The Rejected Realms Embassy

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

I get it, I get it ;P

I’ll just go back to - I’m running becuase I was asked to by several long time TRR residents. I had intended prior to pick up an officer slot sometime during a normal election, and maybe run for del once I’d retired largely from R/D. Then this happened, and people seemed excited at the concept of me running, so I ran - and the reaction in TRR has been largely positive! And where it hasn’t been, it’s been focused entirely on running TRR topics of debate, like the vice del position. The only haters are out here.

Well, if that's true, that's bizarre. I wish TRR the best with its impending disaster. Don't mess with Lazarus or Osiris or there will be hell to pay. o/

[Vulturret]

Well, if that's true, that's bizarre. I wish TRR the best with its impending disaster. Don't mess with Lazarus or Osiris or there will be hell to pay. o/

That is the best image I have ever seen in my life. <3

[Tupelope]

smh 2 raider subversers teamin up to overthrow the precious fra oligarchy in trr

[Cornlind]

We should team up and KILL

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

(Image)

That is the best image I have ever seen in my life. <3

There’s a certain saying in a certain region that I like - “Don’t let the bastards push you down.”

[Queen Yuno]

Was meant to be a bit exasperated and facetious. Should have gone with Yuno instead.

Yuno in which region...? Because if you mean TEP, she also has shown much more dedication to TEP than you have to TRR.

I appreciate your ("compliment"?) a lot, but I'll admit that I wasn't that dedicated to TEP during the time I was first elected. (At most, I was just getting started working as a judge and soldier in TEP, which practically no one else in the region knew about because they were all busy roleplaying.) I got "lucky" because you nominated me (which, thank you for that, the idea hadn't crossed my mind) and I was running against 1 other candidate who was solely a roleplayer. (Obviously I'd win against a RPer who has zero gov experience.) Basically, I wasn't amazing prior to my election, and I'm saying you don't need to uphold impossible standards for "new delegates" like Souls.

Prior to that, I wasn't the most dedicated player, I only set aside all my foreign stuff AFTER I was elected for TEP.

What I'm saying here is that Soul's track record for The Black Hawks (he was the central figure who kept TBH alive for most of 2016 and 2017, during a time TBH was experience lulls in inactivity, he didn't quit for other regions, he remained a stable figure, and worked on TBH's stamps, API recruitment, recruitment/retention, raid organization planning, training, appointing/hiring new members for council positions, mentoring and giving advice, etc)

So you may say that, but Souls has shown more dedication to TBH than I have shown for TEP. Prior to that, my track record at being "an expert at reviving regions" was what helped me get elected for TEP. Likewise, Soul's track record and regional-building experience should give him a boost for TRR. (Disclaimer: I'm only saying that Souls is more dedicated than me because I've been TEP delegate for 1 year, and Souls has been TBH General or Colonel for approximately 5 years. I'm not saying who's more skilled, because my competitive streak wants me to be #1 superior.) And prior to my election, I've held positions across many, many regions, and contributed something *useful* to all of them. (So people can call me a "cosmopolitan" in a rude way, but I always contributed something helpful to each one of those regions and also learned from them, so I don't regret a single bit of my regional histories. My past experiences taught me how to run a region.)

The reason I'm not worried about TRR is because of the unique way it's set up; you can't exactly coup TRR because you can't eject Guardians. If Leader Souls doesn't work out, someone else can tart their way up to replace Souls without fear of banjection (although I doubt Souls is going to misbehave in TRR.) Or recall him. It's up to the citizens to choose.

[Kyorgia]

There’s a certain saying in a certain region that I like - “Don’t let the bastards push you down.”

"omg souls why are you using the motto Unibot made you userite subversive you"

[Unibot III]

I’m curious why you’re ignoring the question, Souls. Do you know who is behind the Zavea account? You spent time together in Black Mena Islands, according to Wayback Machine, Texas History logs, and your own testimony here.

Zavea, a puppet that re-applied to the WA, has been tarting in TRR since the exact date that the Predator bans were lifted - at one point even surpassing our Vice Delegate. Usually Zavea has been most active during delegate campaigns.

Firstly, the emphasis is mine. Also, come on Unibot, "our?" You are not a member of TRR's community. You really don't have any business questioning people in the Rejected Realms, seeing as you are no longer a relevant voter or politician in any region.

TRR’s Vice Delegate is my Vice Delegate. I have remained a faithful resident for years. When you find TRR’s eject button to remove me, you can get back to me on that. I’m sure if you look hard enough and ask Santa nicely you’ll find it somewhere.

Until then, as Ghandi once said, bbbbbbbbbllllllllooooooo *a rude, but distinctly stately noise*.

I’m very surprised to see a public official in TRR transparently uninterested in a matter of regional security. Perhaps less surprised given your imperialist background.

I’m also interested watching Souls continue to avoid the question. Do you know who Zavea is?

[Kyorgia]

Being stuck with you is not the same as you being in the community

[Cormactopia Prime]

Would it help if I ask about Zavea? Does it really matter who asks? Why would that have any bearing on answering the question?

You folks sure are going to great lengths to evade answering the question, and usually where there's smoke, there's fire.

[Tupelope]

I’m very surprised to see a public official in TRR transparently uninterested in a matter of regional security.

he aint a public official

[Felt Karpit]

Would it help if I ask about Zavea? Does it really matter who asks? Why would that have any bearing on answering the question?

You folks sure are going to great lengths to evade answering the question, and usually where there's smoke, there's fire.

Not to assume Souls' motives for ignoring, but for real, I'm super assuming. It looks like to me he was just ignoring it because it was Unibot, because you know it's Unibot, I thought we were supposed to do that.

[Tupelope]

Would it help if I ask about Zavea? Does it really matter who asks? Why would that have any bearing on answering the question?

You folks sure are going to great lengths to evade answering the question, and usually where there's smoke, there's fire.

Not to assume Souls' motives for ignoring, but for real, I'm super assuming. It looks like to me he was just ignoring it because it was Unibot, because you know it's Unibot, I thought we were supposed to do that.

wowe look another userite subverser comes to souls defences smh

[Cormactopia Prime]

Would it help if I ask about Zavea? Does it really matter who asks? Why would that have any bearing on answering the question?

You folks sure are going to great lengths to evade answering the question, and usually where there's smoke, there's fire.

Not to assume Souls' motives for ignoring, but for real, I'm super assuming. It looks like to me he was just ignoring it because it was Unibot, because you know it's Unibot, I thought we were supposed to do that.

I don't see the point in ignoring Unibot since he's allowed to use this forum. Regardless, I'm not Unibot, and I'd like to know about Zavea too. It's kind of odd that someone who's been tarting in TRR right up to around the endo count their Vice Delegate typically sits at is from the same region Souls and some other prominent raiders like Vandoosa spent time in. Surely Souls must know something about this Zavea person. It was a small region.

[Queen Yuno]

How would anyone know who's Zavea? That person has never posted on the RMB.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=activ ... tion.zavea

Edit: I see, you're saying this player and Souls shared a region in the past. But he's more likely to be an inactive issue-answerer who never communicates than someone we all actually know.
Still not a real threat because of TRR's game mechanisms.

[Ryccia]

If TRR was given a banject button, Unibot, you would be one of the first persons to be booted out. Or so I assume. It would be a rational choice, actually.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Would it help if I ask about Zavea? Does it really matter who asks? Why would that have any bearing on answering the question?

You folks sure are going to great lengths to evade answering the question, and usually where there's smoke, there's fire.

Hi, I vaguely remember Zavea, but he wasn’t exactly the most active in BMI when I was there. Folks like Susria, Lucius Valentine, Spode, Jeru, etc were the mainstays. It rings a bell, and you’ll find he is indeed on our old map as Hawaii, but I don’t ever recall him being anyone super consequential. Wish I could tell you more, but the forum is long dead, and a few of the regionmembers forced a refound specifically to clear the RMB in a period when J&K was inactive.

I can tell you, other than my experience in TSP which led to J&K inviting me Black Mesa Islands in the first place, I wasn’t active in any gameplay at all for the vast majority of my time in BMI. I was a role player, first in II, then in P2TM, the latter of which kept up sporadically through my early days in TEK until my group eventually crumbled apart (and I didn’t pick RP up again until fairly recently). I did meet “Ozoi” (vandy) there as a good friend of J&K and common face on the BMI rmb, but didnt interact with vandy in any GP level until...either TEK or Sicarius, where I wanted to work with Iwaki’s short-lived military. Me getting deeper into GP coincided with BMI entering a long quiet phase, and I only checked in now and then for a while. Somewhat recently, the residents who’d refounded it out from under J&K (who, though delegate, had controlled the founder in relative secrecy for a while since the founder quit the game) accidentally let the founder CTE, at which point Vandy nabbed it for old time’s sake and I moved my original BMI puppets back in + restored a classic WFE. A few of the old members hang out in Ygg, where vandy is Del and I keep one of my favorite puppets, and the rest...well, the ones that haven’t CTE’d, I haven’t kept up with.

It’s an interesting conspiracy you have there, but I’ve got no better idea who it might “really be” or what their goals are than you do. Sorry.

[Unibot III]

Would it help if I ask about Zavea? Does it really matter who asks? Why would that have any bearing on answering the question?

You folks sure are going to great lengths to evade answering the question, and usually where there's smoke, there's fire.

Hi, I vaguely remember Zavea, but he wasn’t exactly the most active in BMI when I was there. Folks like Susria, Lucius Valentine, Spode, Jeru, etc were the mainstays. It rings a bell, and you’ll find he is indeed on our old map as Hawaii, but I don’t ever recall him being anyone super consequential. Wish I could tell you more, but the forum is long dead, and a few of the regionmembers forced a refound specifically to clear the RMB in a period when J&K was inactive.

I can tell you, other than my experience in TSP which led to J&K inviting me Black Mesa Islands in the first place, I wasn’t active in any gameplay at all for the vast majority of my time in BMI. I was a role player, first in II, then in P2TM, the latter of which kept up sporadically through my early days in TEK until my group eventually crumbled apart (and I didn’t pick RP up again until fairly recently). I did meet “Ozoi” (vandy) there as a good friend of J&K and common face on the BMI rmb, but didnt interact with vandy in any GP level until...either TEK or Sicarius, where I wanted to work with Iwaki’s short-lived military. Me getting deeper into GP coincided with BMI entering a long quiet phase, and I only checked in now and then for a while. Somewhat recently, the residents who’d refounded it out from under J&K (who, though delegate, had controlled the founder in relative secrecy for a while since the founder quit the game) accidentally let the founder CTE, at which point Vandy nabbed it for old time’s sake and I moved my original BMI puppets back in + restored a classic WFE. A few of the old members hang out in Ygg, where vandy is Del and I keep one of my favorite puppets, and the rest...well, the ones that haven’t CTE’d, I haven’t kept up with.

It’s an interesting conspiracy you have there, but I’ve got no better idea who it might “really be” or what their goals are than you do. Sorry.

Thanks for your cooperation on this matter, Souls. I appreciate the answer. I hope we can both agree that any future TRR delegate should speak honestly about questions regarding TRR’s security. I’ll point out though that this is not a conspiracy - Zavea, a former BMI resident, has been a latent tarting threat to the delegacy for months and is almost surely one of the handful individuals that recieved a three month Predator ban (given the date of their rentry to the WA.) I don’t think it was an unfair question to ask whether you, as a former BMI resident yourself and a prominent invader, knew which invader was behind the Zavea account.

And I appreciate all of the well wishes here. To you, I say Happy Rejectmas.

[Feux]

If he wins, they pile him, and they actively decide to pull everything up, does everyone else have the means to stop something like that?

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Unless y’all are seeing something I’m not, I think y’all are overreacting about it in general too. Unless there’s better records somewhere, all NS history shows is that the WA join happened between June 25 and July 2 - though I suppose you could go try and find the individual nation dumps to check. They were a BMI resident before I was, when vandy was barely in GP and the only other tie among over a hundred BMI members was J&K in the defender side of things. They joined WA in the alt BMI region made for refound #1 occurring, and were booted from it when the refound was finished. My bet is they’d soured on the infighting and just chose to stay in TRR at that point. Who would it even be? Pretty sure I’ve seen the WA of everyone who had a 3 month ban.

[Vulturret-]

TRR’s Vice Delegate is my Vice Delegate.

This is categorically incorrect. TRR's Vice Delegate is in no way yours. You are not a Citizen. You do not have any say in how our government operates, nor is our government accountable to you. You are merely a disgruntled ex-Delegate that we cannot get rid of due to game mechanics. You can trust that I speak from the general consensus of our Citizenry when I say that we'd rather not have you in our region.

I have remained a faithful resident for years. When you find TRR’s eject button to remove me, you can get back to me on that. I’m sure if you look hard enough and ask Santa nicely you’ll find it somewhere.

I am not going to dignify this comment with a response.

I’m very surprised to see a public official in TRR transparently uninterested in a matter of regional security. Perhaps less surprised given your imperialist background.

You are obviously incredibly misinformed, given that I am not a)a public official in TRR or b)"uninterested in a manner of regional security." I care more about the security of the Rejected Realms than you could ever dream to. "My Imperialist background" has nothing to do with this, to suggest that I do not care about TRR or its security is both incorrect and deeply hurtful. You should strongly reconsider your criticism of someone who has contributed to the Rejected Realms in a consistently positive manner.

[Cormactopia Prime]

You are merely a disgruntled ex-Delegate that we cannot get rid of due to game mechanics. You can trust that I speak from the general consensus of our Citizenry when I say that we'd rather not have you in our region.

to suggest that I do not care about TRR or its security is both incorrect and deeply hurtful. You should strongly reconsider your criticism of someone who has contributed to the Rejected Realms in a consistently positive manner.

I trust by highlighting just the relevant sentences, the hypocrisy will be obvious to you and everyone else.

[Vulturret-]

You are merely a disgruntled ex-Delegate that we cannot get rid of due to game mechanics. You can trust that I speak from the general consensus of our Citizenry when I say that we'd rather not have you in our region.

to suggest that I do not care about TRR or its security is both incorrect and deeply hurtful. You should strongly reconsider your criticism of someone who has contributed to the Rejected Realms in a consistently positive manner.

I trust by highlighting just the relevant sentences, the hypocrisy will be obvious to you and everyone else.

If there is any hypocrisy (I'm going to hazard that there isn't), it's not apparent to me. I have consistently "contributed to the Rejected Realms in a positive manner." I've never engaged in actions against its Government or people, etc. There is (at least until you explain your unfounded theories) absolutely no hypocrisy.

[The Church of Satan]

This is categorically incorrect. TRR's Vice Delegate is in no way yours. You are not a Citizen. You do not have any say in how our government operates, nor is our government accountable to you. You are merely a disgruntled ex-Delegate that we cannot get rid of due to game mechanics. You can trust that I speak from the general consensus of our Citizenry when I say that we'd rather not have you in our region.

Actually in the strictest game mechanics perspective I am his vice-delegate as well as any other resident of TRR. Additionally the government doesn't disregard non-citizens. The residents are equally as important as the citizens are for better or worse. Uni is a resident of the region and the only person who can change is that Uni himself. Even though he is strictly forbidden from participating in the government and all offsite activities his in-game residency is unavoidable. As a resident Uni has the same civil rights as you despite the fact that many people hate the idea.

And the hypocrisy part is because Uni has also contributed to TRR in a positive manner. Vastly more than you have. Yes he's exiled from the region but before then he'd done a lot for the region.

[Unibot III]

TRR’s Vice Delegate is my Vice Delegate.

This is categorically incorrect. TRR's Vice Delegate is in no way yours. You are not a Citizen. You do not have any say in how our government operates, nor is our government accountable to you. You are merely a disgruntled ex-Delegate that we cannot get rid of due to game mechanics. You can trust that I speak from the general consensus of our Citizenry when I say that we'd rather not have you in our region.

I have remained a faithful resident for years. When you find TRR’s eject button to remove me, you can get back to me on that. I’m sure if you look hard enough and ask Santa nicely you’ll find it somewhere.

I am not going to dignify this comment with a response.

I’m very surprised to see a public official in TRR transparently uninterested in a matter of regional security. Perhaps less surprised given your imperialist background.

You are obviously incredibly misinformed, given that I am not a)a public official in TRR or b)"uninterested in a manner of regional security." I care more about the security of the Rejected Realms than you could ever dream to. "My Imperialist background" has nothing to do with this, to suggest that I do not care about TRR or its security is both incorrect and deeply hurtful. You should strongly reconsider your criticism of someone who has contributed to the Rejected Realms in a consistently positive manner.

I am not a disgruntled ex-delegate. I am an ex-delegate. I don’t harbour any ill will to TRR.

The Vice Delegate is a regional position, it applies to the region as a whole. Non-citizens are still telegrammed and advised to endorse their Vice Delegate.

Don’t lecture me about caring about TRR’s security. I’m not buying the act from someone who just brushed aside concerns; I’ve always put TRR’s security first. I didn’t even feel comfortable serving as Delegate until I was assured that I wouldn’t put TRR in jeopardy. I tarted every day as Delegate. I’ve always felt a grave responsibility to remain vigilant.

As for the public official comment, I had thought you were still serving as speaker.