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[Candlewhisper Archive]

Hi,

I'm not entirely sure this belongs here (my apologies if it doesn't), but I recently received an issue where I could take away tax exempt status from religious groups/people even though I already voted to do so in an earlier issue.


The issue : The Apotheosis of a leader (Nr. 363)

Option nr. 4

(...) "It's the perfect opportunity to end the tax breaks for people with imaginary friends, and funnel that additional money into the areas it can do some real good, like authors of popular science books!" (...)

That's not a tracked decision, unfortunately.

Most decisions in the game aren't specifically tracked, they just affect your underlying numbers which are recorded without any specific notes about the policies that enact them. Specific decision notes are only marked down when they are needed for the creation of particular issues.

A good way to make this decision become a tracked one would be to write a good quality issue where the decision to end tax breaks for religions has an interesting consequence. That would give us a reason to add that specific policy as a recorded decision, and we'd then go back and put checks on the above.

[The Sovereign Eudaimonia]

That's not a tracked decision, unfortunately.

Most decisions in the game aren't specifically tracked, they just affect your underlying numbers which are recorded without any specific notes about the policies that enact them. Specific decision notes are only marked down when they are needed for the creation of particular issues.

A good way to make this decision become a tracked one would be to write a good quality issue where the decision to end tax breaks for religions has an interesting consequence. That would give us a reason to add that specific policy as a recorded decision, and we'd then go back and put checks on the above.

Thanks for the explanation! It makes sense.

I'll try to think about a quality new issue but I don't think it will be easy as it needs to be considerably different than already existing religious tax issues to be considered.

Regardless, thanks again.

[Trotterdam]

Most decisions in the game aren't specifically tracked, they just affect your underlying numbers which are recorded without any specific notes about the policies that enact them. Specific decision notes are only marked down when they are needed for the creation of particular issues.

A good way to make this decision become a tracked one would be to write a good quality issue where the decision to end tax breaks for religions has an interesting consequence. That would give us a reason to add that specific policy as a recorded decision, and we'd then go back and put checks on the above.

I'll try to think about a quality new issue but I don't think it will be easy as it needs to be considerably different than already existing religious tax issues to be considered.

For what it's worth, we don't currently have an issue whose premise requires that religions are taxed, but we do have an issue whose premise requires that religions aren't taxed (#695). (Meanwhile #91, the basic issue about the subject, doesn't inherently require it either way for the premise, but the language used still implies that religions currently aren't taxed.)

[Graintfjall]

I got the issue Acres Wild 1166. The description:

Upon the planned completion of their vacation estate in northern Graintfjall, a Graintfjallian billionaire has additionally, and unexpectedly, purchased the vast bulk of a large forest adjacent to their property for the sole purpose of stocking and hunting porpoises.

Is it worth making this valid only for land-based animals? The game correctly identifies my porpoises as living in seas, not forests, on my nation description page.

Not a massive issue if not but just thought I'd mention it as those pesky forest-dwelling porpoises seem a bit lost.

[Romance and Reverie]

Not sure whether or not this is already fixed, since I haven't encountered the issue via the game. I came across it through a forum.


Name of Issue: Siren Song (#974)
Option: #2
Problem: Subject-pronoun disagreement.
Solution: Change "them" to "it".

Corrected with context:


“Well, not everyone has a cell phone, and what if its battery dies in the middle of a storm, what then? The biggest advantage to sirens is that we can assure that they will always work... as long as they aren’t old, malfunctioning, or whatever. It should be clear that a refit of the siren system is on the radar. All we need to do is update them it to be more... attention-grabbing. I’m sure citizens won’t ignore weather sirens if we replace the wail with, say, a blood-curdling scream!”

[Sanctaria]

Not sure whether or not this is already fixed, since I haven't encountered the issue via the game. I came across it through a forum.


Name of Issue: Siren Song (#974)
Option: #2
Problem: Subject-pronoun disagreement.
Solution: Change "them" to "it".

Corrected with context:


“Well, not everyone has a cell phone, and what if its battery dies in the middle of a storm, what then? The biggest advantage to sirens is that we can assure that they will always work... as long as they aren’t old, malfunctioning, or whatever. It should be clear that a refit of the siren system is on the radar. All we need to do is update them it to be more... attention-grabbing. I’m sure citizens won’t ignore weather sirens if we replace the wail with, say, a blood-curdling scream!”

I read that as updating the sirens, plural, to be more attention-grabbing, so I think it's fine.

[Authoritaria-Imperia]

Maybe this is known… in any case, it's not particularly important, but I figure it can't hurt to bring it to your attention": 846.2's effect line reads

@@LEADER@@'s recent "I have a dream that we will fight them by raking muck on the beaches" speech seems a little derivative to many

My national leader is listed as "the zombies", lowercase, yet on my nation's page the effect line is capitalised:

Authoritaria-Imperia is renowned for its lax gun laws, women have a strange proclivity for dressing up as caped weasels, The zombies's recent "I have a dream that we will fight them by raking muck on the beaches" speech seems a little derivative to many, and teens are voting on which C-List pop star will be next to be evicted from the opera house. Crime…

41 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Authoritaria-Imperia, The zombies's recent "I have a dream that we will fight them by raking muck on the beaches" speech seems a little derivative to many.

I frequently see my national leader left lowercase in Issues option text. Shouldn't these instances be lowercase too? Additionally, shouldn't the quotes here be smart (“test”) instead of straight ("test")?

[The Free Joy State]

Maybe this is known… in any case, it's not particularly important, but I figure it can't hurt to bring it to your attention": 846.2's effect line reads

@@LEADER@@'s recent "I have a dream that we will fight them by raking muck on the beaches" speech seems a little derivative to many

My national leader is listed as "the zombies", lowercase, yet on my nation's page the effect line is capitalised:

Authoritaria-Imperia is renowned for its lax gun laws, women have a strange proclivity for dressing up as caped weasels, The zombies's recent "I have a dream that we will fight them by raking muck on the beaches" speech seems a little derivative to many, and teens are voting on which C-List pop star will be next to be evicted from the opera house. Crime…

41 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Authoritaria-Imperia, The zombies's recent "I have a dream that we will fight them by raking muck on the beaches" speech seems a little derivative to many.

I frequently see my national leader left lowercase in Issues option text. Shouldn't these instances be lowercase too? Additionally, shouldn't the quotes here be smart (“test”) instead of straight ("test")?

Yes, that's right. Capitalisation is an all-or-nothing thing. The other alternative would be to risk the beginning of a paragraph being uncapitalised (and while this isn't so very glaring, leaving the beginning of a paragraph without capitalisation would be)

In the body of text, we do generally respect the player's choice. The exception is when it's something where it would be ungrammatical such as titles.

In other words, no change needed.

EDIT: And the quotes are fine.

[Authoritaria-Imperia]

Maybe this is known… in any case, it's not particularly important, but I figure it can't hurt to bring it to your attention": 846.2's effect line reads My national leader is listed as "the zombies", lowercase, yet on my nation's page the effect line is capitalised:

I frequently see my national leader left lowercase in Issues option text. Shouldn't these instances be lowercase too? Additionally, shouldn't the quotes here be smart (“test”) instead of straight ("test")?

Yes, that's right. Capitalisation is an all-or-nothing thing. The other alternative would be to risk the beginning of a paragraph being uncapitalised (and while this isn't so very glaring, leaving the beginning of a paragraph without capitalisation would be)

In the body of text, we do generally respect the player's choice. The exception is when it's something where it would be ungrammatical such as titles.

In other words, no change needed.

All right. Thanks for the explanation!

[Trotterdam]

#675 still gave the effect line "carbon-footprint restrictions are making businesses walk" on a socialist nation. Posting it here rather than the effects megathread because only the effect line is questionable, the rest of the option and results seemed fine.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

#675 still gave the effect line "carbon-footprint restrictions are making businesses walk" on a socialist nation. Posting it here rather than the effects megathread because only the effect line is questionable, the rest of the option and results seemed fine.

Hmm... I guess in a fully planned economy, there can't be such a thing as businesses.

As Ransium is the author though, I'll leave it to him to see if he wants a doppelganger effect line.

[Minskiev]

#643 Option 5 says “a far sight prettier”. Shouldn’t that be “a far prettier sight”?

[Trotterdam]

#643 Option 5 says “a far sight prettier”. Shouldn’t that be “a far prettier sight”?

It's a known expression in English. I'm not sure why (is "sight" supposed to be a measure of quantity?), but it's one of those things that people say because they've heard other people saying it.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

#643 Option 5 says “a far sight prettier”. Shouldn’t that be “a far prettier sight”?

It's a known expression in English. I'm not sure why (is "sight" supposed to be a measure of quantity?), but it's one of those things that people say because they've heard other people saying it.

A little off-topic of me, but I find that interesting too.

Found this on the etymology of "a far cry", and I presume that "a far sight" probably came from similar.

https://wordhistories.net/2018/03/28/fa ... 771%2D1832)%3A

[Trotterdam]

https://wordhistories.net/2018/03/28/far-cry-meanings-origin/

I suppose that made more sense back when town criers were still the main form of disseminating news.

[Aryax]

Issue #1349 has a small typo on option 1:

“I caught the lil’ ones looking at this!” booms a concerned grandfather, attempting to show you some graphic images on his phone. “The new techmologies only promote disgusting, dangerous acts. And back in my day, young people had to work very hard to get their hands on pornography. Nowadays, these entitled, bratty kids have it so easy: they can just click a button and — boom — orgies! They need to struggle a bit and learn the value of hard work like I did. Children should not be allowed to use the internet!”

[SherpDaWerp]

Issue #1349 has a small typo on option 1:

“I caught the lil’ ones looking at this!” booms a concerned grandfather, attempting to show you some graphic images on his phone. “The new techmologies only promote disgusting, dangerous acts. And back in my day, young people had to work very hard to get their hands on pornography. Nowadays, these entitled, bratty kids have it so easy: they can just click a button and — boom — orgies! They need to struggle a bit and learn the value of hard work like I did. Children should not be allowed to use the internet!”

MI was right, you guys realised techmologies wasn't a typo. I was calling for a hyphen in the middle because I had less faith in the reader than him.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

Ha, thanks for justifying my lack of faith!

[Marxist Germany]

I received issue #1351 despite having the marriage equality policy, is this intended?

[Daarwyrth]

I received issue #1351 despite having the marriage equality policy, is this intended?

Oh, that's my issue!

When I was writing the issue, the idea was that it would be for nations that have low LGBTQ rights/acceptance, as it primarily tied to how society views the community. I guess it would be possible for a nation to have marriage equality, but simultaneously have a society that's still moderate to low on tolerance of gay marriage (USA would be such an example). However, I am not sure how the editors went about that part of the issue, so it's possible it might be unintentional.

[Marxist Germany]

I received issue #1351 despite having the marriage equality policy, is this intended?

Oh, that's my issue!

When I was writing the issue, the idea was that it would be for nations that have low LGBTQ rights/acceptance, as it primarily tied to how society views the community. I guess it would be possible for a nation to have marriage equality, but simultaneously have a society that's still moderate to low on tolerance of gay marriage (USA would be such an example). However, I am not sure how the editors went about that part of the issue, so it's possible it might be unintentional.

Fair enough then.

[The Free Joy State]

I received issue #1351 despite having the marriage equality policy, is this intended?

Oh, that's my issue!

When I was writing the issue, the idea was that it would be for nations that have low LGBTQ rights/acceptance, as it primarily tied to how society views the community. I guess it would be possible for a nation to have marriage equality, but simultaneously have a society that's still moderate to low on tolerance of gay marriage (USA would be such an example). However, I am not sure how the editors went about that part of the issue, so it's possible it might be unintentional.

As Daarwyrth suggests, it's intentional.

[Freedenea]

Hi, I'm not sure if this is an error or not, but I just got Issue No. 99 'We Need Cash Sharpish' where Option 2 is from the manager of the local location of some large chain bookstore. But this nation has the socialism policy enacted, so I'm not sure how there can be a chain bookstore or managers at all considering how the socialism policy is described and meant to work?

[The Free Joy State]

Hi, I'm not sure if this is an error or not, but I just got Issue No. 99 'We Need Cash Sharpish' where Option 2 is from the manager of the local location of some large chain bookstore. But this nation has the socialism policy enacted, so I'm not sure how there can be a chain bookstore or managers at all considering how the socialism policy is described and meant to work?

There have been chains in places with socialism.

For instance, McDonald's had restaurants in the Soviet Union.

"Manager", rather than "owner", allows the possibility for the bookstore to be state-owned.

[The Unified Missourtama States]

Dilemma 239
Option 3:

They’ll be paying for their crimes, contributing to society, and totally freeing us of having to build jails to throw their useless hides in!”

This suggests eradicating prisons, however my nation already has a “No Prison” policy.