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Fauxia
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Postby Fauxia » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:23 pm

987- Shouldn't the lawyer's name be Slaughter or Hyde?
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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:26 pm

Fauxia wrote:987- Shouldn't the lawyer's name be Slaughter or Hyde?

No, why?

There's a global law firm called Kirkland & Ellis. Not every lawyer in the firm has to have the surname Kirkland or Ellis.
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Postby Fauxia » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:35 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
Fauxia wrote:987- Shouldn't the lawyer's name be Slaughter or Hyde?

No, why?

There's a global law firm called Kirkland & Ellis. Not every lawyer in the firm has to have the surname Kirkland or Ellis.

No, but I thought they were one of the lead lawyers, and would expect the name Bicker, Slaughter & Hyde would come from the top three's names, considering Bicker is one of them.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Frieden-und Freudenland » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:44 pm

Fauxia wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:I work for NationStates, not Trotterdam.

Just wait til you find out that Trott is Max Barry

Trotterdam wrote:#482, according to the spoiler thread:
"At this, his rubs his hands together and laughs maniacally."
Apologies if this has already been fixed long ago.


Maybe this is not a coincidence... :shock:

Maybe Max/Trotterdam is really rubbing his hands together and laughing maniacally at the moment.
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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:15 pm

Fauxia wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:No, why?

There's a global law firm called Kirkland & Ellis. Not every lawyer in the firm has to have the surname Kirkland or Ellis.

No, but I thought they were one of the lead lawyers, and would expect the name Bicker, Slaughter & Hyde would come from the top three's names, considering Bicker is one of them.

That's not how law firms work, particularly big ones. You can be a partner and still not be a named partner, which is a partner whose name is on the firm - generally the founding partners. Or really old firms don't change their names even long after their named partners may have died, because the name carries prestige and renown. To return to the example of Kirkland & Ellis, they both died in the 60s.

But anyway, the issue doesn't even reference the lawyer in question as being a partner, just a successful attorney. The issue says he's good at his job in a famous criminal defence firm. He could have defended celebrities or whatever to have made himself renowned. He doesn't have to be a named partner.
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The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom
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Issue 9 @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ On The Dinner Table

Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:57 pm

No replies in thread so I brought this question here:

Query: Issue 9 @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ On The Dinner Table

The first option reads: "The fact is, the @@ANIMAL@@ population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson ... "

Is this issue only given to nations with burgeoning wildlife population?

If so, can an alternate version be scripted to unlock this issue as a way to save endangered animal through subsidized commercial breeding?
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Postby Jutsa » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:51 pm

474.3 is available to nations without private industry even though the character apparently owns the restaurants.
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Postby Trotterdam » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:09 pm

Tweaking "owner" to "manager" would probably be enough.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:00 am

Good call, done.
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Postby Palos Heights » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:46 am

Issue 114: "Wipe out Graffiti"

Understanding that culture and weather are inversely related to one another, the entire premise of selecting the second option which promotes graffiti art in the name of culture seems odd that weather would go down as a result. Graffiti takes place outdoors on public structures and as such is an outdoors activity. As the explanation for culture and weather being inversely affected by one another due to "cultural events taking place indoors", wouldn't it stand to reason that there should at the very least be an in-house boost to weather for this issue seeing as by selecting option 2 you are promoting an outdoor activity?

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Postby Arridian Islands » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:15 pm

I think option 2 on issue 849 should also increase economic freedom. Drug legalization would give businesses more options on what they can and can't sell.
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Sovishustingion
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Postby Sovishustingion » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:54 pm

Just received 833 on this nation. I don't allow private industry. Yet eckie-cola, a private corporation with a CEO is mentioned.
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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:10 pm

Sovishustingion wrote:Just received 833 on this nation. I don't allow private industry. Yet eckie-cola, a private corporation with a CEO is mentioned.
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We've discussed this backstage, relevant to other issues. It's possible for the CEO of a corporation to comment on the situation in a communist country, even if they're not based there.

Even in the later days of the Soviet Union, they had a McDonalds. It would not have been unrealistic for the international CEO to have been interested in the situation there

Palos Heights wrote:Issue 114: "Wipe out Graffiti"

Understanding that culture and weather are inversely related to one another, the entire premise of selecting the second option which promotes graffiti art in the name of culture seems odd that weather would go down as a result. Graffiti takes place outdoors on public structures and as such is an outdoors activity. As the explanation for culture and weather being inversely affected by one another due to "cultural events taking place indoors", wouldn't it stand to reason that there should at the very least be an in-house boost to weather for this issue seeing as by selecting option 2 you are promoting an outdoor activity?

Thank you for your time!


Changes to weather are secondary, and not coded directly.

Also, your populace doing things outdoors wouldn't automatically improve weather. Doing things that are good for the environment improves the weather. Graffiti art is an outdoor activity that can be cultural, but it certainly isn't -- with spray paint and so on -- environmentally friendly.

I don't see any change to be made here.
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Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:56 am

Arridian Islands wrote:I think option 2 on issue 849 should also increase economic freedom. Drug legalization would give businesses more options on what they can and can't sell.


Very reasonable. Amended.

For future reference though, the place for discussing effects not being what you expected is here:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=424650
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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:12 am

The Free Joy State wrote:Also, your populace doing things outdoors wouldn't automatically improve weather.
Realistically, no, but as Palos Heights pointed out, that is how the Weather stat is currently coded (promoting culture or education decreases Weather, promoting sport increases Weather), because a "realistic" implementation of weather would depend too little on politics to be a meaningful stat in this game, so it's always been chalked up to an example of NS silliness.

I'll note that graffiti isn't invariably outdoors, because, for example, toilet stall graffiti is quite thoroughly indoors. Most of it is outdoors, however.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:41 am

Regardless, we're not going to change any issue based on what it does to the nation's weather stat.

Makes me think though, it might be quite amusing for a scientist to posit that the consistent movement of weather patterns in relation to various factors is proof of intelligent design.

Probably too meta though. :)
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Candensia
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Candensia » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:12 am

#992

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Twitcher recently purged millions of so-called ‘bots’ - programs masquerading as real people - from its platform. While many welcome the move, there are many politicians and right-wing Twitcher personalities who are claiming that the purge violates their freedom of speech.


Referencing “politicians” certainly seems strange for nations with the autocracy policy.
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:34 pm

Candensia wrote:Referencing “politicians” certainly seems strange for nations with the autocracy policy.
Most monarchies still have appointed ministers and mayors and so on.

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Postby Candensia » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:50 pm

Candensia wrote:#992

description

Twitcher recently purged millions of so-called ‘bots’ - programs masquerading as real people - from its platform. While many welcome the move, there are many politicians and right-wing Twitcher personalities who are claiming that the purge violates their freedom of speech.


Referencing “politicians” certainly seems strange for nations with the autocracy policy.


Furthermore,

#992.2

“Twitcher has a right to set whatever rules it wants on its website,” states tofucinno-sipping liberal Don Bond. “These bots exist solely to spread misinformation and stoke divisions among Candensians. Look what happened in the United Federation when bots spread fake news to help get that despot elected! I don’t want to see that happening here. Bots and other such software must be banned. Oh, and bots aren’t actual people, so it’s not like anyone’s free speech is really being infringed.”


These sentences also seem to imply that @@NAME@@ also elects its leaders democratically, and is also somewhat strange to see, given that Candensia possess the "Autocracy" Policy.
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New York Times Democracy

Postby New Ciencia » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:41 am

In Issue #1016 ("Breaking Upset"), the issue states "Just as you think you’ve seen it all, you find a man in his tidy-whities engulfed in flames outside his burning trailer." To my knowledge, that should be "tighty-whities" instead, unless I'm wrong, in which case it is not.
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Postby Luna Amore » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:56 am

New Ciencia wrote:In Issue #1016 ("Breaking Upset"), the issue states "Just as you think you’ve seen it all, you find a man in his tidy-whities engulfed in flames outside his burning trailer." To my knowledge, that should be "tighty-whities" instead, unless I'm wrong, in which case it is not.

Google says "did you mean tighty-whities" if you type in tidy, so I'm going go ahead and change it. And that's how I've always heard it. Fixed, thanks!
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Anollasia » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:53 pm

Bullet Time (issue 634)

Regular traffic congestion within Anollasia’s interstate highways has resulted in a flurry of petitions being sent to you demanding the development of a Maglev bullet train connecting the nation’s major cities. Apparently there was going to be a demonstration outside your front door as well, but the protesters got stuck in traffic.
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Moments before you are about to go home after a long day at work, an intruder intercepts you at your front door. His face is a deeper shade of red than the sunset outside your window. He yells at you: “Eight hours! Do you have any idea how it feels to sit in traffic for eight hours? Be quiet! How can I do good work when the commute takes the whole day? Listen, most other developed nations already have high-speed, high-efficiency railway systems, and not having one is not doing us any favors, economically or for our mental health. We Need Bullet Trains! Give us Bullet Trains!”

Some words there seem unnecessarily capitalized, i.e. "need", "bullet", and "trains".

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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:38 pm

Anollasia wrote:Bullet Time (issue 634)

Regular traffic congestion within Anollasia’s interstate highways has resulted in a flurry of petitions being sent to you demanding the development of a Maglev bullet train connecting the nation’s major cities. Apparently there was going to be a demonstration outside your front door as well, but the protesters got stuck in traffic.
The Debate
Moments before you are about to go home after a long day at work, an intruder intercepts you at your front door. His face is a deeper shade of red than the sunset outside your window. He yells at you: “Eight hours! Do you have any idea how it feels to sit in traffic for eight hours? Be quiet! How can I do good work when the commute takes the whole day? Listen, most other developed nations already have high-speed, high-efficiency railway systems, and not having one is not doing us any favors, economically or for our mental health. We Need Bullet Trains! Give us Bullet Trains!”

Some words there seem unnecessarily capitalized, i.e. "need", "bullet", and "trains".

The capitalisation comes across as a chanted slogan, which the demonstrators referred to in the opening description planned to use before they got stuck in traffic. This solo protestor is determined to use it.

I don't see any change needed.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Altmer Dominion » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:24 am

Question about 564: On my policy list, I have both 'no computers' and 'no internet'. However, option 2 states:

“I saw the whole thing,” says Elmo Demosthenes, who was too busy live-tweeting yesterday’s drama to actually help.


The speaker was distracted by an internet-based communication platform, which should not be easily available (or necessarily exist) for my citizens. Perhaps there should be an alternative line for low-tech nations.
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Sanctaria
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Postby Sanctaria » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:24 pm

Altmer Dominion wrote:Question about 564: On my policy list, I have both 'no computers' and 'no internet'. However, option 2 states:

“I saw the whole thing,” says Elmo Demosthenes, who was too busy live-tweeting yesterday’s drama to actually help.


The speaker was distracted by an internet-based communication platform, which should not be easily available (or necessarily exist) for my citizens. Perhaps there should be an alternative line for low-tech nations.

Switched out that line for something more applicable to everyone.
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