15, 2012
Ex-Nation

Issue #1392

Postby Aibohphobia » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:45 pm

Option #2:
those other incompetent zasranets
I'm assuming the author of the issue knows what the last word stands for in Russian, right? Because the English equivalent would be, in more medical terms, "anus". Additionally, "zasranets" is singular, not plural. The plural is "zasrantsy" (or "zasrantsi", depending on how you want to transliterate the Russian "засранцы").

P.S. This is part of the "Madness" issue chain.
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Pogaria
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:31 am

Aibohphobia wrote:Option #2:
those other incompetent zasranets
I'm assuming the author of the issue knows what the last word stands for in Russian, right? Because the English equivalent would be, in more medical terms, "anus". Additionally, "zasranets" is singular, not plural. The plural is "zasrantsy" (or "zasrantsi", depending on how you want to transliterate the Russian "засранцы").

P.S. This is part of the "Madness" issue chain.

Thank you. I don't speak Russian. My source must have been incorrect. I'll change it to "zasrantsi".
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Aibohphobia
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Founded: Mar 15, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Aibohphobia » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:46 pm

Pogaria wrote:
Aibohphobia wrote:Option #2:
I'm assuming the author of the issue knows what the last word stands for in Russian, right? Because the English equivalent would be, in more medical terms, "anus". Additionally, "zasranets" is singular, not plural. The plural is "zasrantsy" (or "zasrantsi", depending on how you want to transliterate the Russian "засранцы").

P.S. This is part of the "Madness" issue chain.

Thank you. I don't speak Russian. My source must have been incorrect. I'll change it to "zasrantsi".
Thank you. How well does it go with the rules of the website though? Is it considered a "swearing" or not? I personally don't mind, but we have school kids here, so how does it go with that? I don't recall the English equivalent ever being used in any other issues.

In case there was any concern about the legitimacy of my previous post, I am a native Russian speaker and an ex-linguist.

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Pogaria
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:04 pm

Aibohphobia wrote:
Pogaria wrote:Thank you. I don't speak Russian. My source must have been incorrect. I'll change it to "zasrantsi".
Thank you. How well does it go with the rules of the website though? Is it considered a "swearing" or not? I personally don't mind, but we have school kids here, so how does it go with that? I don't recall the English equivalent ever being used in any other issues.

Class nations won't receive this chain. Furthermore, this seems milder than the sort of language that I routinely see on the forums.

Aibohphobia wrote:In case there was any concern about the legitimacy of my previous post, I am a native Russian speaker and an ex-linguist.

Thanks again for your help. I'll let you know if we ever need any more Russian translations. :)
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