NationStates

Ah sweet mercy this one took forever to update. @_@

962 is so long... really, I'm surprised by its length, particularly from a CWA edit*.
It at least assures me that my own issues are probably not too long. <:D

We still need 962.1 and 962.6... gl with those. ._.

Meanwhile, for 951, I have no idea which names are random, though I suspect only the first one is. Now I've got another list to update, I guess. >_<

Drasnia wrote:

Trotterdam wrote:Just to be clear, did you get this on Drasnia or a puppet? I want to know so I can check your policies.

Drasnia. I don't usually answer on puppets.

Chan Island wrote:2) You take that back, bruv.

Oi, m8, you wanna rumble?

I will end you. *downs pint of ale* *starts a drunken fist fight*

Jutsa wrote:962 is so long... really, I'm surprised by its length, particularly from a CWA edit*.
It at least assures me that my own issues are probably not too long. <:D

It's four options of 4-6 lines each at point of presentation, so definitely longer than my normal. However, I am editing the issue, not writing it, so the style is essentially Free Joy State's not mine.

While I'm not averse to heavy editing when its needed, I'm also not averse to minimal editing when an issue stands well as written.

Fair enough.

Also, no fighting in here! This is a thread previously run by someone with Christian in their name!
You wanna get into a drunken fistfight, go to that bar at the corner of every planet or something.

Jutsa wrote:We still need 962.1 and 962.6... gl with those. ._.

There is a decent chance that they have the same text and differ only in the effect line, especially for the latter.

If you think finding those is daunting, you should see what I'm dealing with on my end. There are twelve new effect lines. Four, maybe five are from an issue about gladiator games or other violent sports (that should be #964), and I'm having a hard time disentangling the rest.

Well, 926.6 specifically mentions a website, so I suspect at least that one has slightly different text.
That said, yeah, good luck with untangling everything. My hunt for options has been postponed for yet another thing.
I swear, every time I start a major project I end up giving myself another few major projects.

Jutsa wrote:Well, 926.6 specifically mentions a website, so I suspect at least that one has slightly different text.

Oh right, missed that.

But how did you end up typing #926 6 when you meant #962 5?

Trotterdam wrote:

Jutsa wrote:We still need 962.1 and 962.6... gl with those. ._.

There is a decent chance that they have the same text and differ only in the effect line, especially for the latter.

If you think finding those is daunting, you should see what I'm dealing with on my end. There are twelve new effect lines. Four, maybe five are from an issue about gladiator games or other violent sports (that should be #964), and I'm having a hard time disentangling the rest.

Would it help you if I spent a few hours randomly swapping effect lines across unrelated issues, then put them back afterwards?

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Would it help you if I spent a few hours randomly swapping effect lines across unrelated issues, then put them back afterwards?

Help me have a nervous breakdown, sure.

Up to thirteen now, by the way.

Forgot to mention that there's also an effect line that I've only seen once a week ago (unfortunately I didn't record on which nation) and then never again, so I'm really wondering what's up with that.

If it has to do with #911, I can definitely see that if it's a not-so-frequent option.

If it has nothing to do with any of the issues we're missing... well, Idk what to say, tbh.

Jutsa wrote:If it has to do with #911, I can definitely see that if it's a not-so-frequent option.

Oh, those aren't that rare. I've seen all four options at least once in the last 3 days, with the most popular one having been chosen as recently as an hour and thirty-five minutes ago, plus these options have been around for a while.

This is definitely something weirder.

Firstly: All of these appearances and still noone's reported 911? , _ ,
(I understand, but still)

Secondly: weirder? Maybe it's possible it really was briefly added just to mess with you?

Oooh! I should write an issue that reuses effects lines from a bunch of existing issues just to mess with you. Or write an issue where all options have the same effect (probably “euthanasia is illegal” )

Jutsa wrote:Secondly: weirder? Maybe it's possible it really was briefly added just to mess with you?

I had considered the possibility.

Or at least that an editor briefly tested an issue and then took it out of circulation.

Actually, maybe it's an issue with a bugged validity, so only the original author (who got auto-assigned it for authoring it) ever got to answer it?

I wish I had kept which nation it was from. But I don't know in advance what's going to turn out to be important and what's not worth worrying about. I really thought someone would have reported #917 by now. (I can't figure out any sort of validity - it doesn't seem to be a chain issue nor dependent to any particular policy.)

Ransium wrote:Oooh! I should write an issue that reuses effects lines from a bunch of existing issues just to mess with you.

That almost exists, by the way. I have it reliably recorded that both "cars are banned" and "cars have been banned" are effect lines that exist. I'm pretty sure the former is from #2 1, but I have no idea what's up with the latter.

While I happen to be sorting my effect lines by alphabet, I notice that "cars are banned from built-up areas" definitely used to be in the game (as #102 3), but hasn't been seen since my new program went online.

Up to 16 effect lines, by the way. Fortunately, I almost just figured out what's up with 3 of them, except that it seems there's two new issues that are about music in some way.

#966 As You Don't Like It

The Issue

Duke @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@ of Lower @@CAPITAL@@-Upon-Tyne caused quite a stir this weekend after he had a traveling minstrel group chased out of town. While some fellow peers have accused him of being humorless, the Duke countered that the troupe was subverting his authority with their seditious acts.

The Debate

1. "That troupe's impromptu performance was scandalous," spits the irate Duke. "Caricaturing me as the villain in their little Scheherazade knock-off? The nerve of those performers! Do you think I let these thespian transients wander around my domain just to watch them humiliate our way of life? I've no obligation to provide charity to a bunch of disrespectful wretches. @@LEADER@@, forbid these flimflam singsongs and outlaw this sort of vagrancy before some smart-alecky troupe comes knocking at your door. We'll all be safer for it in the long-run."

2. "Have you no sense of perspective?" exclaims beaten and ragged minstrel @@RANDOMNAME@@, haphazardly waving a flute around. "Satire is essential for introspection! Don't be such a stuffed shirt. If you really want performers off the street, let us musicians be officially patronized by the government. Just assign a musical group to each noble family, and our melodious tunes will surely lighten the load on their noble shoulders."

3. "Isn't that what you employ oddfellows like me for?" grumbles grizzled jester Krusty @@ANIMAL@@, covered profusely in tomato stains. "Me and my mates, your musicians, clowns, acrobats, dancing poodle performers, you name it - we're smart enough not to bite the hand that feeds us. Construct a grand theatre for all to see and adore us, and we'll sing your praises loud enough to drown out the voices of petty satire."

Issue by Altmer Dominion
Edited by Wyethalania

I'm so glad one of my nations is totally insane.

Added! Looks like my hopes for a wave of new issues came true :D

Congratulations, Altmer! Also nice to see Wyethelania back in the editing business. :3c

Jutsa wrote:Added! Looks like my hopes for a wave of new issues came true

Oh, yeah, that's just normal. The editors seem to often add no issues at all for several days, then suddenly add several new issues all at once. This is a good way to frustrate me, congratulations. But I will not be so easily beaten.

Drasnia wrote:#961: No Two Way About It [Singapore no2; ed:Pogaria]

For reference, this should be "No Two Ways About It".

Pogaria wrote:

Drasnia wrote:#961: No Two Way About It [Singapore no2; ed:Pogaria]

For reference, this should be "No Two Ways About It".

Oops, I messed up while typing it out. Good catch.

Speaking of which, the book title in 962: is that supposed to be a ?. ?

Jutsa wrote:Speaking of which, the book title in 962: is that supposed to be a ?. ?

Yes. The book's called Inconsiderate ‘Intolerances’ and Awkward ‘Allergies’: Why Won’t the Whiners Simply Swallow Their Fare? and it's ending a declarative sentence. Thus you have the strange-looking yet grammatical ?..

Alrighty, thanks; just wanted to make sure.

Trotterdam wrote:

Jutsa wrote:Secondly: weirder? Maybe it's possible it really was briefly added just to mess with you?

I had considered the possibility.

Or at least that an editor briefly tested an issue and then took it out of circulation.

Actually, maybe it's an issue with a bugged validity, so only the original author (who got auto-assigned it for authoring it) ever got to answer it?

I wish I had kept which nation it was from. But I don't know in advance what's going to turn out to be important and what's not worth worrying about. I really thought someone would have reported #917 by now. (I can't figure out any sort of validity - it doesn't seem to be a chain issue nor dependent to any particular policy.)

Ransium wrote:Oooh! I should write an issue that reuses effects lines from a bunch of existing issues just to mess with you.

That almost exists, by the way. I have it reliably recorded that both "cars are banned" and "cars have been banned" are effect lines that exist. I'm pretty sure the former is from #2 1, but I have no idea what's up with the latter.

While I happen to be sorting my effect lines by alphabet, I notice that "cars are banned from built-up areas" definitely used to be in the game (as #102 3), but hasn't been seen since my new program went online.

A lot of doppelganger options use the same effect line, you know. e.g. 73.1 and 73.2, and 689.2 and 689.3. On the other hand, a lot of them don't, like 708.1 and 708.2. I'm curious to know how you're managing to analyse those.

Cheers for the heads up on cars are banned / cars have been banned by the way. I'll be sure to periodically swap those two*.

(*joke)