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Collatis
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Postby Collatis » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:09 pm

Issue No. 807: “Have War Crimes, Will Travel” contains a very minor typo in option 1:
“The Popular Freedom Fighters are a disgusting group!” yells @@RANDOMNAME@@, a grief-stricken refugee.”They killed my father, razed our village, and ruined my stamp collection! I say you invite their jerk of a leader into @@NAME@@, then you have your police arrest the monster! It’s the only way justice can be served.”

There ought to be a space in between the period after refugee and the third quotation mark. This will also fix said quotation mark, which is facing the wrong direction.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Ransium » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:14 pm

Collatis wrote:Issue No. 807: “Have War Crimes, Will Travel” contains a very minor typo in option 1:
“The Popular Freedom Fighters are a disgusting group!” yells @@RANDOMNAME@@, a grief-stricken refugee.”They killed my father, razed our village, and ruined my stamp collection! I say you invite their jerk of a leader into @@NAME@@, then you have your police arrest the monster! It’s the only way justice can be served.”

There ought to be a space in between the period after refugee and the third quotation mark. This will also fix said quotation mark, which is facing the wrong direction.


I've fixed this mistake. Other IEs there are two reports before this one on the previous page that I did not get the chance to fix and have to leave my computer now.

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Jutsa
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Capitalizt

Postby Jutsa » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:15 pm

Hey, 888 says this:

“Street “art” is just a nice way to say anti-social littering in my book,”

shouldn't it be ‘art’ instead of “art”?

er... well, 'art' instead of "art"?
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Postby Ransium » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:38 pm

Fauxia wrote:574.3 says "tax dollars," not "tax @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@"

That isn’t right, is it?!


I can’t believe this mistake has persisted as long as it has fixed.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:27 am

Fauxia wrote:574.3 says "tax dollars," not "tax @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@"

That isn’t right, is it?!


Discussed at the time, and the consensus was that the phrase "tax dollars" IRL is often used in English-speaking countries that don't have dollars as their currency.

Still, I got no problem with Ransium "fixing" it, even if I don't think it is necessary. It works equally well with or without the change.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:30 am

Reardenland wrote:The religious option (#1) should remove the atheism policy if it has been enacted.


Hmm. I'd say that the option needs to have an atheist version instead. Religion is all through the issue though - I'll just block the whole issue from atheist nations.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:33 am

Jutsa wrote:Hey, 888 says this:

“Street “art” is just a nice way to say anti-social littering in my book,”

shouldn't it be ‘art’ instead of “art”?

er... well, 'art' instead of "art"?


Excellent spot. Fixed.

Actually my fault. In editing I wrote

Quote marks around 'art' needed I think


missing the important word

Quote marks around 'art' not needed I think


to which caracasus must have shrugged, thought 'okay', and changed it to a double quote.

That's what passes for hijinks in editing. Ho ho ho.
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:52 pm

#213: Bus Drivers Say No To Double-Decked Deathtraps
Option 1
“Every morning I step into that thing I wonder when it’s finally going to fall to bits,”

You guys sure there's supposed to be absolutely no comma in that whole phrase except for the ending?
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:11 pm

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:#213: Bus Drivers Say No To Double-Decked Deathtraps
Option 1
“Every morning I step into that thing I wonder when it’s finally going to fall to bits,”

You guys sure there's supposed to be absolutely no comma in that whole phrase except for the ending?


I got no strong opinions on commas, save for silly serial commas. Looks okay to me though.
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Postby Pogaria » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:56 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:#213: Bus Drivers Say No To Double-Decked Deathtraps
Option 1
“Every morning I step into that thing I wonder when it’s finally going to fall to bits,”

You guys sure there's supposed to be absolutely no comma in that whole phrase except for the ending?


I got no strong opinions on commas, save for silly serial commas. Looks okay to me though.

It's fine either way. (And I'm usually picky about commas.)
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Fauxia » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:47 pm

I received issue 34.1 on Last Option Chronicle, despite my no drugs policy. I understand that the policy is state-based, but even so, shouldn’t I not get that issue? Especially considering smoking does count as drugs (it cancelled my no drugs)?
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:07 am

Fauxia wrote:I received issue 34.1 on Last Option Chronicle, despite my no drugs policy. I understand that the policy is state-based, but even so, shouldn’t I not get that issue? Especially considering smoking does count as drugs (it cancelled my no drugs)?


Interesting set of interactions that. You're right that restricted drug freedoms counts as a smoking ban for some purposes, but not for others. Have put in a manual fix.
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:45 am

Do 304.2 and 304.3 make sense for a nation that doesn’t allow same-sex marriage?
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:17 am

Fauxia wrote:Do 304.2 and 304.3 make sense for a nation that doesn’t allow same-sex marriage?


Good observation.

I've made it so that the issue can't come up at all if you've banned homosexuality. Marriage is a separate thing, as the issue never states that the gay couples are married, so no need for a validity check there.
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Postby Zwxekdoegi » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:06 am

I don't want to search through all 119(+) pages of this forum post to see if this was already answered, so I'm just going to ask here: is this the place to suggest adding a new option, or would that occur elsewhere?
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Postby Fauxia » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:53 pm

Zwxekdoegi wrote:I don't want to search through all 119(+) pages of this forum post to see if this was already answered, so I'm just going to ask here: is this the place to suggest adding a new option, or would that occur elsewhere?
No, they don’t go here, and the first post says so ;)
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Postby Zwxekdoegi » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:34 pm

Fauxia wrote:
Zwxekdoegi wrote:I don't want to search through all 119(+) pages of this forum post to see if this was already answered, so I'm just going to ask here: is this the place to suggest adding a new option, or would that occur elsewhere?
No, they don’t go here, and the first post says so ;)

I don’t remember seeing it there. Well, that’s embarrassing.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:53 am

Zwxekdoegi wrote:
Fauxia wrote:No, they don’t go here, and the first post says so ;)

I don’t remember seeing it there. Well, that’s embarrassing.


Well, that you looked at the first post at all puts you ahead of 90% of users who come to these threads. :)
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:44 pm

"the law forbids arson, murder, and low-quality cheese" (#899)

...so, this is an amusing effect line, except... it's actually possible to legalize arson.

(And several things that would be considered murder in most nations, although not murder per se.)

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Postby Jutsa » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:56 pm

An effect line with commas...

*the crowd gasps*
*lightning strikes*
*a lady in the background screams*
*a piano player with a handlebar moustache passes out and breaks a glass*
*the local reverends prepare an exorcism*
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:35 pm

Trotterdam wrote:"the law forbids arson, murder, and low-quality cheese" (#899)

...so, this is an amusing effect line, except... it's actually possible to legalize arson.

(And several things that would be considered murder in most nations, although not murder per se.)


Heh, that's true. And in fact, I've done a draft in the past which legalises murder.

Overall, I think the comedy is strong enough to override respect for nation narrative here. Will just have to be one of those little inconsistencies.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:35 pm

Jutsa wrote:An effect line with commas...

*the crowd gasps*
*lightning strikes*
*a lady in the background screams*
*a piano player with a handlebar moustache passes out and breaks a glass*
*the local reverends prepare an exorcism*


I got no problem with the commas. Except for the one before "and".
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Postby Techolandia » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:56 pm

Luna Amore wrote:
The Hundred Colors wrote:I just got issue 608, and the pronouns on one of the options look screwy.

“What happened to that child was a tragedy,” concedes animistic healer Nosipho Jefferson as she hangs amethyst pendants around the room to absorb the negative energies being generated, “but my prescribed treatments would have saved his life, if only they hadn’t been disrupted by the scepticism and disbelief from her biomedical doctors. I can show you the logical arguments that underpin my science, but ultimately, shouldn’t everyone have the freedom to choose their own health care provider?”

It looks like these are both supposed to refer to the same child, so it should be the same pronoun in both places.

Good catch. Fixed.

It seems from the issue's entry on the list of issues that this was changed so that both pronouns are male, but doesn't the lead describe the child as, "A 3-year-old girl, named @@RANDOMFEMALEFIRSTNAME@@"? Shouldn't the first one have been changed to female instead of the second one changed to male?
Also, in the first option, echinacea actually has antibotic properties and could therefore be considered by some to be valid medicine. Maybe echinacea tea should be replaced with homeopathic water?

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Postby Techolandia » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:37 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Jutsa wrote:An effect line with commas...

*the crowd gasps*
*lightning strikes*
*a lady in the background screams*
*a piano player with a handlebar moustache passes out and breaks a glass*
*the local reverends prepare an exorcism*


I got no problem with the commas. Except for the one before "and".
Here's an example of when the serial comma is important:
I want lettuce, vegetarian hot dogs, ketchup, peanut butter, and jelly sandwiches.
Without the serial comma, it would seem like I either forgot to put "and" in, or there used to be an item after "jelly sandwiches" that got removed.
The moral of the story: Serial commas are important.
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:#213: Bus Drivers Say No To Double-Decked Deathtraps
Option 1
“Every morning I step into that thing I wonder when it’s finally going to fall to bits,”

You guys sure there's supposed to be absolutely no comma in that whole phrase except for the ending?


I got no strong opinions on commas, save for silly serial commas. Looks okay to me though.
"Every morning I step into that thing" seems like an introductory phrase, so the sentence should be, "Every morning that ("that" added for clarity) I step into that thing, I wonder when it's finally going to fall to bits." Otherwise, the reader might think that it means, "Every morning, I step into that thing. I wonder when it's finally going to fall to bits."
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:35 am

It seems from the issue's entry on the list of issues that this was changed so that both pronouns are male, but doesn't the lead describe the child as, "A 3-year-old girl, named @@RANDOMFEMALEFIRSTNAME@@"? Shouldn't the first one have been changed to female instead of the second one changed to male?


Corrections to the spoiler thread should go to the spoiler thread. For this thread, please stick to errors you've seen in-game.

This issue is correct in-game.

Also, in the first option, echinacea actually has antibotic properties and could therefore be considered by some to be valid medicine. Maybe echinacea tea should be replaced with homeopathic water?


That's the whole point. Anyway, "considered by some to be a valid medicine" is also true of homeopathic water, cupping, ear candles and a good beating.

An evidence review is probably a more useful assessment tool:
http://www.cochrane.org/CD000530/ARI_ec ... ommon-cold
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3205674/

As the latter suggests, a lack of good trial designs has left things almost entirely anecdotal. In other words, its a great choice for the issue's narrative.
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