Should raiding be against the rules?

[Ashotu two]

all of us know raiding.
If you dont know, imagine this.

A bunch of WA nations come into your region, and endorse a part of their group, that nation becomes WA delegate.
They abuse their power as WA delegate, and claim your region as theirs.

Weaker regions are consumed.
We lock our regions hoping that they cant break in.
We try to call for help, but some of us cant be saved

It may be fun for the Raiders, but its the worst part of NS.

I request that its against NS tos to raid.

If you mods cant help us, then we will help this rule come into the game.

Full war against raider regions
Chaos to stop the evil called "Raiding"

So please help us and make raiding illegal!

[Untecna]

It couldn't be illegal unless we destroy the WA as a function of the site, which would piss many more people off.

[Ashotu two]

It couldn't be illegal unless we destroy the WA as a function of the site, which would piss many more people off.

Or we could just keep the parts we like, and say that raiding against TOS

[Jewish Underground State]

No.

If your region got tag raided it’s easy to clean up.

[Ashotu two]

No.

If your region got tag raided it’s easy to clean up.

But what if the Raiders are too strong?

[Jewish Underground State]

No.

If your region got tag raided it’s easy to clean up.

But what if the Raiders are too strong?

Do you even know how tag raiding works?

They raid then they leave it’s easy to clean up. Lily has a whole dispatch on it.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1748883

[Untecna]

It couldn't be illegal unless we destroy the WA as a function of the site, which would piss many more people off.

Or we could just keep the parts we like, and say that raiding against TOS

...so, you're ignoring what I said. Good to know.

[The Church of Satan]

Raiding is the result of a built-in feature of the game: the World Assembly. It's well within the rules of NationStates.

[Minskiev]

I'm against making raiding illegal for two main reasons.

One, if you *really* don't want to be raided, just have a non-executive delegacy.

Two, it's a lot more fun to compete with raiders and defeat them directly. If you don't like what raiders do, why not join a defender military? The Rejected Realms Army is always looking for new recruits

[The Orwell Society]

Hell no

[Ashotu two]

Then I will have to save ns myself!

Raiding is trash that hurts regions and nations.

[Malkaestan]

Raiding is fundamental to the game.

[Jewish Underground State]

Then I will have to save ns myself!

Raiding is trash that hurts regions and nations.

But it’s so easy to prevent.

[Asucki]

As much as I dislike the R/D and WA sides of this game, I'd be against removing them. A lot of people think they're fun, and there's nothing wrong with that. To remove them would remove a large chunk of the playerbase for no real reason. You can easily prevent raiding by adding a password and/or removing executive status from the World Assembly Delegate. I get that you've been raided before and that doesn't help your opinion of raiders, but most of them are actually fine people. Besides, if you really need help, defenders and liberators would probably help you out if you asked nicely.

[DeMoNiC sAtAn]

Then I will have to save ns myself!

Raiding is trash that hurts regions and nations.

There have always been steps people can take to prevent raids and recover from them. Raiding is just part of having a WA in NS.

[Ashotu two]

Then I will have to save ns myself!

Raiding is trash that hurts regions and nations.

But it’s so easy to prevent.

Not.
New regions are consumed easily, and stronger regions could be raided with a insane amount of Raiders.

[Harjanika]

Then I will have to save ns myself!

Raiding is trash that hurts regions and nations.

There are already organizations dedicated to stopping raiders =D Ever heard of TITO?

[Ashotu two]

As much as I dislike the R/D and WA sides of this game, I'd be against removing them. A lot of people think they're fun, and there's nothing wrong with that. To remove them would remove a large chunk of the playerbase for no real reason. You can easily prevent raiding by adding a password and/or removing executive status from the World Assembly Delegate. I get that you've been raided before and that doesn't help your opinion of raiders, but most of them are actually fine people. Besides, if you really need help, defenders and liberators would probably help you out if you asked nicely.

Raiders are not good people if they do this just for fun.

I dont care if it will remove some of the fun, just find some way to stop it for good.

[Untecna]

But it’s so easy to prevent.

Not.
New regions are consumed easily, and stronger regions could be raided with a insane amount of Raiders.

If you don't have an executive delegate, you can't get raided*.

*Besides founders CTEing, but they can be revived (or members can move to a newer region).

[Catalonia 2070 RP]

As much as I dislike the R/D and WA sides of this game, I'd be against removing them. A lot of people think they're fun, and there's nothing wrong with that. To remove them would remove a large chunk of the playerbase for no real reason. You can easily prevent raiding by adding a password and/or removing executive status from the World Assembly Delegate. I get that you've been raided before and that doesn't help your opinion of raiders, but most of them are actually fine people. Besides, if you really need help, defenders and liberators would probably help you out if you asked nicely.

Raiders are not good people if they do this just for fun.

I dont care if it will remove some of the fun, just find some way to stop it for good.

You literally can. If you create a region, you can just remove executive status from the WA delegate. Its that easy. You can just completely opt out of that whole side of the game.

[Katganistan]

Banning raiding is never going to happen. That it's been an integral part of the game for twenty years should be an indicator of this.

It's largely because of the raiding game that the founder and their designated officers have so much power in passwording, ejecting, and banning individuals from their region. Those tools came later to provide some relief and security to those founders/regions who want to be divorced from the raiding game.

However, it's important to make sure that the tools are only delegated to people you trust absolutely, because more than one invasion has been made by a trusted lieutenant opening the way for the raid.

My own private region does not have an executive delegate.

I understand the frustration. When I first joined the game, my little corner of the NSverse was raided. I did not like it. You guys have much more protection against it than I did twenty years ago.

[Harjanika]

I'm against making raiding illegal for two main reasons.

One, if you *really* don't want to be raided, just have a non-executive delegacy.

Two, it's a lot more fun to compete with raiders and defeat them directly. If you don't like what raiders do, why not join a defender military? The Rejected Realms Army is always looking for new recruits

Eyyyy! How are you Minskiev?

[Asucki]

Raiders are not good people if they do this just for fun.

I dont care if it will remove some of the fun, just find some way to stop it for good.

I and several others in this thread have already provided a way to completely stop raids in your region by setting a password or removing powers from the World Assembly Delegate. It is totally and entirely impossible for somebody to raid an active region if the Delegate doesn't have Executive authority.

[Ashotu two]

Banning raiding is never going to happen. That it's been an integral part of the game for twenty years should be an indicator of this.

It's largely because of the raiding game that the founder and their designated officers have so much power in passwording, ejecting, and banning individuals from their region. Those tools came later to provide some relief and security to those founders/regions who want to be divorced from the raiding game.

However, it's important to make sure that the tools are only delegated to people you trust absolutely, because more than one invasion has been made by a trusted lieutenant opening the way for the raid.

Fine. I will do this myself if I have to

[Untecna]

The fact that OP can't read and understand the simple solution in front of him proves this is not worth our time to entertain further.