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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:50 pm

Anollasia wrote:Issue 720: "Cui Bono"

“I say unto to you that the answer is more welfare, not less!” offers unemployed youth Hermione Violetsglory, pushing a shopping trolley of ammonium nitrate and diesel oil to the checkout till. “If you increase welfare, then maybe the resentful disenfranchised minorities will feel more supported by society, and become less prone to radicalisation. What have you got to lose?”

Since 'unto' is an archaic way of saying 'to', the 'to' is redundant. So it should be "I say unto you".


Cheers, fixed.
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Postby Gnejs » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:52 pm

Drasnia wrote:
Gnejs wrote:That's pretty much what we do as well :)

And that's why your name is poop-colored :P

It's 'Classy Gold'.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:54 pm

Gnejs wrote:
Drasnia wrote:And that's why your name is poop-colored :P

It's 'Classy Gold'.


'Burnt Earwax'?
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Postby Drasnia » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:17 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Gnejs wrote:It's 'Classy Gold'.


'Burnt Earwax'?

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Issue #721

Postby Aibohphobia » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:51 am

This is an issue about punctuation, so I couldn't help myself.

Option 1:
ghostwriter @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, while
This comma is unnecessary. In the same manner, a comma wouldn't be necessary before "that": the action described in the second clause "continues" the one described in the first one (compare to the second option in this very same issue where no comma is used in a similar scenario).
but before ‘and,’
The comma here belongs outside the quotation marks, as it is part of the underlying clause, not the quotation. On another note, single quotes, at least in this particular issue, look really weird: the closing one seems to be a millimetre higher than the opening one and a tad bit darker in colour.

Additionally... What about the use of the Oxford comma in the issue itself?
The issue:
unreputable news sources, the @@NATIONALANIMAL@@ Gazette and the @@NAME@@ Times

Option 2:
can just as easily add ambiguous meaning, and just takes up space

There is no comma before the conjunction in the first example, but there is one in the second. I see how the latter could be viewed as an additional note to the main clause, but I would've personally not placed a comma there.

I am not mentioning "not correct" from Option 2, as it is probably intended. The last two options are obviously spelt the way they are on purpose as well.

Thank you.

P.S. One of the outcomes has the following line in it: "fixin' ta comma any way they wanna". Shouldn't "ta" be "tha"?
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Postby Drasnia » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:55 am

Aibohphobia wrote:This is an issue about punctuation, so I couldn't help myself.

Option 1:
ghostwriter @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, while
This comma is unnecessary. In the same manner, a comma wouldn't be necessary before "that": the action described in the second clause "continues" the one described in the first one (compare to the second option in this very same issue where no comma is used in a similar scenario).
but before ‘and,’
The comma here belongs outside the quotation marks, as it is part of the underlying clause, not the quotation. On another note, single quotes, at least in this particular issue, look really weird: the closing one seems to be a millimetre higher than the opening one and a tad bit darker in colour.

Additionally... What about the use of the Oxford comma in the issue itself?
The issue:
unreputable news sources, the @@NATIONALANIMAL@@ Gazette and the @@NAME@@ Times

Option 2:
can just as easily add ambiguous meaning, and just takes up space

There is no comma before the conjunction in the first example, but there is one in the second. I see how the latter could be viewed as an additional note to the main clause, but I would've personally not placed a comma there.

I am not mentioning "not correct" from Option 2, as it is probably intended. The last two options are obviously spelt the way they are on purpose as well.

Thank you.

P.S. One of the outcomes has the following line in it: "fixin' ta comma any way they wanna". Shouldn't "ta" be "tha"?

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:25 am

Any draft that says it is intentionally using a "double copula" immediately has most of the editors here turning around with a curious "Hmmmmmm...?"

Needless to say,* we'll not be editing the punctuation of this issue.


* I know.
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Postby Ransium » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:08 am

AHS said he wanted that issue to be the most frequently complained about on this thread :)

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Postby Fluffard » Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:51 pm

The first option of issue 523 needs a closing quote mark.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:53 am

Fluffard wrote:The first option of issue 523 needs a closing quote mark.


Good spot. Fixed.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:12 pm

Issue 191.3 wrote:...But I don’t think people should be forced to give blood; they just need incentive, that’s all...

Should be changed to "they just need an incentive"
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon May 01, 2017 2:33 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Issue 191.3 wrote:...But I don’t think people should be forced to give blood; they just need incentive, that’s all...

Should be changed to "they just need an incentive"


Either is fine. No change needed.
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Issue No 93 = Affirmative Action

Postby Nyyx » Thu May 04, 2017 4:59 pm

If you chose to make college free for all, option #3, Book Publishing goes down? I would assume it would go up since more people would be going to college?

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu May 04, 2017 5:11 pm

Nyyx wrote:If you chose to make college free for all, option #3, Book Publishing goes down? I would assume it would go up since more people would be going to college?


It went down by a miniscule amount as a secondary effect from other stat changes. No book publishing change was coded into the issue. However, I'm not entirely keen on how some of those game engine decisions are parsed, and I think some of them are illogical, which has led to this unusual effect. I'll raise it with technical.
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Postby Ransium » Thu May 04, 2017 7:42 pm

Also, in the future, questions on stats go here:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=370351

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Postby Trackeendy » Sat May 06, 2017 1:54 pm

Issue 708, on the third option it starts off saying “There’s no fighting in here, this a war room!”.
I assume it's supposed to say this is a war room.
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Postby Ransium » Sat May 06, 2017 2:17 pm

Trackeendy wrote:Issue 708, on the third option it starts off saying “There’s no fighting in here, this a war room!”.
I assume it's supposed to say this is a war room.


Huh, I can't believe you the first one pointing this out. My bad. Good spot, I'll get it fixed.

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Postby Drasnia » Sat May 06, 2017 2:53 pm

Ransium wrote:
Trackeendy wrote:Issue 708, on the third option it starts off saying “There’s no fighting in here, this a war room!”.
I assume it's supposed to say this is a war room.


Huh, I can't believe you're the first one pointing this out. My bad. Good spot, I'll get it fixed.
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Postby Balkothia » Sun May 07, 2017 8:40 pm

I'm not sure why the national death rate goes down after I legalized cannibalism.

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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon May 08, 2017 1:04 am

If you're going to report an error, be more specific. List the name or number of the issue, the option you chose, the nation you chose it with, and the date you made that choice. Also, if the problem is an unexpected effect, use the unexpected effects thread here:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=370351
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Postby Wobbegong » Mon May 08, 2017 4:58 am

Issue 622: Easter Egg: A Holiday Masquerade

Option 5: Your Defense Minister marches into the room in full parade attire, shouting jovially. “United We Can Achieve It! The new film Captain Wobbegong has seen recruitment numbers triple overnight! Do your part - Nick Patrick needs YOU! A nice shield, a big flag as a cape, you’ll be a superhero in no time! Well, minus the abs.”

I would understand if the Defense Minister told my leader: "Do your part, Nick Patrick!"
Or if they said: "Do your part, Wobbegong needs you!"

I can see if the Defense Minister was saying something like a motto to recruits, that's what the original sentence seems to be, but since the Defense Minister is talking to the leader, and telling the leader to dress up as a superhero, I don't understand.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon May 08, 2017 5:47 am

I think it's meant to be a reference to "Uncle Sam Needs You!", but I agree it's a bit incoherent with all the macroing.

I say "eh" to it. The meaning of the option is apparent, even if it's not phrased exactly how you or I might have edited it to.
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Postby Norcel » Mon May 08, 2017 5:46 pm

On issue 635, "Hey Kid, Have a Cigar", there is a word left out in option 2. It says, "Market restrictions are un-@@DEMONYM@@. We should be able sell our product," when it should say "be able to sell".

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed May 10, 2017 1:04 am

Norcel wrote:On issue 635, "Hey Kid, Have a Cigar", there is a word left out in option 2. It says, "Market restrictions are un-@@DEMONYM@@. We should be able sell our product," when it should say "be able to sell".


Nice spot. Fixed.
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed May 10, 2017 2:01 pm

#724 option:
take drug dealers stuff
Missing an apostrophe after "dealers'".

#728 effect line:
the deceased are buried mostly to hide them from state-sancrtioned corpse-collectors
Threre's a superfluours letterr therer.

By the way, if you really wanted to avoid corpse collectors, wouldn't cremation work better?
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