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Fauxia
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Postby Fauxia » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:54 am

Why did I get “Coup d’Etat in @@NAME@@” on Theokratiss? It was already democratic.
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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:05 am

Jutsa wrote:Hmm... looking at it, it reads "one of your interns' back". I think that might actually be correct as clunky as that looks. :?
No, it's "one of". There need to be multiple things to choose from, even if you can only pick one.

Contrast the simplified case where you don't have a possessive: "one of the examples", not "one of the example".

Fauxia wrote:Why did I get “Coup d’Etat in @@NAME@@” on Theokratiss? It was already democratic.
And?

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Postby Jutsa » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:44 am

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Postby Fauxia » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:23 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Jutsa wrote:Hmm... looking at it, it reads "one of your interns' back". I think that might actually be correct as clunky as that looks. :?
No, it's "one of". There need to be multiple things to choose from, even if you can only pick one.

Contrast the simplified case where you don't have a possessive: "one of the examples", not "one of the example".

Fauxia wrote:Why did I get “Coup d’Etat in @@NAME@@” on Theokratiss? It was already democratic.
And?
It wasn’t a dictatorship “to our souls.” Plus it was socialist, so no bourgeoisie.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:59 pm

Trotterdam wrote:Should I get #005 in a communist nation?

I guess that "Crown Casino chairperson" doesn't technically state that it's a private enterprise, but gambling still sounds pretty capitalist-y.


In a moneyless ideal communist nation, there'd be no point in gambling. However, many ostensibly communist nations do in fact have gambling industries.
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Postby Karaden » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:38 pm

I just got an issue that I have received numerous times before, but today I finally realized there was a typo.


1 KARADENIAN RUBAL CARD
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VOL. 32 NO. 138CITY FINAL
TUESDAY OCTOBER 24, 2017
Keep The Greenbelt Green, Say Protesters

The Issue

A group of environmentalists are protesting against plans to expand urban and suburban developments into greenbelts, the designated countryside between settlements.

The Debate

“Do we really have to listen to these nutcases?” asks real estate developer, Jonathon Cogswell. “The fact of the matter is that nature is BORING. Give us permission to build on the greenbelt and you’ll have pink hotels, boutiques, and swinging hot spots that’ll be the envy of the region and draw tourists from all around! We can always transplant a few trees and put them in a tree museum to keep the tree-huggers happy. Karaden stands to make a lot of money from this!”

Accept

“I agree with my colleague here, but he doesn’t go far enough,” says Sue-Ann Rudd, a city planner. “These protestors are standing in the path of progress. It slows the growth of our economy and harms my portfolio - er - the future of our nation, I mean. It’s unpatriotic and we should increase police funding to deal with these troublemakers. Then we wouldn’t have to worry about greenbelts or any other nonsense about keeping the ‘environment’ safe.”

Accept

“I can’t believe what I’m hearing!” exclaims environmental activist Beth Platonic. “Tree museums? Police funding? Don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you’ve got til’ it’s gone? We’re talking about natural treasures and you’re talking about destroying them. Is there anything that you can build that can really be better than nature? We should put a stop to all encroachment into natural areas.”

The Typo is in the third response start of the technical 5th sentence, it should be Doesn't not Don't

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Postby Sanctaria » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:47 pm

Karaden wrote:The Typo is in the third response start of the technical 5th sentence, it should be Doesn't not Don't

Looks intentional to me. Gives the character some dimension, you can imagine how she speaks, where she might be from. Sort of a country twang.
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Karaden
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Postby Karaden » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:04 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
Karaden wrote:The Typo is in the third response start of the technical 5th sentence, it should be Doesn't not Don't

Looks intentional to me. Gives the character some dimension, you can imagine how she speaks, where she might be from. Sort of a country twang.


A twang is an elongation of vowels, not a misuse of words. Doesn't is: it Does not, while Don't is; Do not, very different meanings. Being from upstate NY and having a slight twang and knowing many more people with thicker twangs I can say that's not it.

If you look at the rest of the sentence it doesn't fit with an intentional don't. That's just my humble opinion

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Postby Sanctaria » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:06 pm

Karaden wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:Looks intentional to me. Gives the character some dimension, you can imagine how she speaks, where she might be from. Sort of a country twang.


A twang is an elongation of vowels, not a misuse of words. Doesn't is: it Does not, while Don't is; Do not, very different meanings. Being from upstate NY and having a slight twang and knowing many more people with thicker twangs I can say that's not it.

If you look at the rest of the sentence it doesn't fit with an intentional don't. That's just my humble opinion

You're right - it isn't a country twang (a word I use, not with the dictionary definition meaning, but the colloquial meaning of an accent of some sort).

It's the lyrics to Big Yellow Taxi. It is intentional.
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Postby Jutsa » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:35 pm

Plus, people often times replace "doesn't" with "don't" regardless of whether or not it's proper, among other things.
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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:58 pm

I noticed that #226 still refers to expats as "absentee voters" in a dictatorship.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:19 am

Sanctaria wrote:It's the lyrics to Big Yellow Taxi. It is intentional.


The issue is full of references to that song. I mean, I get that people won't always catch every reference, but this song should be on the School Curriculum, in my opinion. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bdMSCdw20

If we can just get another 4,124,000,000 hits on that link, we can knock that damn Despacito song off the number one spot for YouTube hits. Let's get clicking!
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:21 am

Trotterdam wrote:I noticed that #226 still refers to expats as "absentee voters" in a dictatorship.


Good point. Any suggestions?

I don't like to lose the joke, but it is a narrative inconsistency for sure.
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Postby Jutsa » Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:37 am

I've got one. :D

Just split the first option in two! That way you can have "voters" for democratic nations and "subjects" or something for non-democratic nations. :lol2:
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:39 am

Jutsa wrote:I've got one. :D

Just split the first option in two! That way you can have "voters" for democratic nations and "subjects" or something for non-democratic nations. :lol2:


Sure, the ole "doppelganger" option. Could do that. Messes up issue stats, that sort of thing, but not horribly.
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:08 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Trotterdam wrote:I noticed that #226 still refers to expats as "absentee voters" in a dictatorship.
Good point. Any suggestions?

I don't like to lose the joke, but it is a narrative inconsistency for sure.
Like Jutsa, "rightful subjects" is the best I can think of.

Basically it suggests dictatorial authoritarianism in that you're still thinking of your nation's people as being under your jurisdiction, no matter where they are right now.

But it doesn't really capture the "we'd benefit from having them here" aspect that "absentee voters" has.

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Postby Jutsa » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:13 pm

Well, "labor force" could potentially work.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:49 am

Hmmm... yeah. Well the default option is this:

"We must co-ordinate with the government of Marche Noir in order to secure our absentee voters—ahem—citizens who are in their country,"


I think what I'll do is set up a non-democratic option that says this:

"We must co-ordinate with the government of Marche Noir in order to secure our fifth columnis... ahem... citizens who are in their country,"


Will need to get that okayed by the team as its a textual edit, but does that sound good to you guys?
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:52 am

Til of the term! Looks good, rather. :3
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:38 am

I had to look up what a fifth columnist is, so that's a weakness.

Having looked it up, there's also the fact that it implies these citizens were sent to Marche Noir deliberately, rather than moving there for their own reasons, althought that could fall under an arrogant politician assuming that all our citizens will be invariably patriotic and advancing our interests. More importantly, bringing them home would put an end to whatever work they were doing in Marche Noir, so it runs contrary to the idea of supporting a fifth column operation.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:28 pm

Good point, maybe not then.

Getting more inclined to leave it as it is, and just slap a capitalism check on the whole issue. It's a brute force approach, but it preserves the joke, which is always the number one concern.
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:09 pm

I would be disappointed if the issue became ineligible for dictatorships on a petty technicality. The joke is amusing, sure, but it's not what the issue is about. It's just a joke.

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Postby Jutsa » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:29 pm

I'd just have the dictator version changed to "workforce" if anything. :P
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Postby Pogaria » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:19 pm

Jutsa wrote:I'd just have the dictator version changed to "workforce" if anything. :P

That sounds good to me.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:56 am

Okay, will implement that shortly then.
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