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Lamebrainia
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Issue #941

Postby Lamebrainia » Wed May 01, 2019 12:40 am

Option #3:
my collection of 250 perfumes are a vital part

Should be:
my collection of 250 perfumes is a vital part

"Collection" is singular, not plural.

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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed May 01, 2019 2:37 am

Can be either, depending on British/American English.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/collective-nouns/

Our normal rule is that we adopt British or American spellings or grammar depending on the identity of the author.
Given the author's name, I think we assumed British English, though Lancaster of Wessex is welcome to correct this assumption of they wish.

With a view to consistency, however, have changed "empathize" to "empathise" in the last option.
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Lamebrainia
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Postby Lamebrainia » Wed May 01, 2019 3:51 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Can be either, depending on British/American English.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/collective-nouns/

Our normal rule is that we adopt British or American spellings or grammar depending on the identity of the author.
Given the author's name, I think we assumed British English, though Lancaster of Wessex is welcome to correct this assumption of they wish.

With a view to consistency, however, have changed "empathize" to "empathise" in the last option.
Thank you for correcting me. I am Australian, and this sounds blatantly incorrect to me (similar to using "aren't" or "ain't" with 1st person singular).
dictionary.com is not a reliable source, just like Wikipedia isn't. I prefer academic sources or ones that reference them:
https://english.stackexchange.com/quest ... ural-verbs
So I would like to correct your correction of me and state that British English allows both singular and plural verbs with "collective" nouns, depending on the logical emphasis the author is trying to make. I still think it's ridiculous, but you can't argue with "grammar".

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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu May 02, 2019 2:43 pm

Sure, British English allows different approaches in different places. Didn't seem necessary to go into that.
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Spiny Norman the Hedgehog
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Spiny Norman the Hedgehog » Thu May 02, 2019 5:32 pm

This looks like a validity issue for #527:
The Debate
“Momma! Momma! Git the whiskey! No! The gud kind!” shouts Rodrigo Meyer, the newly-found heir to the House of Ood. “Well, it’s about time that my royal ‘eritarge is recugnized! I declare myself the absolute ruler of Ubalin as Yer Majesty King Rex! I will be the most high and most excellent king Ubalin has ever had! And as my first act as King, I declare Ubalin’s independence from Spiny Norman the Hedgehog; the Ubalinders will be free and independent again under my rule.” He then turns to your young secretary. “And darling, if you want to be a Queen, just hit me up.”

“Liberté, égalité, fraternité!” yells Robin Stromburg, the former mayor of Ubalin, while being pulled out of your office by guards. “That tyrant Oswyn was violently ripped apart by blackout drunk peasants and if you aren’t careful the time for revolution will be nigh again. Get rid of the royal oppressors of Spiny Norman the Hedgehog!”

“Liberté, égalité, fraternité!” yells Ásmunda Butler, the former mayor of Ubalin. “We first became a part of this great country as a direct result of when that tyrant Oswyn was violently ripped apart by blackout drunk peasants! To prevent reactionaries from poisoning and breaking apart the nation with outdated traditions, we need to denounce monarchy for the sham it is whenever it pops up, starting with the Spiny royal family!”

“Maybe there’s a compromise,” speculates Cooper Herrelko, a prolific jouster and part-time mutton farmer. “How about instead of making him the absolute monarch of Ubalin, we install King... Rex as a constitutional monarch of Ubalin. That way Ubalin stays a part of Spiny Norman the Hedgehog and continues to be run by competent politicians, but they’ll have a bit of tradition to rally behind. And imagine having an actual king open the Ubalin medieval fayre. My mutton sales will go through the roof!”

Note that I got 2 out of the 3 possible "Liberté" options instead of just one.

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Luna Amore
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Postby Luna Amore » Thu May 02, 2019 6:03 pm

Spiny Norman the Hedgehog wrote:This looks like a validity issue for #527:
The Debate
“Momma! Momma! Git the whiskey! No! The gud kind!” shouts Rodrigo Meyer, the newly-found heir to the House of Ood. “Well, it’s about time that my royal ‘eritarge is recugnized! I declare myself the absolute ruler of Ubalin as Yer Majesty King Rex! I will be the most high and most excellent king Ubalin has ever had! And as my first act as King, I declare Ubalin’s independence from Spiny Norman the Hedgehog; the Ubalinders will be free and independent again under my rule.” He then turns to your young secretary. “And darling, if you want to be a Queen, just hit me up.”

“Liberté, égalité, fraternité!” yells Robin Stromburg, the former mayor of Ubalin, while being pulled out of your office by guards. “That tyrant Oswyn was violently ripped apart by blackout drunk peasants and if you aren’t careful the time for revolution will be nigh again. Get rid of the royal oppressors of Spiny Norman the Hedgehog!”

“Liberté, égalité, fraternité!” yells Ásmunda Butler, the former mayor of Ubalin. “We first became a part of this great country as a direct result of when that tyrant Oswyn was violently ripped apart by blackout drunk peasants! To prevent reactionaries from poisoning and breaking apart the nation with outdated traditions, we need to denounce monarchy for the sham it is whenever it pops up, starting with the Spiny royal family!”

“Maybe there’s a compromise,” speculates Cooper Herrelko, a prolific jouster and part-time mutton farmer. “How about instead of making him the absolute monarch of Ubalin, we install King... Rex as a constitutional monarch of Ubalin. That way Ubalin stays a part of Spiny Norman the Hedgehog and continues to be run by competent politicians, but they’ll have a bit of tradition to rally behind. And imagine having an actual king open the Ubalin medieval fayre. My mutton sales will go through the roof!”

Note that I got 2 out of the 3 possible "Liberté" options instead of just one.

You know, I spotted that by complete chance last week. One part of my edit just didn't carry over. Should be fixed now.

Actually, I think I found a better way of coding it. Should be fixed. For serious now.
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Altaralk
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Postby Altaralk » Sat May 04, 2019 9:30 am

In this nation, where religion is banned, I received issue #520, which addresses religion in the military. Considering the options (520.1 supports preaching in the military and 520.3 supports religious tolerance) it seems an inappropiate issue for nations where religion is illegal.

TL;DR: Issue 520 should have validity "religion is legal"

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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat May 04, 2019 8:45 pm

Altaralk wrote:In this nation, where religion is banned, I received issue #520, which addresses religion in the military. Considering the options (520.1 supports preaching in the military and 520.3 supports religious tolerance) it seems an inappropiate issue for nations where religion is illegal.

TL;DR: Issue 520 should have validity "religion is legal"

There was a small bit of code that needed altering. Nations with the Atheist policy shouldn't be able to get it now.

You'll still have the issue in your folder, so feel free to dismiss the issue. It won't impact your nation at all.
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Altaralk
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Postby Altaralk » Sun May 05, 2019 1:31 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Altaralk wrote:In this nation, where religion is banned, I received issue #520, which addresses religion in the military. Considering the options (520.1 supports preaching in the military and 520.3 supports religious tolerance) it seems an inappropiate issue for nations where religion is illegal.

TL;DR: Issue 520 should have validity "religion is legal"

There was a small bit of code that needed altering. Nations with the Atheist policy shouldn't be able to get it now.

You'll still have the issue in your folder, so feel free to dismiss the issue. It won't impact your nation at all.

Thank you. I had kept it without answering so you could check that effectively I had received the issue.

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Postby Recuecn » Mon May 06, 2019 6:02 pm

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This is the talking point for the first response (I'm assuming) for issue 803--maybe my grammar is wrong, but I thought that should either be 'detected several miles distant' or 'detected at several miles' distance'.

Edit: got the issue number wrong.
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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon May 06, 2019 10:49 pm

Recuecn wrote:(Image)
This is the talking point for the first response (I'm assuming) for issue 803--maybe my grammar is wrong, but I thought that should either be 'detected several miles distant' or 'detected at several miles' distance'.

Edit: got the issue number wrong.

Amended.
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I do not give a flip
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Postby I do not give a flip » Wed May 08, 2019 9:00 am

Issue #549 Feasting or Fasting?

Option 2: "Why have teens fight with sticks when you can offer them carrots instead?" asks @@RANDOMNAME@@, the catering assistant who always wanted to be a chef, while wheeling in a cake tray. "Just replace all those nasty sugars and fats with healthy alternatives." She places a meringue beneath your nose, smiling with pleasure as you take a bite, "You'd never guess that meringue's made with stevia, agar gel and chickpea aquafaba egg substitute!" She beams, as you spit the chemical concoction discretely into a napkin, "Just force manufacturers to take all those nasty ingredients out of our food, and our young people will be fitter in no time."

Unless it's just me being British, I'm pretty sure they mean discreetly, not discretely.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Wed May 08, 2019 9:04 am

I do not give a flip wrote:Issue #549 Feasting or Fasting?

Option 2: "Why have teens fight with sticks when you can offer them carrots instead?" asks @@RANDOMNAME@@, the catering assistant who always wanted to be a chef, while wheeling in a cake tray. "Just replace all those nasty sugars and fats with healthy alternatives." She places a meringue beneath your nose, smiling with pleasure as you take a bite, "You'd never guess that meringue's made with stevia, agar gel and chickpea aquafaba egg substitute!" She beams, as you spit the chemical concoction discretely into a napkin, "Just force manufacturers to take all those nasty ingredients out of our food, and our young people will be fitter in no time."

Unless it's just me being British, I'm pretty sure they mean discreetly, not discretely.

Amended. Thanks for reporting this.
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Durron Gin
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Clothing Issues with Mandatory Nudity?

Postby Durron Gin » Fri May 10, 2019 12:03 pm

I brought this up in the game play forum, but someone recommended I bring it up here. Recently, I encountered the 'Foundering Fashionistas' issue, which is an issue about the Leader's niece developing a strange clothing line.

However, my nation has a policy of mandatory nudity, meaning it's illegal to even HAVE clothes. Originally, I only brought it up because I was concerned it might take away the policy if I took a stance on it, however the person that directed me to this thread brought up an excellent point: Why are nations with mandatory nudity even getting clothing related issues in the first place?

If the issue was that the people were tired of the enforced nudity and wanted to abolish it, thus giving the leader of the nation a 2nd chance to rethink his or her decision, than that'd be understandable, however when it's an issue on 'Do you support this exotic clothing?' or 'Should the clothing of these people with a bad history be allowed?' in a state that practices the Mandatory Nudity policy, it is somewhat redundant.

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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri May 10, 2019 6:55 pm

Durron Gin wrote:I brought this up in the game play forum, but someone recommended I bring it up here. Recently, I encountered the 'Foundering Fashionistas' issue, which is an issue about the Leader's niece developing a strange clothing line.

However, my nation has a policy of mandatory nudity, meaning it's illegal to even HAVE clothes. Originally, I only brought it up because I was concerned it might take away the policy if I took a stance on it, however the person that directed me to this thread brought up an excellent point: Why are nations with mandatory nudity even getting clothing related issues in the first place?

If the issue was that the people were tired of the enforced nudity and wanted to abolish it, thus giving the leader of the nation a 2nd chance to rethink his or her decision, than that'd be understandable, however when it's an issue on 'Do you support this exotic clothing?' or 'Should the clothing of these people with a bad history be allowed?' in a state that practices the Mandatory Nudity policy, it is somewhat redundant.

I have amended the validity of Foundering Fashionistas, so that nations the Nudity policy will no longer be able to receive it.

The use of the Nudity policy in issues that feature clothing is a larger issue, so I'm taking it backstage for further discussion.
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Postby Trotterdam » Mon May 13, 2019 8:39 am

I got #864 on a nation that had the Atheism policy.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon May 13, 2019 1:14 pm

Trotterdam wrote:I got #864 on a nation that had the Atheism policy.


Thanks, fixed.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

#932

Postby Bormiar » Mon May 13, 2019 2:17 pm

Issue #932 (Teacher’s Past Blown Wide Open)

Option 3, should be:

“We need to take this a step further!” declares noted feminist activist @@RANDOMNAMEFEMALE@@, trying to burn her bra


Boys don't wear bras as far as I'm concerned.
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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon May 13, 2019 7:16 pm

Bormiar wrote:Issue #932 (Teacher’s Past Blown Wide Open)

Option 3, should be:

“We need to take this a step further!” declares noted feminist activist @@RANDOMNAMEFEMALE@@, trying to burn her bra


Boys don't wear bras as far as I'm concerned.

That is deliberate. There are male feminists and I am informed that bras for men do exist.

No change needed.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Devil Heart » Thu May 16, 2019 2:29 pm

Issue 574
Option three:
We should have some sort of prime directive that state what we can and can’t do up there

I'm no grammar know all, but should the word 'state' be states?
Or if the word 'that' is taken out it could be stating...

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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Thu May 16, 2019 4:14 pm

Devil Heart wrote:Issue 574
Option three:
We should have some sort of prime directive that state what we can and can’t do up there

I'm no grammar know all, but should the word 'state' be states?
Or if the word 'that' is taken out it could be stating...

Fixed.

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Hediacrana
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Postby Hediacrana » Sat May 18, 2019 4:55 pm

I got issue 601... But my nation is socialist. Would a socialist nation have private law firms?

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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon May 20, 2019 12:48 am

Hediacrana wrote:I got issue 601... But my nation is socialist. Would a socialist nation have private law firms?

Hmm... Fair point.

After discussing this backstage, this issue is no longer available for socialist nations.
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Postby Demoness » Tue May 21, 2019 3:57 am

Issue #118 Need for Speed?
After watching the movie ‘The Fast and the Belligerent’, boyracers from all over @@NATION@@ have been petitioning for the abolition of speed limits.

Google and Wikipedia tell me it should be "boy racers" and that "Boyracers" is a Scottish novel. Perhaps it's correct in UK English, but I had to look it up to see what it meant and I thought I'd point this out.

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Postby The Free Joy State » Tue May 21, 2019 5:21 am

Demoness wrote:Issue #118 Need for Speed?
After watching the movie ‘The Fast and the Belligerent’, boyracers from all over @@NATION@@ have been petitioning for the abolition of speed limits.

Google and Wikipedia tell me it should be "boy racers" and that "Boyracers" is a Scottish novel. Perhaps it's correct in UK English, but I had to look it up to see what it meant and I thought I'd point this out.

Having checked several dictionaries, it appears that "boy racers" is the usual form, so I've amended it.
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