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[Bears Armed]

In #1216, the Opposition Leader meets the [female] Supreme Leader of Blackacre. At Aragesh the leader ( = speaker of option 2) was a Mike, yet option 1 referring to that person as "she". Is this correct, to me Mike is a male name.

I've also seen it used as a short form for the female name 'Michelle'...

[Pogaria]

In #1216, the Opposition Leader meets the [female] Supreme Leader of Blackacre. At Aragesh the leader ( = speaker of option 2) was a Mike, yet option 1 referring to that person as "she". Is this correct, to me Mike is a male name.

In the first option, it looks like he/she is used the first time to refer to the Minister of Foreign Affairs. All other uses of he/she refer to the Opposition Leader, not the leader of Blackacre.

[TalAkMaChen]

In #1216, the Opposition Leader meets the [female] Supreme Leader of Blackacre. At Aragesh the leader ( = speaker of option 2) was a Mike, yet option 1 referring to that person as "she". Is this correct, to me Mike is a male name.

In the first option, it looks like he/she is used the first time to refer to the Minister of Foreign Affairs. All other uses of he/she refer to the Opposition Leader, not the leader of Blackacre.

Correct, that's how I also understand it. Question is, the Opposition Leader is a Mike, sounds male to me -- unless it's a short for Michelle as Bears Armed pointed out -- but the speaker was still talking about

How dare she undermine the democratically elected government of @@NAME@@ and embarrass us on the international stage!

etc.

[The Free Joy State]

In the first option, it looks like he/she is used the first time to refer to the Minister of Foreign Affairs. All other uses of he/she refer to the Opposition Leader, not the leader of Blackacre.

Correct, that's how I also understand it. Question is, the Opposition Leader is a Mike, sounds male to me -- unless it's a short for Michelle as Bears Armed pointed out -- but the speaker was still talking about

How dare she undermine the democratically elected government of @@NAME@@ and embarrass us on the international stage!

etc.

There was a little piece of code, which was impacting the way it was scanning. I've amended it now.

[TalAkMaChen]

At #285, option 4, i.e.

4. Slacker blogger @@RANDOMNAME@@, still in pajamas and eating a pizza slice on a ratty couch, sends you a video chat invitation. "Dude, why not just give everybody shorter work weeks? Make flex time, telecommuting, and 35-hour work weeks mandatory for all us working folk. Trust me, the people will love you for it man!"

is also available at nations that banned Internet and/or Computers. While I recognize that video chats and blogging can also be done via mobile (not over WiFi and likes) it seems improbable?

[The Free Joy State]

At #285, option 4, i.e.

4. Slacker blogger @@RANDOMNAME@@, still in pajamas and eating a pizza slice on a ratty couch, sends you a video chat invitation. "Dude, why not just give everybody shorter work weeks? Make flex time, telecommuting, and 35-hour work weeks mandatory for all us working folk. Trust me, the people will love you for it man!"

is also available at nations that banned Internet and/or Computers. While I recognize that video chats and blogging can also be done via mobile (not over WiFi and likes) it seems improbable?

NS also makes it possible for space programmes to exist with no computers. As you say, it's possible to work from home with a phone and typewriter.

I'll remove "blogger" and it's fine.

[NATIONS NAME]

Following new legislation in NATIONS NAME, NATION'S DNOUNS struggle to cut steak with a spoon.

Uses the wrong macro for plural demonym.

[TalAkMaChen]

I didn't think this was an error. I assumed that it's intentional for some reason that isn't obvious to me right now, and so posted it here because this is the thread for players trying to figure out option validities (which Jutsa tries to maintain in the spoiler list).

If it is an error that you have now fixed, then of course you are welcome to tell me so, but there is no need to act snide because for once I dared to assume competence on the issue editors' part.

The coding is correct and has always been so. Whether the issue is currently working correctly or not requires that things be reported in their correct place so that proper checking can be done.

For which we need the nation.

If you do not wish to provide the information, that is entirely up to you. Testing shows that it appears to be working as intended.

Well, it seems I also encountered that "issue" with 1121. At one of my War Dogs I could hide/activate the fourth option by removing/filling the Faith-field, but at War Dogs XXIII it remained hidden, even with a set field. Maybe you can check now, TFJS

[The Scientific Isles]

#930:

This discovery, accompanied by a garish bar graph, has made the front page of The The EUGSS Times.

Duplicate "the".

[Phydios]

#930:

This discovery, accompanied by a garish bar graph, has made the front page of The The EUGSS Times.

Duplicate "the".

Not the Issue Editors' fault. Your capital city is "The EUGSS". So when an issue is coded to say "The @@CAPITAL@@ Times", it shows up as "The The EUGSS Times".

[Leppikania]

#930:


Duplicate "the".

Not the Issue Editors' fault. Your capital city is "The EUGSS". So when an issue is coded to say "The @@CAPITAL@@ Times", it shows up as "The The EUGSS Times".

The newspaper title (for the issue) only had one "the", so it would seem that there is, in fact, a macro for this sort of thing.

[TalAkMaChen]

0. see above

1, Another question on validity. A War Dog-nation with compulsory Vegetarism got issue #330, including the butcher in option 1:

1. "Humongo-Mart is destroying our livelihoods!" shouts @@RANDOMNAME@@, the owner of a small butchery, while waving a bloody cleaver. "These chains are over-saturating our cities with ridiculously low prices. I simply can't compete. You need to put a stop to this. We need more regulations dictating where these supermarkets can be."

Sure, vegetarian nations could still export meat, but "a small" business would surely not be in that export-business?

2, Another point: Should issues be consistent in themselves with italics? That is, titles of books, TV shows, newspapers etc. be either all in italics or none. Issue #1 has 60 Minutes (italics, no quotes) but the book title (option 2) in single quotes without italics. Sure, it'd be too much work to change everything to a common scheme, but at least the issues themselves should be consistent.

3, In issue #733, option 1 fails to capitalize the @@LEADER@@ in the beginning. Surely a sentence should start with a capital letter.

4, War Dogs VI has banned cars, still received 620 with option 1 including a sports car. Not sure how this could be changed, "unloads his shopping bags full of designer clothes from the back of his sport bike" seem inappropriate, but you might figure something nice.

5, Issue 426 has as third option women's duty to "reproduce". This should be different at "Vat-Grown Infants"-nations?

6, The list goes on.. might I suggest a Socialist variant of #151,2? It features some CEO, usually the non-private industries have some other personnel speaking there.

7. Sorry to keep adding, but more pops up. At War Dogs XVI issue 836 starts with "The Citizens’ Chapel Cultivation Concept, a radical religious movement frequently accused of being a cult, shocked the country today after they committed mass suicide in the rural village of Gilligantown."
Later the leader of that group (options 4/5) name him Gilligan, too. ("former members testifying to Gilligan’s midnight muttering" and "But when this Gilligan guy started preaching").
Is the place really named after the leader of that CCCC? Maybe the name could be added in the issue "including the cult’s charismatic leader, @@RANDOMNAME_1@@."

8. Are "conservative religious organisations" still allowed in Atheist nations? #218.2 features one such example and is also offered to nations that (not just discourage but outright forbid religion) are Atheist.

[Jutsa]

Noticed issue 554 option 1 still has champagne in it despite my nation's prohibition.
Is that something that's been brought up, before?

[The Free Joy State]

Following new legislation in NATIONS NAME, NATION'S DNOUNS struggle to cut steak with a spoon.

Uses the wrong macro for plural demonym.

The code is correct and seems to be working fine for other nations. I'm not sure why it didn't work in this instance.

The coding is correct and has always been so. Whether the issue is currently working correctly or not requires that things be reported in their correct place so that proper checking can be done.

For which we need the nation.

If you do not wish to provide the information, that is entirely up to you. Testing shows that it appears to be working as intended.

Well, it seems I also encountered that "issue" with 1121. At one of my War Dogs I could hide/activate the fourth option by removing/filling the Faith-field, but at War Dogs XXIII it remained hidden, even with a set field. Maybe you can check now, TFJS

There's no issue with #1121. Religion is discouraged at War Dogs XXIII, while not illegal, so you did not receive the option.

And using the wink emoji without use of humour does not magically conjure humour out of thin air.

#930:

This discovery, accompanied by a garish bar graph, has made the front page of The The EUGSS Times.

Duplicate "the".

We can't account for people using "the" for their @@CAPITAL@@, @@NAME@@, @@LEADER@@ or @@FAITH@@. These things happen. I can't count how often they happen when I answer issues and how much I regret beginning my nation name with a "the".

Not the Issue Editors' fault. Your capital city is "The EUGSS". So when an issue is coded to say "The @@CAPITAL@@ Times", it shows up as "The The EUGSS Times".

The newspaper title (for the issue) only had one "the", so it would seem that there is, in fact, a macro for this sort of thing.

The admin may be able to code the automatic newspapers for that kind of thing (I'm not sure). We can't.

There is no macro for that kind of thing.

Noticed issue 554 option 1 still has champagne in it despite my nation's prohibition.
Is that something that's been brought up, before?

There's alcohol-free champagne. I think it's fine.

[Jutsa]

There's alcohol-free champagne. I think it's fine.

Thanks, Joy. That's kinda what I suspected, but didn't know about.

One day I'll sift through this clustershag of issue changes.

[Pogaria]

0. see above

That option has an interesting validity. I'll leave it up to you to continue figuring it out.

1, Another question on validity. A War Dog-nation with compulsory Vegetarism got issue #330, including the butcher in option 1:

1. "Humongo-Mart is destroying our livelihoods!" shouts @@RANDOMNAME@@, the owner of a small butchery, while waving a bloody cleaver. "These chains are over-saturating our cities with ridiculously low prices. I simply can't compete. You need to put a stop to this. We need more regulations dictating where these supermarkets can be."

Sure, vegetarian nations could still export meat, but "a small" business would surely not be in that export-business?

I know of many small businesses that only export or import things. For example, you can make a lot of money by buying porcelain tea sets in Vietnam, importing them to Japan, and reselling them to other businesses.

2, Another point: Should issues be consistent in themselves with italics? That is, titles of books, TV shows, newspapers etc. be either all in italics or none. Issue #1 has 60 Minutes (italics, no quotes) but the book title (option 2) in single quotes without italics. Sure, it'd be too much work to change everything to a common scheme, but at least the issues themselves should be consistent.

You're right. Many of the issues have inconsistent formatting. It's a side effect of having editors from all over the world. Currently, our limited editorial time is being spent on other, more pressing problems. If we spent all of our time fixing the italicization on the 1300+ existing issues, you wouldn't see any new issues for a long time.

3, In issue #733, option 1 fails to capitalize the @@LEADER@@ in the beginning. Surely a sentence should start with a capital letter.

See, that's the sort of marginally-higher-priority problem that I was talking about. I fixed it.

4, War Dogs VI has banned cars, still received 620 with option 1 including a sports car. Not sure how this could be changed, "unloads his shopping bags full of designer clothes from the back of his sport bike" seem inappropriate, but you might figure something nice.

I'll discuss it with the other editors. We'll change it to something appropriate.

5, Issue 426 has as third option women's duty to "reproduce". This should be different at "Vat-Grown Infants"-nations?

I updated the validity on that option.

6, The list goes on.. might I suggest a Socialist variant of #151,2? It features some CEO, usually the non-private industries have some other personnel speaking there.

I'll discuss it with the other editors.

7. Sorry to keep adding, but more pops up. At War Dogs XVI issue 836 starts with "The Citizens’ Chapel Cultivation Concept, a radical religious movement frequently accused of being a cult, shocked the country today after they committed mass suicide in the rural village of Gilligantown."
Later the leader of that group (options 4/5) name him Gilligan, too. ("former members testifying to Gilligan’s midnight muttering" and "But when this Gilligan guy started preaching").
Is the place really named after the leader of that CCCC? Maybe the name could be added in the issue "including the cult’s charismatic leader, @@RANDOMNAME_1@@."

Yes, the place is named after the cult leader. May I suggest that you read more about cults? It's a fascinating subject.

8. Are "conservative religious organisations" still allowed in Atheist nations? #218.2 features one such example and is also offered to nations that (not just discourage but outright forbid religion) are Atheist.

I'll discuss it with the other editors.

[Trotterdam]

1, Another question on validity. A War Dog-nation with compulsory Vegetarism got issue #330, including the butcher in option 1:

1. "Humongo-Mart is destroying our livelihoods!" shouts @@RANDOMNAME@@, the owner of a small butchery, while waving a bloody cleaver. "These chains are over-saturating our cities with ridiculously low prices. I simply can't compete. You need to put a stop to this. We need more regulations dictating where these supermarkets can be."

Sure, vegetarian nations could still export meat, but "a small" business would surely not be in that export-business?

I'm pretty sure the majority of nations that ban meat-eating would also want to ban the production and export of meat.

Furthermore, this specific small business is explicitly described as competing with a local supermarket, which is not something an exporter would be doing.

4, War Dogs VI has banned cars, still received 620 with option 1 including a sports car. Not sure how this could be changed, "unloads his shopping bags full of designer clothes from the back of his sport bike" seem inappropriate, but you might figure something nice.

Freight bicycles are a thing.

[TalAkMaChen]

Thanks, Pogaria!

There's another option/issue I encountered with an Atheist nation (War Dogs XI), namely 168, option 2 with its "religious leader" speaking up.

[The Marsupial Illuminati]

There's another option/issue I encountered with an Atheist nation (War Dogs XI), namely 168, option 2 with its "religious leader" speaking up.

This does not seem like a big deal. There are atheist churches. Also, the pseudo-policy "Atheism" states that in your nation "Religious worship is prohibited." This does not mean that religious leaders do not exist in your nation. And it is not our practice to expunge all options with religious speakers for nations that are atheistic. How else would one reverse on such a path?

[Candlewhisper Archive]

I dunno, if religion is banned, then it seems odd to have religious leaders.

Mind you, we still have military characters in nations with no armed forces.

We'll bounce this around some more backstage, and let y'all know if a change happens. In the meantime, consider the report noted and flagged for editorial attention. No need to raise this or similar points again, for now.

[Socialist State of LAY]

Issue 595, why does option 2 increase police spending and REDUCE civil rights, when you actually give more rights to people???

[Leutria]

Issue 595, why does option 2 increase police spending and REDUCE civil rights, when you actually give more rights to people???

Likely should be in the unusual effect thread.

I have a pretty good guess why you saw those effects anyway. Police spending because they have to buy and maintain those cameras, and a drop in civil rights because right to privacy is one of the rights tracked by the game. All those cameras would be a hit to that right. Since your civil rights are so high any rights that could have gone up had no where to go, so you only saw the hit there.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

Probably something like that.

Honestly, if you look at that user's post history you'll realise they're NEVER going to get the hang of using this forum.

[Aragesh]

Sorry to bother, but can I check somewhere whether the police still has guns? I thought Aragesh to be fully gun-free. At least civilians are not allowed (by policy), but at #431 the government guy (option 5) was active, thus there must be some guns. I can only see the last 6 days of events, so I might have changed the police-gun part at some earlier choice.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

It's not directly tracked but is instead taken as implied according to various backstage checks. It's not something that can be checked for you, sorry.