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The Transmondian Commonwealth
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Founded: Oct 13, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Transmondian Commonwealth » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:50 pm

issue 647 last sentence option 1:

If someone tries to so much lay a hand on one those flying fish, then we’ll bomb ‘em back to the stone age!”


I think it should say "so much as lay a hand on one of those flying fish."

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Pogaria
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:36 pm

The Transmondian Commonwealth wrote:issue 647 last sentence option 1:

If someone tries to so much lay a hand on one those flying fish, then we’ll bomb ‘em back to the stone age!”


I think it should say "so much as lay a hand on one of those flying fish."

Thanks for the report. I fixed it.
FYI: Pogaria is pronounced like puh-GAIR-ee-uh

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Pogaria
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:51 pm

Nova Christianum wrote:I just got issue No. 559, The Low Aspiration Nation, and option 3 is about implementing slavery, but this nation already has the slavery policy active.

I changed it so that nations who have slavery won't receive this issue.
FYI: Pogaria is pronounced like puh-GAIR-ee-uh

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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:53 am

It occurs to me that #852 4, "the national shouting contest has become an important part of the electoral process", still appears on autocratic or sortition-using nations.

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Candlewhisper Archive
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Founded: Aug 28, 2015
Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:06 am

Hmm. Would be a shame to restrict that issue to democracies.

Some sort of change in phrasing seems in order. Will discuss backstage.
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Maverique
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Founded: Feb 09, 2010
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Maverique » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:00 am

In Issue 167, option 4 says "why not just have clean non-fluorinated drinking water" when it should say "fluoridated".
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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:53 am

Maverique wrote:In Issue 167, option 4 says "why not just have clean non-fluorinated drinking water and" when it should say "fluoridated".

They both work.
Max: The code changelog says, "Added 'butthole' by mod request"
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Maverique
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Maverique » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:30 am

Luna Amore wrote:
Maverique wrote:In Issue 167, option 4 says "why not just have clean non-fluorinated drinking water and" when it should say "fluoridated".

They both work.

"Fluorinated" can mean:
- Treated or reacted with fluorine or hydrofluoric acid.
- Formally derived from another compound by the replacement of one or more atoms of hydrogen with fluorine.

It is not synonymous with "fluoridated" so it definitely doesn't work.
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:07 am

Maverique is right on this one. Reviewed it and noted the speaker is a dentist, who you'd expect to have studied chemistry to that level and to be exact with the terms, so changed it.

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Candlewhisper Archive
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Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:11 am

Trotterdam wrote:It occurs to me that #852 4, "the national shouting contest has become an important part of the electoral process", still appears on autocratic or sortition-using nations.


Update on this: effect line changed.

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Olde Carolina
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Olde Carolina » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:47 am

Issue#1039

Answer #3
If you ask me, this is a very important issue,” declares your Minister of Telecommunications, giving you another thick report with too cheerful a smile. “I think it’d be a great show of integrity to take time off and read these letters out loud and to the public — not all of them, mind you. But get a balance of good and bad. That way, the populace will know that they’re being heard. Plus, you never know, an important national issue might be raised in one of those letters.”

The number one effect of this answer is to boost your nation's rudeness rating. It does not effect integrity at all. I don't understand how reading letters to the public is a rude thing, that seems like a nice thing to do, and being open with the public should boost your niceness or at least integrity, especially since integrity is mentioned in the answer.
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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:56 am

Maverique wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:They both work.

"Fluorinated" can mean:
- Treated or reacted with fluorine or hydrofluoric acid.
- Formally derived from another compound by the replacement of one or more atoms of hydrogen with fluorine.

It is not synonymous with "fluoridated" so it definitely doesn't work.

In my defense, I just googled the word and went with the first thing it told me.

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The tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal Name. The unnamable is the eternally real. Naming is the origin of all particular things. Free from desire, you realize the mystery. Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations. Yet mystery and manifestations arise from the same source. This source is called darkness. Darkness within darkness. The gateway to all understanding

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Marxist Germany
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Corporate Bordello

Postby Marxist Germany » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:33 pm

Despite having the devolution policy, option 3 in issue 67, "Likely to Secede" still appears.
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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:58 am

Marxist Germany wrote:Despite having the devolution policy, option 3 in issue 67, "Likely to Secede" still appears.

This issue has been amended.
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Marxist Germany
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Postby Marxist Germany » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:15 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:Despite having the devolution policy, option 3 in issue 67, "Likely to Secede" still appears.

This issue has been amended.

Thank you
Country represents RL views mostly. Not Marxist anymore.
Author of GA#461, and GA#470

Ex-delegate of The United Federations; citizen of 10000 Islands | Gaming User#0721(Discord)
RP name: Germany
The National Factbook (WIP)
Ambassador Klaus Schmidt
Political Compass
PolitiStates Result
Pro:Laissez-faire, Nationalism, Guns, Free speech, Christianity, Same-sex marriage, United Ireland.
Anti:Extreme Progressivism, Abortion, Socialism, Interventionism, Mass-migration.
A high school student aged 15 from Ireland, living in Co. Dublin. Interested in politics, gaming, and history.

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TalAkMaChen
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Founded: Sep 04, 2006
New York Times Democracy

Postby TalAkMaChen » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:23 am

Small thing: In the issue 1277, the first set of quotes
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planning to ”smash in ...
is the wrong one, should be
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“smash...
:)

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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:29 am

TalAkMaChen wrote:Small thing: In the issue 1277, the first set of quotes
Code: Select all
planning to ”smash in ...
is the wrong one, should be
Code: Select all
“smash...
:)

Amended.
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Founded: Aug 28, 2015
Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:35 pm

Luna Amore wrote:
Maverique wrote:"Fluorinated" can mean:
- Treated or reacted with fluorine or hydrofluoric acid.
- Formally derived from another compound by the replacement of one or more atoms of hydrogen with fluorine.

It is not synonymous with "fluoridated" so it definitely doesn't work.

In my defense, I just googled the word and went with the first thing it told me.

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Ha! You can find any wrong answer on the internet, if you look hard enough, or just if you visit Trumps' Twitter.

I think the distinction here is between lay usage, where the distinction is literally academic, and scientific usage, which demands a certain level of precision. If the speaker was a lay character I'd probably have agreed that no change was needed, but dentists tend to be trained in chemistry and fluorine is a big thing for them, so would be unlikely to make that mistake. It's a bit like how only an ophthalmologist is going to care that it's "pupil dilatation" not "pupil dilation" (which amusingly, other ophthalmologists from other regions will have heated disagreements with them about, and I tell you, there's not much in medicine nerdier than watching consultant ophthalmologist argue about a tiny spelling difference that even other doctors don't care about).

Hell, it's almost as bad as a bunch of internet gamers complaining that a fictional dentist character is using the word fluoridation correctly... Oh, hang on...
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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:09 pm

#1230 says: "...no longer has access to ingredients from @@HIS/HER@@ home country, or any other country for that matter". Surely I still have ingredients from my own country, at least?

While I'm at it, I'd prefer "illegally-imported", and a space snuck in at the beginning of option 1.

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TalAkMaChen
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New York Times Democracy

Postby TalAkMaChen » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:17 pm

War Dogs VIII had just issue 561 answered with option 1. The effect (and line) lift the ban on video games, even if they were not banned in the first place (like at War Dogs VIII - which has some other weird policies that don't really fit there like No Computer and Child Self-Rearing). From the option text it feels like "do not forbid if legal and allow if illegal" kind of talk by that speaker. Is that intentional?

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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:29 pm

Trotterdam wrote:#1230 says: "...no longer has access to ingredients from @@HIS/HER@@ home country, or any other country for that matter". Surely I still have ingredients from my own country, at least?

To me, "any other country" suggests any other country that is not @@NAME@@

While I'm at it, I'd prefer "illegally-imported", and a space snuck in at the beginning of option 1.

Style guides suggest you don't hyphenate an adverb ending "ly" unless it makes the meaning unclear, which this isn't.

The extra space has been removed.

TalAkMaChen wrote:War Dogs VIII had just issue 561 answered with option 1. The effect (and line) lift the ban on video games, even if they were not banned in the first place (like at War Dogs VIII - which has some other weird policies that don't really fit there like No Computer and Child Self-Rearing). From the option text it feels like "do not forbid if legal and allow if illegal" kind of talk by that speaker. Is that intentional?

It's possible to play a video game without a computer. You can play them on a handheld console, or via a TV. And Child Self-Raising doesn't seem to fit here either. There's nothing about this issue that says children can/cannot be abandoned to raise themselves until an unspecified age.

This issue is a reversal issue for nations that have banned video games.
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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:32 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Trotterdam wrote:#1230 says: "...no longer has access to ingredients from @@HIS/HER@@ home country, or any other country for that matter". Surely I still have ingredients from my own country, at least?
To me, "any other country" suggests any other country that is not @@NAME@@
I see how it could be interpreted that way, but it's still more intuitive to read "other country" as meaning "other than the last country mentioned in the sentence", which is "@@HIS/HER@@ home country". It was mentioned too recently to not be the first thing that most readers think of.

While technically it can be argued to be correct as it stands, I think it would be better to remove the ambiguity.

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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:42 am

Trotterdam wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:To me, "any other country" suggests any other country that is not @@NAME@@
I see how it could be interpreted that way, but it's still more intuitive to read "other country" as meaning "other than the last country mentioned in the sentence", which is "@@HIS/HER@@ home country". It was mentioned too recently to not be the first thing that most readers think of.

While technically it can be argued to be correct as it stands, I think it would be better to remove the ambiguity.

After talking with a couple of my colleagues, we agree that -- within the context of the issue -- it's clear enough to stand as-is.
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Marxist Germany
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:40 am

Issue 1015 option 1, refers to the non existent World Assembly Criminal Court, the correct committee currently is the World Assembly Judiciary Committee. Also, this option shouldnt be available for nations not in the WA, but im not sure if thats the case because I am in the WA on this nation.
Last edited by Marxist Germany on Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
Country represents RL views mostly. Not Marxist anymore.
Author of GA#461, and GA#470

Ex-delegate of The United Federations; citizen of 10000 Islands | Gaming User#0721(Discord)
RP name: Germany
The National Factbook (WIP)
Ambassador Klaus Schmidt
Political Compass
PolitiStates Result
Pro:Laissez-faire, Nationalism, Guns, Free speech, Christianity, Same-sex marriage, United Ireland.
Anti:Extreme Progressivism, Abortion, Socialism, Interventionism, Mass-migration.
A high school student aged 15 from Ireland, living in Co. Dublin. Interested in politics, gaming, and history.

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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:08 am

Marxist Germany wrote:Issue 1015 option 1, refers to the non existent World Assembly Criminal Court, the correct committee currently is the World Assembly Judiciary Committee. Also, this option shouldnt be available for nations not in the WA, but im not sure if thats the case because I am in the WA on this nation.

This issue has been amended. It no longer references the WA.
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