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Steelfeather Rapture 2
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Founded: Nov 17, 2021
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Steelfeather Rapture 2 » Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:13 am

I just got Issue #5 ("Child Casino Shock") in Steelfeather Rapture 2 despite negative gambling. Should this issue be available for negative gambling nations? Would that represent black market gambling institutions being open to kids? I'm asking questions because I'm not sure that it needs a new validity check, I just wanted to raise the issue for consideration. If child gambling happens in negative gambling nations to represent black market gambling institutions being open to kids, I'm not sure that casinos that seedy are actually something the government can effectively ban... They're already illegal institutions, after all.

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Pogaria
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Posts: 3724
Founded: Antiquity
Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:48 pm

Therimenjas wrote:I just got issue #1363 ("In My Defence") in Therimenjas despite a lack of local law enforcement. This issue needs a validity check for negative law enforcement scores.

We generally assume that all nations have some sort of police, even if they're just unpaid volunteers. However, since this issue mentions police acting on a warrant, that suggests that they're official, government-funded law enforcement. I would agree that this issue doesn't seem appropriate for nations that don't spend any money on the police, and have adjusted the validity accordingly.

The Seven Seas wrote:From issue #600, "Making a House a Home", option 5:

...founder of several, competing local governance associations.


I don't think that comma should be there.

I removed it.

Steelfeather Rapture 2 wrote:I just got Issue #5 ("Child Casino Shock") in Steelfeather Rapture 2 despite negative gambling. Should this issue be available for negative gambling nations? Would that represent black market gambling institutions being open to kids? I'm asking questions because I'm not sure that it needs a new validity check, I just wanted to raise the issue for consideration. If child gambling happens in negative gambling nations to represent black market gambling institutions being open to kids, I'm not sure that casinos that seedy are actually something the government can effectively ban... They're already illegal institutions, after all.

Good point. The first option suggests that gambling is currently legal, so they're not black market casinos. I will adjust this issue so that it checks for a gambling industry (rather than just whether it's legal or not).
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Il Sonno della Ragione Genera Mostri
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Founded: Jul 26, 2022
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Il Sonno della Ragione Genera Mostri » Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:17 am

Hello. Is this thread aimed just to show bugs? Or do you even accept suggestions to "improve" old issues?
If I'm in wrong thread please move my post.
I just faced the issue 341: "Where in the Woods Is Cindy SanFrancisco?". The option #3 (implant GPS tracking chips) can seem so drastic and radical. Why about the idea to add a more moderare option like use drones, satellites with motion detectors and heat detectors and such. The excuse can be that also the rescue workers are in danger in the woods, and the same amount of money should be given in technology, instead into human efforts and risks.
It should improve Tech industry and lower the employment, but way less crictically than the implant datachips solution.

Just my 2 cents.
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Pogaria
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Founded: Antiquity
Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:41 pm

Il Sonno della Ragione Genera Mostri wrote:Hello. Is this thread aimed just to show bugs? Or do you even accept suggestions to "improve" old issues?

I'll quote the first post:

Please use this thread only for reporting visible objective errors in grammar, spelling, punctuation and for suspected problems with validities, macros and the like.

Unexpected stat effects from option selections should go here: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=370351

Complaints about the narrative or structure of the issues should be discussed in their own threads. Start in The Writer's Block, generally.
FYI: Pogaria is pronounced like puh-GAIR-ee-uh

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SherpDaWerp
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Posts: 1906
Founded: Mar 02, 2016
Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby SherpDaWerp » Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:05 pm

#1370.4 reads weirdly when I already have the Feudalism policy instated. I know that knighthoods etc. aren't necessarily automatically included in a feudal lord/serf system but all three options that instate the policy imply they come with general titles of nobility too.

“Occupational titles?” asks your protocol assistant, straightening his cravat. “Oh no, what the government needs is some new titles of its own, to recognize citizens that have served us well! Imagine — the Riven Of A Thousand Voices Medal of Freedom! The SherpDaWerp Legion of Merit! Maybe even bring back knighthoods and earldoms and duchies? That’s how you show some appreciation! Those are the only post-nominals that should be allowed, and the only ones that matter!”
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Verdant Haven
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Posts: 2804
Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Verdant Haven » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:20 pm

SherpDaWerp wrote:#1370.4 reads weirdly when I already have the Feudalism policy instated. I know that knighthoods etc. aren't necessarily automatically included in a feudal lord/serf system but all three options that instate the policy imply they come with general titles of nobility too.

“Occupational titles?” asks your protocol assistant, straightening his cravat. “Oh no, what the government needs is some new titles of its own, to recognize citizens that have served us well! Imagine — the Riven Of A Thousand Voices Medal of Freedom! The SherpDaWerp Legion of Merit! Maybe even bring back knighthoods and earldoms and duchies? That’s how you show some appreciation! Those are the only post-nominals that should be allowed, and the only ones that matter!”


Hmm, yeah that may be a bit unusual. I'll bring it up backstage!

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Trotterdam
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Posts: 10549
Founded: Jan 12, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:28 am

I don't think I should be getting #1179 (which is not only about fishing, but commercial large-scale fishing) on a vegetarian nation.

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Steelfeather Rapture 1
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Posts: 90
Founded: Aug 18, 2021
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Steelfeather Rapture 1 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:21 am

Vat reproduction options, such as Issue #123 ("Now, Vat's Food for Thought"), possibly shouldn't remove Sex Education policies anymore now that it's been changed from "No Sex" to "Vat-Produced Infants". Education around STDs and emotionally healthy relationships is still relevant, and I think the subject is also an ally in the eternal quest to hold student attention without making students hate the teacher.
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Bears Armed
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Founded: Jun 01, 2006
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:04 pm

Not an old issue that could perhaps be seen as needing to be fixed, but a very new one.

Issue #1531 'Fine Time' _ Option 2 talks about introducing a flat tax rate. Should that really be received by nations, such as Bears Armed, where "Income tax is unheard of"?
(Having already tested the only option that I could see Bear Armed [IC] possibly choosing with a puppet, earlier today, I chose to have B-A. dismiss the issue.)
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(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
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Brezzia
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Posts: 288
Founded: Aug 26, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Brezzia » Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:11 am

Bears Armed wrote:Not an old issue that could perhaps be seen as needing to be fixed, but a very new one.

Issue #1531 'Fine Time' _ Option 2 talks about introducing a flat tax rate. Should that really be received by nations, such as Bears Armed, where "Income tax is unheard of"?
(Having already tested the only option that I could see Bear Armed [IC] possibly choosing with a puppet, earlier today, I chose to have B-A. dismiss the issue.)

I also received that issue. It is about a "local tycoon" and his factories, but I have Socialism policy so it's a bit strange.


Nation Name: Brezzia
Official Name: Brezzian Workes' Council Republic
Capital city: Nova Sybaris
Region: Badge
WA Category: Left-wing Utopia
Embassy Program: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=544944
Government System: Council Republic
Economic System: Socialist
President of the Committee of the Republic: Nando Martellone
President of the Council of Commissars: Olga Demetri
Commissar for Foreign Affairs: Guido Forestieri
WA Permanent Representative: Carlo A. Van Vera

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Verdant Haven
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Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Verdant Haven » Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:51 am

Brezzia wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Not an old issue that could perhaps be seen as needing to be fixed, but a very new one.

Issue #1531 'Fine Time' _ Option 2 talks about introducing a flat tax rate. Should that really be received by nations, such as Bears Armed, where "Income tax is unheard of"?
(Having already tested the only option that I could see Bear Armed [IC] possibly choosing with a puppet, earlier today, I chose to have B-A. dismiss the issue.)

I also received that issue. It is about a "local tycoon" and his factories, but I have Socialism policy so it's a bit strange.



Apologies - there is a typo in the validity check. I'll get it brought up backstage pronto.

Edit: This has been fixed. Thank you for the quick report.
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West Barack and East Obama
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Posts: 815
Founded: Apr 20, 2022
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby West Barack and East Obama » Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:55 am

Sorry socialist nations for making Jeff Bezos immigrate there :(
Sonnel is the place.

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Aryax
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Posts: 62
Founded: Oct 16, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Aryax » Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:33 am

Issue #505 has the following issue text:
Bigtopian Balsam — an invasive weed with an extremely short gestation period, rapid growth, and hallucinogenic properties — has infested the Aryaxian hillsides. After smothering endangered wildflowers and crop-laden fields alike, a seemingly unlikely coalition of environmentalists and business owners have petitioned the government for action.

(emphasis mine)
That part seems odd for nations with the Socialism policy, especially since the issue answers already have socialist doppelgangers when needed. The premise itself works well for socialist nations, but I still find it hard to overlook the fact that it mentions business "owners".
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People's Republic of Aryax
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Arjaksaja Narodnaja Rjespublika
Read first | Overview | Constitution | Leader
Pogaria wrote:Wow, I've never seen a nation that was this restrictive. I can see why you're #1 for "Most Extreme".

Trotterdam wrote:The really weird thing is that Aryax still manages to score highly on a number of scales such as Average Income of Poor, Cheerfulness, Lifespan, Human Development Index, and Intelligence. Apparently, this is a totalitarian dictatorship that works.
Vivolkha's main stat-playing puppet. WARNING: All factbooks need a revamp. This nation does not represent my views.

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Allinburg
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Posts: 890
Founded: Feb 13, 2015
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Allinburg » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:35 am

One of my puppet accounts received 1180, with option 2 for nations where abortion is illegal:
“I’m sure the gods wouldn’t appreciate withered, elderly sacrifices,” argues 55-year-old professor @@RANDOM_NAME@@. “You should instead encourage parents to give their fatally sick or otherwise unwanted children to our cause. You should also let hospitals perform ritual abortions, while you’re at it.”

That nation does allow abortion and, to add insult to injury, makes it illegal to biologically reproduce.
Policies of Borkpeka — see "Vat-Produced Infants"
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Wind and Void Rapture 1
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Posts: 34
Founded: Nov 13, 2021
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Wind and Void Rapture 1 » Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:54 pm

I have a 55.23% atheism rate and I got the issue where religious leaders were requesting an inquisition to try blasphemy. I think that issue needs a validity check to stop it from happening in notably secular nations. To clarify, that's issue #219 ("Nobody Expects the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ Inquisition!")

I held onto it for a while thinking, "Oh, I want to maximize secularism," but I just think it wouldn't actually arise. You might want to put a validity check on it for nations where the middle option wouldn't improve civil rights, too. If finding against the inquisition wouldn't impress civil rights advocates, then the civil rights advocates are already powerful enough that the inquisition shouldn't be possible.
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Rain Falling in a Digital Void (or as I call it, "Rafaiad") is 100% puppet nations. I am predominantly a stats player. Steelfeather Rapture 1 is my primary nation. Steelfeather Rapture 2 is my anti-black-market nation. Wind and Void Rapture 1 is intended to become my secularist nation. Secularist nations are oddly hard to construct in this game, but I have faith I'll get there in due time.

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Austria 2
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Posts: 6
Founded: Jul 08, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Austria 2 » Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:43 am

I think @@ @@ needs to be in my issue [bruh didn't draft]
news: nyan cat invaded 6k regions

I have a capital and a issue maker

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The Ursine Northlands
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Posts: 75
Founded: May 23, 2009
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Ursine Northlands » Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:30 pm

This nation just received #1240 'Unadmirable Zeal'.
That issue refers to "your nation's avowed secularism".
This nation not only has a National Religion named but also is ranked in the Top 1%, at 1911th out of 282'793, for 'Most Devout'.
Maybe that issue's Validity needs to be changed?

(I dismissed the issue.)
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This is the northern section of Bears Armed, and enjoys a high level of autonomy.

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Verdant Haven
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Posts: 2804
Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Verdant Haven » Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:41 am

The Ursine Northlands wrote:This nation just received #1240 'Unadmirable Zeal'.
That issue refers to "your nation's avowed secularism".
This nation not only has a National Religion named but also is ranked in the Top 1%, at 1911th out of 282'793, for 'Most Devout'.
Maybe that issue's Validity needs to be changed?

(I dismissed the issue.)


Hmm, yup, that looks problematic! It did fit the programmed validity, but that may need a little nudge. I'll bring it up backstage.

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Wind and Void Rapture 1
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Founded: Nov 13, 2021
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Wind and Void Rapture 1 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:14 pm

Issue #927 ("Your Assignment, Should You Choose to Accept It") may benefit from a different result on the first response for vat-reproduction nation, where the concept of parenting may be meaningfully different from how it is in other nations.

Or it may not. It depends. If the vats deliver freshly decanted infants to families, the issue could work as-written with the given output. There would then still be parents raising kids. I leave this up to the issue editors.
Rain Falling in a Digital Void (or as I call it, "Rafaiad") is 100% puppet nations. I am predominantly a stats player. Steelfeather Rapture 1 is my primary nation. Steelfeather Rapture 2 is my anti-black-market nation. Wind and Void Rapture 1 is intended to become my secularist nation. Secularist nations are oddly hard to construct in this game, but I have faith I'll get there in due time.

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Aryax
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Posts: 62
Founded: Oct 16, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Aryax » Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:56 am

Aryax wrote:Issue #505 has the following issue text:
Bigtopian Balsam — an invasive weed with an extremely short gestation period, rapid growth, and hallucinogenic properties — has infested the Aryaxian hillsides. After smothering endangered wildflowers and crop-laden fields alike, a seemingly unlikely coalition of environmentalists and business owners have petitioned the government for action.

(emphasis mine)
That part seems odd for nations with the Socialism policy, especially since the issue answers already have socialist doppelgangers when needed. The premise itself works well for socialist nations, but I still find it hard to overlook the fact that it mentions business "owners".

Found another issue with a premise that could potentially use a fix. #587 reads:
Last week, a humanoid robot announced its intentions to serve as the nation’s first android federal judge. Concerned citizens have come to you as to the implications and legality of this potential appointment.

What if the nation receiving this issue is not a federation? (I received this issue on this nation, which is not a federation)
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People's Republic of Aryax
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Arjaksaja Narodnaja Rjespublika
Read first | Overview | Constitution | Leader
Pogaria wrote:Wow, I've never seen a nation that was this restrictive. I can see why you're #1 for "Most Extreme".

Trotterdam wrote:The really weird thing is that Aryax still manages to score highly on a number of scales such as Average Income of Poor, Cheerfulness, Lifespan, Human Development Index, and Intelligence. Apparently, this is a totalitarian dictatorship that works.
Vivolkha's main stat-playing puppet. WARNING: All factbooks need a revamp. This nation does not represent my views.

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Steelfeather Rapture 2
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 52
Founded: Nov 17, 2021
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Steelfeather Rapture 2 » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:38 am

Issue #904 ("Yours Insincerely") is an issue about the behavior of professional politicians. This issue shouldn't arise under sortition.

I may be underestimating the ubiquitous nature of the "thoughts and prayers" response, such that it would tend to arise with randomly selected "politicians" as well. Freely ignore me if you think I'm wrong.

P.S. Please take "Aphrodite" and the other ancient god names out of the name pool. I got "Aphrodite" offering me option #2. I don't think Aphrodite is falling asleep in SR2's government ceremonies.

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Camp Mennihackatorso
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 5
Founded: Aug 26, 2022
Conservative Democracy

Postby Camp Mennihackatorso » Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:21 pm

Issue #555 ("It's an Honor Just to be Nominated") has an Information Technology Mogul offering that fourth option. It may not be appropriate to offer that potential to socialist nations.

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TalAkMaChen
Diplomat
 
Posts: 682
Founded: Sep 04, 2006
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby TalAkMaChen » Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:45 am

Issue 1319 offers a fourth option that allows citizens, pregnant women especially, to leave the country. This option should not be presented to nations with a "No emigration" policy in place.

Also, I'm wondering how a nation with enforced Worship of the official state religion can have an atheist advisor (issue 285, option 3). Yes, NormanJackson still got 0.1 rating on secularism but under a dictator like their leader no living advisor would dare being atheist. Or is that a case similar to option 4 of the same issue?
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Saciu
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 372
Founded: Sep 28, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Saciu » Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:44 pm

Issue #1162 uses the misspelling "transwoman" - the correct spelling is "trans woman".
C'est Saciu, previously The South Pacific's most influential trans person (then my account got zucc'd)
Pro: idk. trans rights ig.Internationalism, liberalism, etc
Neutral: idk.
Anti: idk. Nationalism, populism etc about 90% of my opinions have changed since i was last here but now im basically globohomo

Political compass: 0.75, -8.31 lmao this was years ago im easily lib left according to when i last took it but also the compass is terrible
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FR/ES-Saquiu
PT/CA-Sáquio
IT-Sacchio
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RU-Сакиу
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Camp Mennihackatorso
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 5
Founded: Aug 26, 2022
Conservative Democracy

Postby Camp Mennihackatorso » Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:49 pm

Issue #484 ("Patriot or Patri-Not?") needs edited for conformance with nudism policies. The apathetic representative shows up wearing a Bigtopian jersey, and the advocate for the pledge of allegiance shows up wearing the colors of the national flag. I recommend that nations with enforced nudism should have the advocate for the pledge of allegiance show up PAINTED WITH the colors of the national flag, instead of wearing them as "an obnoxious outfit". As for the apathetic individual showing up in a Bigtopian jersey, I recommend modifying the issue to specify that it's an illegal jersey.

Issue #264 ("Not a Drop to Drink") also needs a check-up. The familiar-looking man dressed in camel-hair and sandals should be revised. The camel-hair clothing would be illegal in enforced nudity states.

Issue #635 ("Hey Kid, Have a Cigar") needs to have its effect lines checked. The top issue result " 50% of adverts on children's television are for clothes made of cotton wool" would be illegal in nations with enforced nudity. A new issue effect line needs to be instated for nudist nations using that issue choice.
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