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Postby Mauroa » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:08 am

The Church of Satan wrote:Since this is created, sponsored, and promoted by Layem, I have every reason to disregard their bootleg Civil Defense Siren. To Layem and their founder; you were buddies with Sanctum so that's the only reason I need to ignore everything you said. You know what Sanctum stood for. You know it was an idea that put players in danger. So you have zero credibility.


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Postby WayNeacTia » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:46 am

Mauroa wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:Since this is created, sponsored, and promoted by Layem, I have every reason to disregard their bootleg Civil Defense Siren. To Layem and their founder; you were buddies with Sanctum so that's the only reason I need to ignore everything you said. You know what Sanctum stood for. You know it was an idea that put players in danger. So you have zero credibility.


"I cant come up with an argument so damn you Layem you were friends with Sanctum this has zero credibility!!!!"

What more possible reason is needed?
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Upper Nan
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Postby Upper Nan » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:14 am

Personally, I think this blatant slander of various regions is utterly hilarious.

Fifth Empire: Not slanderous, but I went over to their RMB and saw them literally laughing about this (not that I can blame them). They don't care that they're on this list (because putting them there does nothing) and, in fact, probably just makes them more visible.

The Communist Bloc: You clearly don't understand what the words "leftist" and "communist" mean. There are multiple varieties of communism, it's not just Marxism-Leninism. TCB itself allows any variety of socialists, not just the commies (and among the commies, there are plenty of anti-Stalinists). They do raid right-wing regions over their political views, but that's part of the game. I don't agree with it, either, but it doesn't make them evil--it's just a game, so who cares?

Greater Hindu Empire: Don't know anything about them, but they don't seem overtly bad. What you said of them may be true, but without evidence it's just your word against theirs.

The Leftist Assembly: Literally makes even less sense than TCB. TLA very much leans towards libertarian socialism, so equating them with Soviet-style authoritarian communists is just ignorant. The communists in their region are very much of the anarchist variety (itself not exactly a "clean" ideology--as if any such thing could even exist--but lumping them in with the Stalinists in TCB is just ignorant).

Raxulan Empire: This one probably makes the least sense. Nothing about them is "radical" or "extremist" in any way. This just seems like a straight-up potshot.

Antifa: See above comments on TCB.

NSLeft: See both TCB and TLA.

UFWA: Also one of the only ones that's not outright slanderous, but again, putting them on some kind of "bad guy" list does nothing other than raise their notoriety.

Furthermore, what makes these regions' ideologies any more dangerous than your own? Just that you say so?

I also feel the need to point out the hypocrisy of hoping that "new nations can find a place that promotes an environment for all ideologies [emphasis added]" while creating what is practically a blacklist of regions whose ideologies you don't like (meanwhile, your own region also claims to support "freedom of expression" and "welcomes" all nations "regardless of ideological alignment"). How is this logically consistent?
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Postby Ukcross » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:26 am

this is just a game, my country may be authoritarian but doesn't mean i like authoritarianism in the real world.

But yes, Regions that promote Terrible ideals are of course, terrible.
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Postby United Calanworie » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:08 pm

Upper Nan wrote:How is this logically consistent?

It's not, but it's produced by Layem, a region known for dogshit takes and just trying to be a thorn in the side of GP in general, which is why this thread exists. It has nothing to do with Layem actually caring about these regions and everything to do with being annoying.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:20 pm

Mauroa wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:Since this is created, sponsored, and promoted by Layem, I have every reason to disregard their bootleg Civil Defense Siren. To Layem and their founder; you were buddies with Sanctum so that's the only reason I need to ignore everything you said. You know what Sanctum stood for. You know it was an idea that put players in danger. So you have zero credibility.


"I cant come up with an argument so damn you Layem you were friends with Sanctum this has zero credibility!!!!"

By buddying up with Sanctum, they condoned everything Sanctum stood for. That's all the argument anyone needs. Sanctum stood for things that'd make someone Delete-on-Sight if they did it on this website.
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Australiem
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Postby Australiem » Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:39 pm

bruh

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Postby United Republic Empire » Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:29 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Mauroa wrote:
"I cant come up with an argument so damn you Layem you were friends with Sanctum this has zero credibility!!!!"

By buddying up with Sanctum, they condoned everything Sanctum stood for. That's all the argument anyone needs. Sanctum stood for things that'd make someone Delete-on-Sight if they did it on this website.


https://www.nationstates.net/page=boney ... archdeacon

Sedgistan wrote:As a result of their persistent and serious rules violations, the player known as Puetavisa/Affray has been declared as Delete-on-Sight and is therefore permanently banned from NationStates. All their nations have been deleted and any nations they attempt to create in the future will be deleted.


I mean Affray is considered DOS so you're point holds up pretty well as per the highlighted part I'm responding to.

@Maur you really shouldn't be surprised, you had to of known you were going to get backlash for making a discount dollar general brand of MadJack's dispatch. I get it though, you're enthusiasm is in the right place but being buddies with Affray and DC didn't do your region any favors and only works against you in trying to make your dispatch out to be serious and not seen as a joke dispatch.

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Postby Mauroa » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:26 pm

United Republic Empire wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:By buddying up with Sanctum, they condoned everything Sanctum stood for. That's all the argument anyone needs. Sanctum stood for things that'd make someone Delete-on-Sight if they did it on this website.


https://www.nationstates.net/page=boney ... archdeacon

Sedgistan wrote:As a result of their persistent and serious rules violations, the player known as Puetavisa/Affray has been declared as Delete-on-Sight and is therefore permanently banned from NationStates. All their nations have been deleted and any nations they attempt to create in the future will be deleted.


I mean Affray is considered DOS so you're point holds up pretty well as per the highlighted part I'm responding to.

@Maur you really shouldn't be surprised, you had to of known you were going to get backlash for making a discount dollar general brand of MadJack's dispatch. I get it though, you're enthusiasm is in the right place but being buddies with Affray and DC didn't do your region any favors and only works against you in trying to make your dispatch out to be serious and not seen as a joke dispatch.


Oh no a majority leftist site doesn't like me calling out the lefitsts! Fact is, the dispatch has 700 reads, about on par even more than the reads that the top dispatches of get. Could care less, this is a movement to end communism/fascism on Nationstates.
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Australiem
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Postby Australiem » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:27 pm

Mauroa wrote:Oh no a majority leftist site doesn't like me calling out the lefitsts! Fact is, the dispatch has 700 reads, about on par even more than the reads that the top dispatches of get. Could care less, this is a movement to end communism/fascism on Nationstates.




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Postby Korwin » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:37 pm

What have you done to combat radical anti-Queer ideology? Like Cultural Christianism, National Socialism, Mormonists, PedoConservatism, and Trumpism?

Right to Life, Libertatem, Nova Sanctum, Dixie, and Christian Nations Union must be added to the list.

These regions are a cesspool of degenerate anti-Queer behavior.
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Postby The Aber » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:38 pm

Mauroa wrote:
United Republic Empire wrote:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=boney ... archdeacon



I mean Affray is considered DOS so you're point holds up pretty well as per the highlighted part I'm responding to.

@Maur you really shouldn't be surprised, you had to of known you were going to get backlash for making a discount dollar general brand of MadJack's dispatch. I get it though, you're enthusiasm is in the right place but being buddies with Affray and DC didn't do your region any favors and only works against you in trying to make your dispatch out to be serious and not seen as a joke dispatch.


Oh no a majority leftist site doesn't like me calling out the lefitsts! Fact is, the dispatch has 700 reads, about on par even more than the reads that the top dispatches of get. Could care less, this is a movement to end communism/fascism on Nationstates.


Unfortunately, when big piece of shit gets killed off by what would later be found to be bigger pieces of shit, the latter is considered a hero, and subsequently acquired of all of the time rather fucked up things they do. That's why leftists are so smug, why they can get away with a lot of things, because people in this day and age view the communists and anarchists as the hero everybody needs despite plenty of evidence to clearly suggest otherwise.
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Postby Australiem » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:44 pm

Korwin wrote:What have you done to combat radical anti-Queer ideology? Like Cultural Christianism, National Socialism, Mormonists, PedoConservatism, and Trumpism?

Right to Life, Libertatem, Nova Sanctum, Dixie, and Christian Nations Union must be added to the list.

These regions are a cesspool of degenerate anti-Queer behavior.


OK, I understand where you're coming from on some of those, but pedoconservatism? What the actual fuck is pedoconservatism? Does it preserve views on pedophilia because I'm sure most first-world countries have had a law prohibiting it for far longer than people in this day and age have been alive? So I don't see anyone conserving any practise for pedophilia. Especially in the other groups you listed.

Also, radical anti-queer is based mate. Go with the right side, not the bad side.
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Postby Untecna » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:46 pm

To the above:

Its called the Republican Party.

But thats a discussion for General.
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Postby Australiem » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:49 pm

Untecna wrote:To the above:

Its called the Republican Party.

But that's a discussion for General.



All I am gonna say is, How in anyway are they conserving pedophilia. If they wanted that they would put in their policies to bring down the age of consent and by my readings conservatives would either want the age of consent for things higher or even banned (The thing not the age of consent). Not brought down or abolished.
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Postby Untecna » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:53 pm

Australiem wrote:
Untecna wrote:To the above:

Its called the Republican Party.

But that's a discussion for General.



All I am gonna say is, How in anyway are they conserving pedophilia. If they wanted that they would put in their policies to bring down the age of consent and by my readings conservatives would either want the age of consent for things higher or even banned (The thing no the age of consent). Not brought down or abolished.

Again, that's a discussion for the American Politics Thread.
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Australiem
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Postby Australiem » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:55 pm

Man you can't just leave me hanging like this.

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Postby Untecna » Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:00 pm

Australiem wrote:Man you can't just leave me hanging like this.

I actually don't want to be threadjacking, but y'know, just act like I'm being rude...
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Postby The Church of Satan » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:31 pm

Your words (and dispatch) count for very little when you consider Sanctum's sponsorship and promotion of DC's "Whitelist Campaign" which was aimed at normalizing the behavior and actions of players such as DC and 94 Block. We didn't forget that, ya know.
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Postby Mauroa » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:32 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:Your words (and dispatch) count for very little when you consider Sanctum's sponsorship and promotion of DC's "Whitelist Campaign" which was aimed at normalizing the behavior and actions of players such as DC and 94 Block. We didn't forget that, ya know.


Dont care I'm not Sanctum. Take it up with DC lol
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Postby The Church of Satan » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:36 pm

Mauroa wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:Your words (and dispatch) count for very little when you consider Sanctum's sponsorship and promotion of DC's "Whitelist Campaign" which was aimed at normalizing the behavior and actions of players such as DC and 94 Block. We didn't forget that, ya know.


Dont care I'm not Sanctum. Take it up with DC lol

Your region condoned it by maintaining an embassy with them.
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Postby Goobergunchia » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:12 pm

Australiem wrote:OK, I understand where you're coming from on some of those, but pedoconservatism? What the actual fuck is pedoconservatism? Does it preserve views on pedophilia because I'm sure most first-world countries have had a law prohibiting it for far longer than people in this day and age have been alive? So I don't see anyone conserving any practise for pedophilia. Especially in the other groups you listed.

Also, radical anti-queer is based mate. Go with the right side, not the bad side.

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Postby Mauroa » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:48 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Mauroa wrote:
Dont care I'm not Sanctum. Take it up with DC lol

Your region condoned it by maintaining an embassy with them.


Don't care I'm not Sanctum. Go talk to them about it and stop bringing up irrelevant information this is a forum about the ADB.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:44 am

Mauroa wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:Your region condoned it by maintaining an embassy with them.


Don't care I'm not Sanctum. Go talk to them about it and stop bringing up irrelevant information this is a forum about the ADB.

This entire thread is nothing more than attention grabbing irrelevance…….
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Postby Mauroa » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:45 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Mauroa wrote:
Don't care I'm not Sanctum. Go talk to them about it and stop bringing up irrelevant information this is a forum about the ADB.

This entire thread is nothing more than attention grabbing irrelevance…….


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