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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:41 pm

Cerberion wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:Den Haag? :P


Perhaps not a capital city, but there are several cities starting with the.

Here are some US instances:
The city- California
The Rocks - Kentucky
The Forks - Maine
The X - Massachusetts
The Holy City - Oklahoma

So, yeah, the in a city name is entirely viable.

OK, but those the's are capitalized, so logically, if the capital's name is 'The Big Damn Capital City', then the paper could be referred to as the The Big Damn Capital City Naysayer.The first the used to specify which paper and the second the part of the capital's name.


...this is a pretty ridiculous discussion when you stop to consider it.
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Postby Cerberion » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:34 pm

Luna Amore wrote:
Cerberion wrote:
Perhaps not a capital city, but there are several cities starting with the.

Here are some US instances:
The city- California
The Rocks - Kentucky
The Forks - Maine
The X - Massachusetts
The Holy City - Oklahoma

So, yeah, the in a city name is entirely viable.

OK, but those the's are capitalized, so logically, if the capital's name is 'The Big Damn Capital City', then the paper could be referred to as the The Big Damn Capital City Naysayer.The first the used to specify which paper and the second the part of the capital's name.


...this is a pretty ridiculous discussion when you stop to consider it.


And easily resolved as per my suggestions, but shrug. It doesn't reflect poorly on me if it reads badly.

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Ex-Nation

Postby HotRodia » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:21 pm

I was ponderously reviewing issues, as is my wont, and happened to stumble upon a typographical error.

The potential error is highlighted in red.

The Empire Strikes First

The Issue

Reports indicate that several neighbouring nations are engaged in major weapons programs in contravention of international law and treaty, focusing public discourse on HotRodia's foreign policy - specifically, its position on preemptive strikes.
The Debate

"We need to hit back hard at these terrorist scumbags!" roars General Mohammed Dubois, his face turning purple. "I say that we treat any illegal weapons program by these nations as an act of war! Granted, a preemptive strike will likely cause a war, but if these foreigners won't abide by international agreement, they have to be kept in line, for the good of our Modified Acceleration Engine."


Diplomatic bureaucrat Anne-Marie Bronte remarks calmly, "There's no need to go off half-cocked. It would be much better if we used some international body - the World Assembly, say, or a Texas tribunal - to investigate these rumours objectively for us. That way we have the international community on our side, and no one can accuse us of playing judge and jury. It will be well worth the extra diplomatic costs and bureaucratic red tape."


"If these countries don't respect international law, why would they respect international agencies?" wonders political analyst Hope Hamilton. "Our neighbours are acquiring these weapons for a reason - because no one wants to pick a fight with a country that has weapons of mass destruction. The solution is simple - if we have WMDs of our own, they won't dare to strike at us. It may seen mad, but in this crazy world, it's the sanest thing we could do."


Noted pacifist and tambourine artist Sarah Schultz replies, "As usual our nation's proud leaders can only see violent solutions to our problems abroad. Wouldn't it be refreshing if they focused on achieving peace through communication and accommodation, rather than force of arms? You may call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one – wait, sorry, I've heard that somewhere before."

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Spell check

Postby Jagalonia » Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:08 pm

Issue 312, option 3.

3."If these countries don't respect international law, why would they respect international agencies?" wonders political analyst Agnes Dodinas. "Our neighbours are acquiring these weapons for a reason - because no one wants to pick a fight with a country that has weapons of mass destruction. The solution is simple - if we have WMDs of our own, they won't dare to strike at us. It may seen mad, but in this crazy world, it's the sanest thing we could do."


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Postby Licentiapacisterra » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:35 am

Sophie Hamilton, head of Licentiapacisterra's chapter of Alcoholics Anonymous, says that drunk drivers need help. "Alcoholism is a nasty thing, a disease. The government has to help these poor souls to avoid the temptations of liquor, and wine, and beer, and hard cider, and brandy, and?" His eyes get a glazed far off look, "Where was I? Oh right, we have to help these people, not imprison them."


I know you don't use gender-specific names, but maybe replace "His eyes" with "Their eyes", so that it makes a little more sense.
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Postby The Oceanic Empire » Sun May 06, 2012 9:08 am

Licentiapacisterra wrote:
Sophie Hamilton, head of Licentiapacisterra's chapter of Alcoholics Anonymous, says that drunk drivers need help. "Alcoholism is a nasty thing, a disease. The government has to help these poor souls to avoid the temptations of liquor, and wine, and beer, and hard cider, and brandy, and?" His eyes get a glazed far off look, "Where was I? Oh right, we have to help these people, not imprison them."


I know you don't use gender-specific names, but maybe replace "His eyes" with "Their eyes", so that it makes a little more sense.

On the subject of gender bias in issues, 'Software Giant Stomps on Competition' refers to a male in each option.

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Postby Land filled with People » Tue May 08, 2012 12:42 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Yahadreas wrote:Presumably Sophie is my sister?

That's a problem you need to raise with your weird parents, not us. :p

Actually, the random names used in issues weren't gender specific.


So should they be gender specific now? Because in the issue I received at today's major it wasn't fixed.

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Postby Welsh Cowboy » Fri May 11, 2012 2:25 pm

The following is from the issue, The Empire Strikes First. The mistake has been bolded. I believe it should read "seem" or maybe "be seen."

Reports indicate that several neighbouring nations are engaged in major weapons programs in contravention of international law and treaty, focusing public discourse on Welsh Cowboy's foreign policy - specifically, its position on preemptive strikes.

The Debate

"We need to hit back hard at these terrorist scumbags!" roars General Tim Jefferson, his face turning purple. "I say that we treat any illegal weapons program by these nations as an act of war! Granted, a preemptive strike will likely cause a war, but if these foreigners won't abide by international agreement, they have to be kept in line, for the good of our NDP-Governed State."


Diplomatic bureaucrat John Dodinas remarks calmly, "There's no need to go off half-cocked. It would be much better if we used some international body - the World Assembly, say, or a The Humanitarian League tribunal - to investigate these rumours objectively for us. That way we have the international community on our side, and no one can accuse us of playing judge and jury. It will be well worth the extra diplomatic costs and bureaucratic red tape."


"If these countries don't respect international law, why would they respect international agencies?" wonders political analyst Colin Frederickson. "Our neighbours are acquiring these weapons for a reason - because no one wants to pick a fight with a country that has weapons of mass destruction. The solution is simple - if we have WMDs of our own, they won't dare to strike at us. It may seen mad, but in this crazy world, it's the sanest thing we could do."


Noted pacifist and tambourine artist Ella Yeats replies, "As usual our nation's proud leaders can only see violent solutions to our problems abroad. Wouldn't it be refreshing if they focused on achieving peace through communication and accommodation, rather than force of arms? You may call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one – wait, sorry, I've heard that somewhere before."
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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Fri May 11, 2012 2:35 pm

WC, that mistake has already been reported. Twice on this page in fact.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Welsh Cowboy » Fri May 11, 2012 3:43 pm

Luna Amore wrote:WC, that mistake has already been reported. Twice on this page in fact.


I'm very sorry. I should have skimmed through more of the thread. My bad.
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Of the Free Socialist Territories
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Ex-Nation

Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat May 12, 2012 8:19 am

Issue #222, 'Terrorists Strike City Centre'

issue 222 wrote:"They simply crossed the line!" shouts General Maria Sparkle. "Far too long have we tolerated these terrorist threats, it's time that they realise they can't mess with us. Send the order to prepare an invasion, and we will show them who is boss! Our brave soldiers are prepared to die for their country, all we need is your signature and a lot of money. But what is the cost of freedom and safety for Of the Free Socialist Territories' peoples?"


I think it should be "For far too long..."
Also, "We'll" sounds better than "We will", in my humble opinion. Hope this is of help.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sat May 12, 2012 8:42 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:I think it should be "For far too long..."
Also, "We'll" sounds better than "We will", in my humble opinion. Hope this is of help.

Affectations of grammar and speech are part of the issue design, not errors. I think they look fine.

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Ex-Nation

Postby Ranbo » Sat May 12, 2012 10:34 am

Option 1 of 'Buy a Better Baby':

1.) "Embryo selection isn't really genetic engineering in the technical sense," explains Dr. Tim Cheswick, owner of the Babies-2-Go Clinic. "It's more like being able to have a dozen abortions per month until you get the foetus you desire. I can't really see what's wrong with parents who can afford it being able to eliminate foetuses with undesirable genetic traits - like stupidity."


I'm pretty sure it's spelled fetus/fetuses.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Licentiapacisterra » Sat May 12, 2012 10:43 am

Ranbo wrote:Option 1 of 'Buy a Better Baby':

1.) "Embryo selection isn't really genetic engineering in the technical sense," explains Dr. Tim Cheswick, owner of the Babies-2-Go Clinic. "It's more like being able to have a dozen abortions per month until you get the foetus you desire. I can't really see what's wrong with parents who can afford it being able to eliminate foetuses with undesirable genetic traits - like stupidity."


I'm pretty sure it's spelled fetus/fetuses.


As far as I know, you can spell it either way, like colour or color
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Ballotonia » Sat May 12, 2012 12:24 pm

Fetus is American English.
Foetus is British English.

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Postby Ranbo » Sat May 12, 2012 12:35 pm

Ballotonia wrote:Fetus is American English.
Foetus is British English.

Ballotonia

As an American, I have remained ignorant of this until now.
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Corporate Police State

Postby Cerberion » Sun May 20, 2012 9:25 pm

http://www.nationstates.net/page=show_d ... ilemma=313

2. "I can't believe you are still listening to these spineless liberals!" yells Field Marshal Sue-Ann Licorish. "You let these crazy zealots have their way and we'll find ourselves open to all sorts threats. Bigtopia would have a field day. Let's remind these wackos who's in charge."


Got a missing "of" there.

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Mon May 21, 2012 9:53 am

Issue #294, Option #3 - Ghost Riders on the Sly:


Issue #294, Option #3 wrote:"Look, this is how things have always worked," Klaus Hendrikson, the CEO of Cheesemongers Unlimited, Ltd. "Representatives' time is both finite and valuable. Do you have any idea how many bills there'd be if each one could only have one aim? Legislation would come to a stand-still! Yes, it can be prone to corruption, but find me a government that's corruption free and I'll eat my shoe!''


There's a complete absence of a verb, which is necessary, in the bold, underlined bit, which disrupts the issue.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Greenspoint » Tue May 22, 2012 2:33 pm

Ballotonia wrote:
Make it "whom", not "that" ;)

Ballotonia


I may be coming late to the party, but I didn't see this addressed in any later posts. It would be "Who", not "whom". Who is subjective, whom is objective, and it's clearly the subject of the sentence being referred to.
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(very)Minor Grammar Error

Postby Kalibarr » Wed May 23, 2012 4:25 pm

To follow one of the recommendations above, simply click on the link. The Kalibarr government will bring in the new law overnight.


This appears at the very bottom of issues*. It sounds a little bit weird, and should probably read "the government of @@NAME@@" instead of "@@NAME@@ government"



Edit: *at least I assume it appears on all the issues, it might just be the one I have(#189 Dangerously Cheesy)
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Strange Trend Results

Postby Fabrim » Sat May 26, 2012 4:19 pm

So, two issues I got recently have had weird results. Neither of these makes sense to me.

The first is, in the issue where people talk about killing whatever your national animal is, I made mine a protected species instead of allowing people to just shoot them or make them into burgers. This resulted it my economy dropping from 42 to 28, a whole twelve points. For reference, abolishing tariffs in my nation raised that by only four points. What does outlawing the killing of my national animal have to do with economics, anyway?

Second, got that issue where some people try to make gun ownership mandatory. I decided to pass concealed carry laws, which I would assume would raise civil rights, since it's allowing people to bear arms and all that. However, instead, my nation's political freedoms dropped a point. Somehow, by allowing people to do something, I lost a point in a completely unrelated category. It just doesn't make any sense. It didn't even affect civil rights either.

Anyway, yeah. Those are the two major issues I've found so far. Neither of these really make sense, so I'm assuming they're not supposed to work this way. Another strange thing was that allowing companies to sponsor sports teams didn't raise economy at all, but that's comparatively minor.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Sat May 26, 2012 10:36 pm

Issue 313, "Conscientious Objectors Want You... To Let Them Abstain"

3. "We hardly need to be so black and white about it," interrupts Mohammed Hamilton, your Churchmaster General. "These people don't want to kill? It's against their 'beliefs'? So we won't make them. There are plenty of jobs in the military that don't involve pulling a trigger. If they still object, well, let's just say there's no shortage of prison cells."
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat May 26, 2012 11:19 pm

Issue #022 Nazi Sympathizers Plan Rally...

When I allow a Nazi rally because my nation is a Nazi dictatorship, it says that freedom of speech is held dear. Although this is useful to our propaganda ministry, I am not sure it is a great idea to have an issue that equates Nazism with freedom of speech. The issue only makes sense for nations in which Nazism is socially unacceptable. There are many players on NS that have authoritarian nations in which a Nazi rally would be allowed for reasons that have nothing to do with freedom of speech.

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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Sun May 27, 2012 1:04 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:Issue #022 Nazi Sympathizers Plan Rally...

When I allow a Nazi rally because my nation is a Nazi dictatorship, it says that freedom of speech is held dear. Although this is useful to our propaganda ministry, I am not sure it is a great idea to have an issue that equates Nazism with freedom of speech. The issue only makes sense for nations in which Nazism is socially unacceptable. There are many players on NS that have authoritarian nations in which a Nazi rally would be allowed for reasons that have nothing to do with freedom of speech.

I have the same problem with my authoritarian puppets. Just pretend it says something other than nazism or dismiss it. We can't make issues fit every nation perfectly. Sorry.

Plus that's a Barry issue. Can't change those.
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