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Mathuvan Union
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Ex-Nation

Postby Mathuvan Union » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:59 pm

1099: New Satellite Blues

New Satellite Blues

The Issue

The Mathuvan Union Aeronautics and Space Administration (MUASA) is currently reviewing proposals for a new flagship satellite project. Debates about the merits of each plan have become so intense that a recent fight resulted in thousands of Kronenmünzes in damage to pocket protectors, calculators, and glasses. Agency heads have therefore deferred to you to decide which project should be chosen



I’m not entirely sure if the Kronenmünzes is intended or just a glitch, because my currency currently has a ‘ü’ in it.
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The Free Joy State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:10 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:1099: New Satellite Blues

New Satellite Blues

The Issue

The Mathuvan Union Aeronautics and Space Administration (MUASA) is currently reviewing proposals for a new flagship satellite project. Debates about the merits of each plan have become so intense that a recent fight resulted in thousands of Kronenmünzes in damage to pocket protectors, calculators, and glasses. Agency heads have therefore deferred to you to decide which project should be chosen



I’m not entirely sure if the Kronenmünzes is intended or just a glitch, because my currency currently has a ‘ü’ in it.

It parses correctly backstage. There's nothing wrong with the code we've input. My suggestion is to try Technical. It's possibly something about the way the umlaut is parsing gameside, but that would require an admin to look at, not an editor.
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Mathuvan Union
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Ex-Nation

Postby Mathuvan Union » Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:47 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:1099: New Satellite Blues

New Satellite Blues

The Issue

The Mathuvan Union Aeronautics and Space Administration (MUASA) is currently reviewing proposals for a new flagship satellite project. Debates about the merits of each plan have become so intense that a recent fight resulted in thousands of Kronenmünzes in damage to pocket protectors, calculators, and glasses. Agency heads have therefore deferred to you to decide which project should be chosen



I’m not entirely sure if the Kronenmünzes is intended or just a glitch, because my currency currently has a ‘ü’ in it.

It parses correctly backstage. There's nothing wrong with the code we've input. My suggestion is to try Technical. It's possibly something about the way the umlaut is parsing gameside, but that would require an admin to look at, not an editor.

I was wondering wether to do that or not.
Thanks!
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Budget Issues
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Founded: Jun 02, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Budget Issues » Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:51 am

Blank options

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Authoritaria-Imperia
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Founded: Nov 06, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:06 pm

#94 could use some em dashes (in place of the highlighted hyphens) in the first option — the current hyphens look really strange, especially since there's an actual hyphen in close proximity.
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Pogaria
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Postby Pogaria » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:20 pm

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:#94 could use some em dashes (in place of the highlighted hyphens) in the first option — the current hyphens look really strange, especially since there's an actual hyphen in close proximity.
This junk is a waste of time in that I have to delete it and a waste of my money in that I have to buy anti-spam programs-which hardly work anyway. People get swindled by this stuff - it should be a crime, just like regular fraud.

Agreed. I adjusted the punctuation a bit.
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The Imperial Franks
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Founded: Oct 27, 2019
Iron Fist Consumerists

Add a new option

Postby The Imperial Franks » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:17 pm

There are many issues about banning cars/the consequences of banning cars but so far I’ve only seen the options that make bikes replacement for cars for environmental reasons. I think it would be a fun option to replace cars with horses and as feudalism is already a policy that can be chosen, I don’t see why horses can’t be chosen as the nations transport.

The problem is I have no idea what are the names/number for the issues that involve banning cars/consequences of banning cars so I was hoping that someone who knows these issues could add this option.

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Authoritaria-Imperia
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:07 pm

Pogaria wrote:Agreed. I adjusted the punctuation a bit.
Thank you! :)
The Imperial Franks wrote:There are many issues about banning cars/the consequences of banning cars but so far I’ve only seen the options that make bikes replacement for cars for environmental reasons. I think it would be a fun option to replace cars with horses and as feudalism is already a policy that can be chosen, I don’t see why horses can’t be chosen as the nations transport.

The problem is I have no idea what are the names/number for the issues that involve banning cars/consequences of banning cars so I was hoping that someone who knows these issues could add this option.
You may want to read the original post — for a change like this that is objective and grammar-related, you may be looking for the Writers' Block, or if you've got a comprehensive idea for specific Issues to change and what changes to make, then maybe a new thread. However, the bar for editing existing Issues in that way is very high, and a simple desire for some more varied options isn't enough. The best way to introduce what you're thinking of is to write your own Issue from scratch! :)
(By the way, in the future, you can look up policy information at Trotterdam's unofficial website here. Not really the best course of action for this particular thing you want to do, but it's still a handy resource.)
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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:22 am

The Imperial Franks wrote:There are many issues about banning cars/the consequences of banning cars but so far I’ve only seen the options that make bikes replacement for cars for environmental reasons. I think it would be a fun option to replace cars with horses and as feudalism is already a policy that can be chosen, I don’t see why horses can’t be chosen as the nations transport.
]I doubt it's the government's place to decide what to "replace cars with", unless you're extremely authoritarian. In general, people will use what they find to be the most-convenient legal option.

For most people, bicycles are easier to use than horses, hence if cars are banned but bicycles are not, most people won't want to bother with the hassle of training and feeding horses.

#1368 option 3 does incidentally feature someone who uses an ox cart :) (Which makes those scissors pretty disturbing, when you think about it.)

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Whatermelons Second Country
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Ex-Nation

Postby Whatermelons Second Country » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:06 am

I received issue 113, which states that my population is dim by comparison. However, my nation is top 29% for Intelligence. Is this a bug?

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Noahs Second Country
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Founded: Aug 31, 2016
Anarchy

Postby Noahs Second Country » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:55 pm

Whatermelons Second Country wrote:I received issue 113, which states that my population is dim by comparison. However, my nation is top 29% for Intelligence. Is this a bug?

Being in the top third of nations does not mean your nation is extremely bright, so while they aren't lacking intelligence your population definitely doesn't stand out. Dim in this case could simply be describing that absence of "brightness" among your populace.
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Authoritaria-Imperia
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Founded: Nov 06, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:43 pm

#1423, "A Slice of the Pi", option 4 (as I received it):
“Honestly, I’ve never liked pi. It’s just so... irrational,” says Minister of Mathematical Certainty Eddie Goodwin. “Can’t we just legislate so that everybody in Authoritaria-Imperia uses a Authoritaria-Imperian definition of pi? Let’s just say pi is 3.2. I mean, that’s true anyway for a given curvature of space time. Just say 3.2, and leave it at that, eh?”
Was the "@@A@@" macro forgotten in the highlighted place?
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The Free Joy State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:57 pm

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:#1423, "A Slice of the Pi", option 4 (as I received it):
“Honestly, I’ve never liked pi. It’s just so... irrational,” says Minister of Mathematical Certainty Eddie Goodwin. “Can’t we just legislate so that everybody in Authoritaria-Imperia uses a Authoritaria-Imperian definition of pi? Let’s just say pi is 3.2. I mean, that’s true anyway for a given curvature of space time. Just say 3.2, and leave it at that, eh?”
Was the "@@A@@" macro forgotten in the highlighted place?

Amended.
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Paffnia
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Founded: Nov 03, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Paffnia » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:52 am

Valentine Z wrote:#596: Primogeniture Problems [Nuremgard; ed: Lenyo]

The Issue
Due to the reigning monarch's lack of heirs, which could conceivably cause a succession crisis, the aristocratic elite have begun to question the ancient law of primogeniture.
Valentine Z wrote:5. "We need a radical reshaping of our country's power structure!" bellows crazed usurper @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@ as she brandishes a blade at the terrified male courtier's privates. "For too long the patriarchy has oppressed us and denied us our natural rights to rule! Abolish primogeniture and ensure that only women may inherit the throne! We shall usher in a golden age of feminine supremacy!" The courtier shrieks as she accidentally cuts his trousers in excitement.

In this option, I think it should be "patrilineal primogeniture" (or "agnatic primogeniture" or "male-only primogeniture"), since "primogeniture" alone just means that the first-born who is qualified is the successor. Even if only women can rule, there still needs to be a rule about which daughter of the queen should succeed her, and if that rule favors the first-born daughter, that rule would still, in my understanding, be called "primogeniture" (specifically, matrilineal primogeniture), even an eldest son is passed over. Getting rid of first-born preference-among-the-allowed-gender doesn't follow from the usurper's stance. Also, for the same reason, the use of "primogeniture" in the issue description is at least confusing; "begun to question the rules of @@NAME@@'s ancient law of primogeniture" might be clearer.
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The Free Joy State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:27 pm

Paffnia wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:#596: Primogeniture Problems [Nuremgard; ed: Lenyo]

The Issue
Due to the reigning monarch's lack of heirs, which could conceivably cause a succession crisis, the aristocratic elite have begun to question the ancient law of primogeniture.
Valentine Z wrote:5. "We need a radical reshaping of our country's power structure!" bellows crazed usurper @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@ as she brandishes a blade at the terrified male courtier's privates. "For too long the patriarchy has oppressed us and denied us our natural rights to rule! Abolish primogeniture and ensure that only women may inherit the throne! We shall usher in a golden age of feminine supremacy!" The courtier shrieks as she accidentally cuts his trousers in excitement.

In this option, I think it should be "patrilineal primogeniture" (or "agnatic primogeniture" or "male-only primogeniture"), since "primogeniture" alone just means that the first-born who is qualified is the successor. Even if only women can rule, there still needs to be a rule about which daughter of the queen should succeed her, and if that rule favors the first-born daughter, that rule would still, in my understanding, be called "primogeniture" (specifically, matrilineal primogeniture), even an eldest son is passed over. Getting rid of first-born preference-among-the-allowed-gender doesn't follow from the usurper's stance. Also, for the same reason, the use of "primogeniture" in the issue description is at least confusing; "begun to question the rules of @@NAME@@'s ancient law of primogeniture" might be clearer.

This issue is about whether or not absolute primogeniture (the right of the firstborn child of either sex to inherit) should be brought in (@@NAME@@ is not assumed to have ancient laws of absolute primogeniture), and each nation will, depending on whether they have a male or female monarch, already see the options best suited.

So there's no reason to change it.

EDIT: Incidentally, this thread is for issues thought to have spelling, grammar, or other objective errors, or suspected validity or macro errors. Thanks.
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Paffnia
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Paffnia » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:18 pm

Sorry, let me try again more clearly. I'm reporting an objective error, yes. In the option internally numbered 5 of Issue #596, quoted above, I believe the word "primogeniture" is being misused.

The speaker of the option wants to change policy so that only women can rule, correct? If that is the case, then it does not make sense that the speaker would call for abolishing "primogeniture." I think the author of the issue assumed that "primogeniture" = "male-only primogeniture" or "male-preference primogeniture"—hence why the speaker of the option calls for abolishing it—but that isn't actually the case. A system where the eldest daughter inherits the throne, to the exclusion of sons, is also a kind of primogeniture: matrilineal primogeniture. There's no reason the speaker should oppose matrilineal primogeniture, and it in fact seems to be basically what she wants. But as the option reads now, the speaker is seeking 1) that only women can inherit the throne and 2) that an elder daughter not have a better claim to the throne than a younger daughter (because of abolishing "primogeniture"). #2 doesn't follow and seems like it isn't actually what the author intended the speaker to mean.

I suggest deleting "Abolish primogeniture and" or changing it to "Abolish patrilineal primogeniture and," either of which would make the issue option actually read as what I assume what intended. Because as is, the speaker is calling for something that doesn't follow from her position and seems to stem from a confusion over what "primogeniture" alone means.
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The Free Joy State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:46 pm

Paffnia wrote:Sorry, let me try again more clearly. I'm reporting an objective error, yes. In the option internally numbered 5 of Issue #596, quoted above, I believe the word "primogeniture" is being misused.

The speaker of the option wants to change policy so that only women can rule, correct? If that is the case, then it does not make sense that the speaker would call for abolishing "primogeniture." I think the author of the issue assumed that "primogeniture" = "male-only primogeniture" or "male-preference primogeniture"—hence why the speaker of the option calls for abolishing it—but that isn't actually the case. A system where the eldest daughter inherits the throne, to the exclusion of sons, is also a kind of primogeniture: matrilineal primogeniture. There's no reason the speaker should oppose matrilineal primogeniture, and it in fact seems to be basically what she wants. But as the option reads now, the speaker is seeking 1) that only women can inherit the throne and 2) that an elder daughter not have a better claim to the throne than a younger daughter (because of abolishing "primogeniture"). #2 doesn't follow and seems like it isn't actually what the author intended the speaker to mean.

I suggest deleting "Abolish primogeniture and" or changing it to "Abolish patrilineal primogeniture and," either of which would make the issue option actually read as what I assume what intended. Because as is, the speaker is calling for something that doesn't follow from her position and seems to stem from a confusion over what "primogeniture" alone means.

Let me try again: only male-dominated nations will get that option (which may be more readily apparent had Paffnia received this issue; which it never appears to have done from looking at your issues), ergo it will be obvious which gender is being referred to. The wording of this issue, as it currently stands, is fine.

Kindly consider this query closed.
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Paffnia
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Paffnia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:55 am

Thanks for looking into it.
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Aibohphobia
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Ex-Nation

Issue #1423

Postby Aibohphobia » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:05 pm

a given curvature of space time
Should be "space-time" or "spacetime".

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Candlewhisper Archive
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Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:59 pm

Aibohphobia wrote:
a given curvature of space time
Should be "space-time" or "spacetime".


My bad, fixed.
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Authoritaria-Imperia
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Founded: Nov 06, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:30 pm

Option #3 of #581 spells "pavilion" with two l's, while the description spells it with one. I know alternate spellings are fine, but I don't know if that's true within a single issue…
Seems like one l is most common, but it's up to you all if it warants a change at all.
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Pogaria
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:36 pm

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:Option #3 of #581 spells "pavilion" with two l's, while the description spells it with one. I know alternate spellings are fine, but I don't know if that's true within a single issue…
Seems like one l is most common, but it's up to you all if it warants a change at all.

Good catch. I changed it to the standard "one L" spelling.
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Disgraces
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Founded: Apr 07, 2020
Corporate Bordello

Postby Disgraces » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:59 pm

I got the issue #485 and according to the wiki I should be eligible to choose the third option, but I can't.
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Authoritaria-Imperia
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Founded: Nov 06, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:32 pm

Disgraces wrote:I got the issue #485 and according to the wiki I should be eligible to choose the third option, but I can't.
I'm not an editor, but that wiki's not official or infallible; I'm not sure how much you can rely on that. There could easily be stat eligibility requirements…
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Noahs Second Country
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Anarchy

Postby Noahs Second Country » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:46 pm

Disgraces wrote:I got the issue #485 and according to the wiki I should be eligible to choose the third option, but I can't.

You are not eligible to receive that option currently nor were you at the time of receiving that issue.

Remember that things like the wiki are third party sources.
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