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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:01 am

The Free Joy State wrote:Did it?

I'll raise the point backstage, and see what the rest of the team think.

Once again, thank you for your eagle-eyes, and for alerting us to a potential issue. :)
I found another example:

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=harthil
Following new legislation in Harthil, Harthilianems are unrivalled in obstacle courses.
hard-nosed, hard-working, humorless population of 601 million Harthilianie
The frighteningly efficient Harthilianem economy,
That's definitely the wrong demonym.

EDIT: Oh wow, this one's even more obvious.
Following new legislation in Dharman, DharmanAdjs are unrivalled in obstacle courses.
hard-nosed, hard-working, democratic, humorless, devout population of 4.102 billion DharmanPlu
The frighteningly efficient DharmanAdj economy
The singular noun isn't visible on the page but I checked on the API, it's DharmanNoun.
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Postby John A Macdonald » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:26 pm

Issue 107 option 2

It says: "That's a disgraceful way to think!" says equal rights activist, @@RANDOMNAME@@. "So the people who need the most help shouldn't get any? I propose that the government subsidises the production of all drugs so everyone can benefit from them, rich or not! That way the money-hungry corporations won't profit from the suffering of the masses. Of course there will be the matter of a to fund it - but what's that when lives will be saved?"

Key bits being: "the government subsidises the production of all drugs" and "small tax rise"

But if you select that option it results in a massive hit to the economy and a big decrease in business subsidisation which makes no sense based on the wording of the option. Since it very clearly says the government will subsidise the industry. The effects should be an increase in most economic categories not a decrease.

Going off the talking point "pharmacies close down as medicinal drugs are sold freely by the government," the option should probably say something like "We should cut out the middle man and sell the pharmaceutical agents ourselves".

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:15 pm

Yep, you're right Trotterdam. Wrong code there, now fixed.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:16 pm

Aibohphobia wrote:Option 3:
sparking as a mountain stream
"sparkling"?


Good one. Edited.
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Postby Aclion » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:07 pm

I don't know if this is an error per say but #547 option three is totally ambiguous.
“Perhaps there could be a compromise?” queries your Minister of Environment, Leela Parkarvarkar, who has been smelling like grass lately. “Ending zoos would harm the tourism industry, and we can’t deny that these programs help endangered species. Why don’t we set a limit on what animals they take? Specifically the endangered ones? I’m sure that we can also force tougher standards to ensure OceanWorld treats the animals humanely as well.”

I can't tell if he's suggesting that zoos be prevented from taking endangered animals for they be limited to taking endangered animals. It seem silly to limit them to endangered ones but he also says that " these programs help endangered species."

The problem could be solved by replacing "Specifically the endangered ones?" with "Specifically limiting the endangered ones?" or "Specifically limiting them to the endangered ones?". Whichever one is correct.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:19 pm

Why on Earth does 260.1 decrease tourism? That's not fair! I want my tourists back!
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Postby A Humanist Prognostication » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:26 pm

Redacted for parent in wrong thread.
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Postby Greater Tern » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:32 pm

Not sure if this is intentional, but for issue #709 (Armed and Legging It), the assistant's gender doesn't stay consistent -- in the description they start off as a 'he', but at the end they're described as a 'she'.

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Postby Drasnia » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:35 pm

Australian Republic wrote:Why on Earth does 260.1 decrease tourism? That's not fair! I want my tourists back!

How many times do you have to be told this is the correct thread?
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Postby Aclion » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:54 am

Does 641 Dirty Little Minds not have any environmental validity? I think Aclion is clean enough(top 8%) to not worry about toxic waste poisoning children.
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Postby A Humanist Prognostication » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:50 am

#697

...I propose you read off a list of factual bullet points provided by mine and other departments. ...


"by my, and other, departments" Or, "by my department, and others" Or, "by all the government departments"
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Postby Ransium » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:28 pm

A Humanist Prognostication wrote:#697

...I propose you read off a list of factual bullet points provided by mine and other departments. ...


"by my, and other, departments" Or, "by my department, and others" Or, "by all the government departments"


Whoops... just saw this. I'll go with door #1.

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Postby New Sammeraat » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:44 pm

In #492, "The Artwork in the Attic," the issue says: After the death of the wealthy Maxtopian immigrant Emmeline @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, a large stash of paintings, many of which are believed to have been produced by the most notable artists in the history of Maxtopia, was found in her attic. With no will to reference, it is up to the government to decide what should be done with the discoveries.

There's no evidence that Emmeline bought the artwork--only that she had physical possession of it. Could a line please be included to state that she owned it free and clear (i.e., the artwork was not stolen by her or, to the best of her knowledge, anyone else)? To my way of thinking, there's a big difference between "Fellow Maxtopians sold their artwork to Emmeline" and "Emmeline is a former thief" and/or "Emmeline knowingly bought the artwork from smugglers/on the black market/etc." (Granted, the last two could provoke new issues.)

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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:49 am

Issue 83: I undsrstand satire, but a monrail is still a dumb way to transport people over long distances. It's intended for short disrande, extreme capadity service
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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:24 am

Just realised based on above posts that this is the wrong thread.
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Postby UCE Watchdog of the Puppets » Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:53 am

Anyone see issue 702 option 2?
“By allowing Humanocentrism’s absurd little book into hotels, you promote one of mankind’s great evils.” intones Ms. Hawkins, shredding the pages of Humanocentrism’s writings lengthwise to line her cat’s litter-tray. “You, in effect, permit Imperials Imperial Colonists to silence their brains, to be content with not understanding natural phenomena. You allow the uninformed to call everything, from the oxygen we breathe to gravity, a ‘miracle’. Galactic Empress Julian Agricola, take the small first step to protecting our children from superstition by outlawing this insidious practice.”


The demonym plural is "Imperial Colonists" not "Imperials".
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:30 pm

UCE Watchdog of the Puppets wrote:Anyone see issue 702 option 2?
“By allowing Humanocentrism’s absurd little book into hotels, you promote one of mankind’s great evils.” intones Ms. Hawkins, shredding the pages of Humanocentrism’s writings lengthwise to line her cat’s litter-tray. “You, in effect, permit Imperials Imperial Colonists to silence their brains, to be content with not understanding natural phenomena. You allow the uninformed to call everything, from the oxygen we breathe to gravity, a ‘miracle’. Galactic Empress Julian Agricola, take the small first step to protecting our children from superstition by outlawing this insidious practice.”


The demonym plural is "Imperial Colonists" not "Imperials".


Good spot. It's a common error with newer editors, and the rest of us should have spotted it in the peer review process. We'll keep an eye out for this specific error more in future.

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Postby Xentherida » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:44 pm

Two issues with Issue 670, "A Wolf in Refugees' Clothing"

Firstly, title. "A Wolf In Refugees’ Clothing".

"A Wolf" is singular, yet "Refugees' " is plural, which doesn't quite make sense. May I suggest "A Wolf in Refugee's Clothing" or "Wolves in Refugees' Clothing"?

Next, the issue description.

Original:
"The Issue

After it became clear that a recent mass shooting in Maxtopia was an act of terror by a Lilliputian Ultra-Violetist who entered Maxtopia by claiming refugee status from the ongoing Lilliputian civil-war, Xentheridans are demanding you find a way to keep terrorists out of Xentherida."

Suggested replacement:

"After it became clear that a recent mass shooting in Maxtopia was an act of terror by a Lilliputian Ultra-Violetist who entered Maxtopia by claiming refugee status from the ongoing Lilliputian Civil War, Xentheridans are demanding you find a way to keep terrorists out of Xentherida."
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Postby Ransium » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:48 pm

Xentherida wrote:Two issues with Issue 670, "A Wolf in Refugees' Clothing"

Firstly, title. "A Wolf In Refugees’ Clothing".

"A Wolf" is singular, yet "Refugees' " is plural, which doesn't quite make sense. May I suggest "A Wolf in Refugee's Clothing" or "Wolves in Refugees' Clothing"?

Next, the issue description.

Original:
"The Issue

After it became clear that a recent mass shooting in Maxtopia was an act of terror by a Lilliputian Ultra-Violetist who entered Maxtopia by claiming refugee status from the ongoing Lilliputian civil-war, Xentheridans are demanding you find a way to keep terrorists out of Xentherida."

Suggested replacement:

"After it became clear that a recent mass shooting in Maxtopia was an act of terror by a Lilliputian Ultra-Violetist who entered Maxtopia by claiming refugee status from the ongoing Lilliputian Civil War, Xentheridans are demanding you find a way to keep terrorists out of Xentherida."


Yeah the thing in the title is a good point I'm surprised nobody has caught sooner. The latter seems like a matter of preference, but I see your point.

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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:51 pm

I would have gone with "civil war", with neither capitals nor a hyphen.

Capital "Civil War"s are more something for history books than current events.

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Postby Ransium » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:57 pm

Jeez and I thought you'd never met a hyphen you didn't like! :p

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Postby Schiltzberg » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:04 pm

Issue #436, Option #1:

“Have you no decency whatsoever?” thunders Billy McKinnon, the Violetist demiarchwizard of New Schiltzbierg, before anyone else can say a word. “Even if gambling WEREN’T a mortal sin, the democratic process will fail under such a mighty burden! You must outlaw gambling on elections. Card games are one thing, but this is gambling with the very future of Schiltzberg! Oh, and we should crack down on those sinful casinos while we’re at it.”

In this case, the word "gambling" is singular, so "weren't" should be "wasn't."
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Postby Drasnia » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:11 pm

Schiltzberg wrote:
Issue #436, Option #1:

“Have you no decency whatsoever?” thunders Billy McKinnon, the Violetist demiarchwizard of New Schiltzbierg, before anyone else can say a word. “Even if gambling WEREN’T a mortal sin, the democratic process will fail under such a mighty burden! You must outlaw gambling on elections. Card games are one thing, but this is gambling with the very future of Schiltzberg! Oh, and we should crack down on those sinful casinos while we’re at it.”

In this case, the word "gambling" is singular, so "weren't" should be "wasn't."

No, actually. It's subjunctive tense where there is no "was." It's always "were" in subjunctive.
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Postby Vegaslovakia » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:03 pm

I don't know if this is the right place, but me and my puppet keep on getting the same issues, with deviations from this pattern rare. How can I get new issues more frequently?
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Postby Dogon » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:12 am

I'm confused as to why I'm getting issue 711 (Patently Obvious). This nation is heavily anti-patent, and as far as I know, we have no patent system. Yet the issue implies that we do, and even worse, there's no anti-patent option..
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