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[Old Northwest]

More on Atheism, this option (#33.2) should not be available to Atheist nations:

“This is a sacrilege!” says religious leader Hack Pond. “These animals are extinct because God wants them dead. Cloning them would merely incur his wrath! If we proceed down this path, it’ll be humans, not the feather-bellied orca, who will be extinct.”

Just because your nation has outlawed religion does not mean that religious people do not exist, it only means that they are breaking the law by doing so. I believe that this option should still exist for that reason. Plus, then, how would anyone reverse their decision to go atheist if they changed their mind?

[Aryax]

More on Atheism, this option (#33.2) should not be available to Atheist nations:

“This is a sacrilege!” says religious leader Hack Pond. “These animals are extinct because God wants them dead. Cloning them would merely incur his wrath! If we proceed down this path, it’ll be humans, not the feather-bellied orca, who will be extinct.”

Just because your nation has outlawed religion does not mean that religious people do not exist, it only means that they are breaking the law by doing so. I believe that this option should still exist for that reason. Plus, then, how would anyone reverse their decision to go atheist if they changed their mind?

Precisely because they are breaking the law they should not go to Leader for help. This would bring the option in line with NS precedent on option validities, it is even more clear than the previous one I reported which was amended.

Your second argument is ridiculous, since selecting this option does not repeal the Atheism policy at all, and there are other issues that allow you to do so because they were designed specifically for that - as with any policy.

[Tien Nemh]

I got issue 856 "You Got Stones" and picked option 4. This is the effect line I got:

stone wrist watches that weigh 20lb are the latest trend

I don't think it should say "20lb", since this nation has the Metricism policy. Is this even a thing that should be fixed?

[Old Northwest]

Just because your nation has outlawed religion does not mean that religious people do not exist, it only means that they are breaking the law by doing so. I believe that this option should still exist for that reason. Plus, then, how would anyone reverse their decision to go atheist if they changed their mind?

Precisely because they are breaking the law they should not go to Leader for help. This would bring the option in line with NS precedent on option validities, it is even more clear than the previous one I reported which was amended.

Your second argument is ridiculous, since selecting this option does not repeal the Atheism policy at all, and there are other issues that allow you to do so because they were designed specifically for that - as with any policy.

Fair points. I just assumed that selecting that issue would repeal atheism. Plus I never considered the realism of demanding religious policy in an atheist nation - it’d be like walking up to President Trump and demanding that he outlaw the Republican Party. So yeah, I actually agree with you.

[Old Northwest]

I got issue 856 "You Got Stones" and picked option 4. This is the effect line I got:

stone wrist watches that weigh 20lb are the latest trend

I don't think it should say "20lb", since this nation has the Metricism policy. Is this even a thing that should be fixed?

Most of those issue results are meant to be quick one-liners, not actual policy, so I don’t think it’s too big of an issue.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

I'd note that something can still weigh 20lb in a nation with metric measurements as a standard. It just wouldn't be legally or commercially referred to as such.

[Land With a Proper Amount of Shrimp]

Question - I could be incorrect, but this nation just received Issue 626, which references a "computer databank" in the intro text. Should I be able to receive this issue, since I've banned computers? Thanks

[TalAkMaChen]

Probably similar to my report on 764 without internet ... the gov might still do that, whyever.

[The Free Joy State]

Question - I could be incorrect, but this nation just received Issue 626, which references a "computer databank" in the intro text. Should I be able to receive this issue, since I've banned computers? Thanks

Thank you for raising this.

Amended.

[Tinhampton]

Option 1183.1 begins thusly:

“I can’t take it any more the Puppetmistress [@@LEADER@@]!” wails Amber Rifkin [@@RANDOMFEMALENAME_1@@], plumping down on your chair in her pajamas — then taking a sip from her chamomile tea and rubbing her belly.

...shouldn't there be a comma after "more?"

[Aryax]

More on Atheism, this option (#33.2) should not be available to Atheist nations:

“This is a sacrilege!” says religious leader Hack Pond. “These animals are extinct because God wants them dead. Cloning them would merely incur his wrath! If we proceed down this path, it’ll be humans, not the feather-bellied orca, who will be extinct.”

Sorry, but this remains unaddressed (either for/against the change).

[TalAkMaChen]

This seems similar to other Atheism-related issues others like myself have raised before, i.e. See the editors' plan to discuss things internally here as ref. to 218 (bottom, point 8 of that list). I guess those things will stay in the game until the editors have reached some consensus how to deal with all the religious speakers in Atheist nations. For (a) I agree there needs to be issues to revoke the Atheism policy, but (b) it seems weird to have so many religious (organized or not) speakers coming to @@LEADER@@ to option their views in a nations that outlawed religious things. I guess that is why they are trying to find some measure which isssues/options to allow in Atheist nations and which to hide.

[The Free Joy State]

Option 1183.1 begins thusly:

“I can’t take it any more the Puppetmistress [@@LEADER@@]!” wails Amber Rifkin [@@RANDOMFEMALENAME_1@@], plumping down on your chair in her pajamas — then taking a sip from her chamomile tea and rubbing her belly.

...shouldn't there be a comma after "more?"

Yes, I'd say so. Change made.

[Aryax]

This seems similar to other Atheism-related issues others like myself have raised before, i.e. See the editors' plan to discuss things internally here as ref. to 218 (bottom, point 8 of that list). I guess those things will stay in the game until the editors have reached some consensus how to deal with all the religious speakers in Atheist nations. For (a) I agree there needs to be issues to revoke the Atheism policy, but (b) it seems weird to have so many religious (organized or not) speakers coming to @@LEADER@@ to option their views in a nations that outlawed religious things. I guess that is why they are trying to find some measure which isssues/options to allow in Atheist nations and which to hide.

Well, I definitely overlooked that. Thanks.

[The Unified Missourtama States]

dilemma 632: Dying for a Kiss (fix strange wording)

desc: Harriet Ryan, a 15-year-old immigrant residing in the city of The Unified Missourtama States City, was murdered recently. The unusual circumstance here is that her killer was her own father, who had executed her in an ‘Honor Killing’, for sharing a kiss with a Missourtaman boy. The father has now been arrested, but he is showing no remorse.


I think @@CAPITAL@@ or @@ANIMAL@@ should be used instead of @@NAME@@ City, because especially with a name like mine, it doesn't really flow or sound like a real city.
Also I find it a bit strange to be 'the city of __ City'. That is an unnecessary repitition.

[Tinhampton]

dilemma 632: Dying for a Kiss (fix strange wording)

desc: Harriet Ryan, a 15-year-old immigrant residing in the city of The Unified Missourtama States City, was murdered recently. The unusual circumstance here is that her killer was her own father, who had executed her in an ‘Honor Killing’, for sharing a kiss with a Missourtaman boy. The father has now been arrested, but he is showing no remorse.


I think @@CAPITAL@@ or @@ANIMAL@@ should be used instead of @@NAME@@ City, because especially with a name like mine, it doesn't really flow or sound like a real city.
Also I find it a bit strange to be 'the city of __ City'. That is an unnecessary repitition.

Your capital city, @@CAPITAL@@, is called @@NAME@@ City by default - because you have not chosen an option in #242 that would allow you to name your capital.

[The Free Joy State]

dilemma 632: Dying for a Kiss (fix strange wording)

desc: Harriet Ryan, a 15-year-old immigrant residing in the city of The Unified Missourtama States City, was murdered recently. The unusual circumstance here is that her killer was her own father, who had executed her in an ‘Honor Killing’, for sharing a kiss with a Missourtaman boy. The father has now been arrested, but he is showing no remorse.


I think @@CAPITAL@@ or @@ANIMAL@@ should be used instead of @@NAME@@ City, because especially with a name like mine, it doesn't really flow or sound like a real city.
Also I find it a bit strange to be 'the city of __ City'. That is an unnecessary repitition.

As Tinhampton says, the issue already uses @@CAPITAL@@. What you see is what is automatically generated when there is no player-specified capital.

You have definitely received #241 (which allows you to name your capital) some time ago, all options of which now allow you to name your city (except dismissal), since the summer of 2018.

I suggest you visit your Settings and see if you have the option to name your @@CAPITAL@@. If you do not, that suggests you must have dismissed the issue. If this is the case, it will reappear at some future point, but I can't say when.

[Honeydewistania]

dilemma 632: Dying for a Kiss (fix strange wording)

desc: Harriet Ryan, a 15-year-old immigrant residing in the city of The Unified Missourtama States City, was murdered recently. The unusual circumstance here is that her killer was her own father, who had executed her in an ‘Honor Killing’, for sharing a kiss with a Missourtaman boy. The father has now been arrested, but he is showing no remorse.


I think @@CAPITAL@@ or @@ANIMAL@@ should be used instead of @@NAME@@ City, because especially with a name like mine, it doesn't really flow or sound like a real city.
Also I find it a bit strange to be 'the city of __ City'. That is an unnecessary repitition.

As Tinhampton says, the issue already uses @@CAPITAL@@. What you see is what is automatically generated when there is no player-specified capital.

You have definitely received #241 (which allows you to name your capital) some time ago, all options of which now allow you to name your city (except dismissal), since the summer of 2018.

I suggest you visit your Settings and see if you have the option to name your @@CAPITAL@@. If you do not, that suggests you must have dismissed the issue. If this is the case, it will reappear at some future point, but I can't say when.

I think the problem is that it says ‘the city of’ ..... ‘City’. Like if I named my capital Honeydewopolis City it’ll say the City of Honeydewopolis City which is unneeded repetition.

[The Free Joy State]

As Tinhampton says, the issue already uses @@CAPITAL@@. What you see is what is automatically generated when there is no player-specified capital.

You have definitely received #241 (which allows you to name your capital) some time ago, all options of which now allow you to name your city (except dismissal), since the summer of 2018.

I suggest you visit your Settings and see if you have the option to name your @@CAPITAL@@. If you do not, that suggests you must have dismissed the issue. If this is the case, it will reappear at some future point, but I can't say when.

I think the problem is that it says ‘the city of’ ..... ‘City’. Like if I named my capital Honeydewopolis City it’ll say the City of Honeydewopolis City which is unneeded repetition.

As far as I could gather, part of the issue was that the poster believed @@CAPITAL@@ was not being used.

The inclusion of "the city of" is a subjective stylistic change (requests for which, for future reference, are not the purpose of this thread). However, taking it out would not harm the issue. Removed.

[Zentata]

In the issue: "Two Mommies One Too Many" I think that there is an error here in what for me is option 2:

.....Think about it: say you have two gay Ghost Blue Herons - they can’t have children because nature did not provide them with the tools and if God wanted gays to have kids then they would have those tools. Don’t legalise this blasphemy! Think of the children!”

Shouldn't there be a comma in between "tools" and "and"?

[Verdant Haven]

I have a questionable or missing validity to bring up here.

I have recently received Issue 559 (A Low Aspiration Nation) multiple times. The basic premise in writing is that you have high unemployment, which is fair enough for me, but it goes on to present the issue as being the result of the economy being non-functional.

I do have low employment - 98th percentile globally - but my economy is godly. I have a 100/100 "Frightening" economy in the global top 3%, with an evenly-distributed top decile average income, and top quintile economic output. As a result, this issue as written really makes no sense.

I would suggest that perhaps an additional validity needs to be added, so that it doesn't just check unemployment, but also checks for a nation to actually have low economic stats as well.

[The Free Joy State]

I have a questionable or missing validity to bring up here.

I have recently received Issue 559 (A Low Aspiration Nation) multiple times. The basic premise in writing is that you have high unemployment, which is fair enough for me, but it goes on to present the issue as being the result of the economy being non-functional.

I do have low employment - 98th percentile globally - but my economy is godly. I have a 100/100 "Frightening" economy in the global top 3%, with an evenly-distributed top decile average income, and top quintile economic output. As a result, this issue as written really makes no sense.

I would suggest that perhaps an additional validity needs to be added, so that it doesn't just check unemployment, but also checks for a nation to actually have low economic stats as well.

Yes, that makes sense. It's been amended so the economically strongest nations can't receive it.

[Verdant Haven]

Yes, that makes sense. It's been amended so the economically strongest nations can't receive it.

Thanks, FJS!

[Polis Diamonil]

Hey, all the environmentalist policies in this game seem to cause genocides. I know this game is pretty deep in the abusive corporate stalker side of society, and like all authoritarian systems that makes it pretty intrinsically stagnant, but I felt I should point it out anyways. I know it's unlikely to be fixed, but it's just kind of obvious; the number of genocidal environmentalists in earth's history is nearly zero, and the number of people who've successfully launched genocidal campaigns of resistance against environmentalism is AFAIK literally zero.

The sharp fluctuations in response to environmentalism just don't happen. They're good long-term economic policy too, renovating the resource base of society. The worst thing that happens IRL to environmentalist nations is that such governments seem to be a bit porous to organized crime. The game already represents these by having the black market strengthen with environmentalism, so kudos. I wouldn't change that.

Going through and manually tuning all the issues that affect environmental beauty to have smaller effects would probably fix this, but if it's possible, changing the response characteristics of the environmental beauty graph might fix it more conveniently. IRL environmentalism is easier lost than gained, so the environmental beauty graph should be kind of a PITA to raise while being hard to regain losses against it. That would reflect the slow and boring nature of ecological gains (watching trees grow is slower than watching paint dry) vs the fast development of society. It takes focused action over time to improve the environment. A randomly governed society should tend to suffer environmental collapse.

[Tinhampton]

Option 1322.4 begins thusly:

“Yesterday, I had to change four patients in the space of half an hour,” interjects Shinzo King [@@RANDOMNAME@@], an overworked carer from A Punch And Judy Stand [@@CAPITAL@@] Lakes, “And you want me to supervise children too? [...]”

Except for proper nouns, capital letters never come after commas. Either the comma after "Lakes" should become a full stop - as is the case with the issue's other three options - or the word "And" should begin with a lower-case a.