Economy stuck on Imploded

[Ruslavi]

So about a month ago my economy went to imploded?! I have been forgetting about the rest of the criteria and simply focus on economy, but I still can't bring myself out. Is it even possible? Like recently today, I accepted a position on increasing the payment for retail workers.

[Ballotonia]

So about a month ago my economy went to imploded?! I have been forgetting about the rest of the criteria and simply focus on economy, but I still can't bring myself out. Is it even possible? Like recently today, I accepted a position on increasing the payment for retail workers.

Your population is 20 million, so your nation hasn't even existed for a whole month... Give it some time. For one, increase Economic Freedom.

Ballotonia

[Ruslavi]

How would I increase economic freedom?

[Fongbai]

give corporations everything they want

[Rightful Revolution]

With every issue focus on the economically benefical one

[Globexanter]

You seem to be a Communist state, no?
Because any way to make your Economy better will require minor introductions of, well, Capitalism (answering issues giving companies more rights, allowing them to fire people more easily, etc...).

[Aescentia]

NS is a bit biased against socialist/Communist nations. Just start introducing elements of capitalism in your issue-answerin' and your economy will be back up in no time.

Also, 750 posts!

[Panageadom]

Did you know the NS right says precisely the opposite? =P

[Ruslavi]

But lets say if I put some funding in defense or cloning does that increase, do nothing to, or decrease my economy. Logically I'll think that funding military to make weapons increase the economy because that creates jobs. But what does it actually do to the economy?

[Globexanter]

But lets say if I put some funding in defense or cloning does that increase, do nothing to, or decrease my economy. Logically I'll think that funding military to make weapons increase the economy because that creates jobs. But what does it actually do to the economy?

Armies don't produce anything (except War). But as mentioned before, NS acts weirdly when it comes to issues, so it is the "luck of the dip".

[Ruslavi]

And what about union strikes I recently said yes for 20% increase for retail workers. Did that increase my economy? Because it is still on imploded

[Gallade]

And what about union strikes I recently said yes for 20% increase for retail workers. Did that increase my economy? Because it is still on imploded

Don't give anything to employees. Keep opting for the CEOs and corporations.

[Ruslavi]

How bad would that hurt my civil rights?

[Great Nepal]

I have been forgetting about the rest of the criteria and simply focus on economy, but I still can't bring myself out. Is it even possible? Like recently today, I accepted a position on increasing the payment for retail workers.

I looked at your NS pace, and it does not seem like so:

32 minutes ago: Following new legislation in Ruslavi, military spending is on the increase.
66 minutes ago: Ruslavi lodged a message on the World Congress Regional Message Board.
12 hours ago: Following new legislation in Ruslavi, the nation is ravaged by daily union strikes.
1 day ago: Following new legislation in Ruslavi, it is illegal to make racist remarks in public.
3 days ago: Following new legislation in Ruslavi, the government is cutting back on the number of political prisoners executed each year.
3 days 12 hours ago: Following new legislation in Ruslavi, a well-funded social safety net protects the unfortunate.

Those two list on the worst thing you can do for the economy. You have gota give companies more freedom (ie. freedom to fire workers, freedom to exploit environment, etc while abolishing welfare).

[Ruslavi]

But the last one on the list was an issue on not being a corrupt dictatorship anymore and I dont want to be so I accepted it. And it lied to me because I am still a corrupt dictatorship

[Globexanter]

But the last one on the list was an issue on not being a corrupt dictatorship anymore and I dont want to be so I accepted it. And it lied to me because I am still a corrupt dictatorship

Never, ever ever expect Issues to work out exactly how you wanted them too.

[Osberg-Thitania]

And what about union strikes I recently said yes for 20% increase for retail workers. Did that increase my economy? Because it is still on imploded

No, it would decrease it. Bear in mind that this marker is not your economy, but your economic freedoms. Generally, when you answer a issue in a way that favors the workers, it decreases, when you answer in a way that favor the companies, it increases. There are some issues about subsidizing industries, that increase your economy at the cost of increasing your taxes, but without penalizing the workers. If you want to stay communist, i would recomend to wait till you get any issue like this.

[Ruslavi]

So I should dismiss every issue until I get that one?

[Great Nepal]

But the last one on the list was an issue on not being a corrupt dictatorship anymore and I dont want to be so I accepted it.

However, I would suggest focusing one thing at time. Look at mine, while it never dipped below "good", it started from "good" and went up to "frightening". However during that time, my political freedom was almost none and civil rights was also not too good. "Corrupt dictatorship", goes away after you have a very good economy (there may be other way to do it, but it is one of the ways). Then after economy gets stable, rest can be improved to level you want.

And it lied to me because I am still a corrupt dictatorship

Welcome to NS. Issues say one thing and do other.

[Ruslavi]

Thanks so I will keep increasing my economy, however, I want to stay communist. Is there a way to do both of them?

[Globexanter]

Thanks so I will keep increasing my economy, however, I want to stay communist. Is there a way to do both of them?

You've got to easy a tiny bit of Capitalism into your Nation, it is the only way. Unless you get the Gold Deposit Issue. Then take it all for your govt

[Osberg-Thitania]

So I should dismiss every issue until I get that one?

No, that would remove all the fun of the game!

Also, don´ge too obsesed with the economy. A contry of my region has "imploded" economy, but consistently scores first place in longest lifespan and happiest citizens.

[Panageadom]

No, you don't.

NS will let you be as authoritarian economically as you like, as long as you manage to run your centralised economy as effeciently as possible. Naturally, that's very difficult, especially given that your present responses don't seem to bely a basic understand of economic sense.

As a quick response to what has been said.

Military spending doesn't not grow the economy - in fact, by producing nothing for a lot of investment, it's a sure way to harm it.

Creating jobs is often detrimental to the overall status of the economy (although more in capitalist economies [where the sensible jobs have all been created] than in communist ones [where the government may suffer equally from under- and over-job creation]) - after all, by the logic that jobs are good, you would pay everyone to dig holes and then fill them in again (if you get the option to force your citizens to consume goods - "compulsory consumerism" - it's flawed for similar reasons).

Subsidies and tariffs, as well as bending over backwards to large corporate entities, are often bad for the economy by distorting the nature of competition. That said, NS doesn't always understand this pretty fundamental idea, and in a system with no competition (i.e. communism), I have little idea what the results would be.

As a basic principle, you want to have the most people producing the most goods that people want to consume - i.e. creating the most value/redistributing the most utility - to grow your economy. Unfortunately, without markets, you haven't a clue whether you actually are doing this!

EDIT: Post above me is symptomatic of NS misunderstanding of the nature of starvation.

[Aethrys]

I am communist, or at least strongly anti-business, and things seem to be working out pretty well for my economy. And I didn't have to erradicate the environment, either.

[Fongbai]

I am communist, or at least strongly anti-business, and things seem to be working out pretty well for my economy. And I didn't have to erradicate the environment, either.

Check Draweigon out, powerhouse economy but very public secttored. To get there though, you have to cheat by using Capitalism first since theres no way to make it anti-business without leading to a weak economy.