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Democratic Socialists

Postby REver-lutionary Souls » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:33 pm

Mauroa wrote:Remember what your ancestors fought for!


My ancestors are smiling at me, tyrant. Can you say the same?

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Postby Mauroa » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:54 pm

Keep in mind 'yall that the ADB is not listed by dangerous to least dangerous, lmao. That's just numbering that I added. Thanks for the support especially from my defender buds.

Xatu the Great wrote:Clearly an attempt to poison the well from the founder of a region that has embassies with regions on the civil defense siren, and that may very well come close to deserving to be on the CDS. Disgraceful


Obviously the CDS has inspired this list, no one denies that. But the CDS only focuses on dangerous right wing regions, instead of the left wing ones. This is a neutral list and hopefully can/will replace the CDS.

Xatu the Great wrote:Frankly I'm surprised Layem hasn't been added to the civil defense siren yet


The Confederacy of Layem doesn't target regions based on ideology, religion, social status, etc. unlike Antifa and the NSLeft crowd. See Sanctum, who had one fascist from Genua. One person doesn't represent an entire region.

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Xatu the Great wrote:Frankly I'm surprised Layem hasn't been added to the civil defense siren yet

Having embassies with regions on the CDS while producing Walmart-brand CDS might make it fait accompli.


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The Aber wrote:Nice mental gymnastics and shameless denial, folks.


Someone actually said the words 'real communism has never been tried'. Actually hilarious.

Independent Cossack Ukraine wrote:While we shouldn't block regions, it does help to know who to avoid. I agree with your views. Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Despotism of all types deserves a one-way ticket to Hell.


One of the only quotes on this forum that supports the content of the list, thank you. Rest assure there have been several telegrams and DMs on discord commemorating this list trying to avoid the wrath of the nice folks here on NSGP :P

Kavagrad wrote:Lol, lmao


It's time someone called out the hypocrisy of the CDS. People shouldn't be allowed to promote a dangerous ideology in such a heinous way.

Nepleslia wrote:Based and redpilled, though I’d suggest making it automated in a fashion akin to the Civil Defense Siren.


Noted, thank you.

Vleerian wrote:I'd like to propose for the addition of Confederacy of Layem, seeing as it is a region whose most important elected gameside position (delegate) is arbitrarily decided by the founder as per it's constitution.


Pettiness such as this quote only shows the effect that the ADB already has on these authoritarian regions. They resort to jokes and trolls (not accusing anyone in specific mods) which only show that the ADB is needed and indeed correct.
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby The Grand Fifth Imperium » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:01 pm

If we get rid of tyrants, wouldn't that make this game kinda lame? Like seriously, you're looking at other peoples nations:

"Oh, a capitalist democracy, how nice."

The next one

"Oh, a capitalist republic, how nice."

After that

"Oh, a capitalist democratic republic, how nice."

And after that

"Oh, a... nother capitalist republic."

And yet again

"Whoopee— yet another capitalist democracy."

You should get the point now.

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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:12 pm

Mauroa wrote: Thanks for the support especially from my defender buds.

:rofl: Defender buds? Care to elaborate on just what actual defender organization would even acknowledge your existence, let alone be your “bud”?
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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Postby Mauroa » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:14 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Mauroa wrote: Thanks for the support especially from my defender buds.

:rofl: Defender buds? Care to elaborate on just what actual defender organization would even acknowledge your existence, let alone be your “bud”?


I think you'd know by now lmao
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby The Orwell Society » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:15 pm

Be gone, vile libertarians!

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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Vleerian » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:21 pm

Mauroa wrote:Pettiness such as this quote only shows the effect that the ADB already has on these authoritarian regions. They resort to jokes and trolls (not accusing anyone in specific mods) which only show that the ADB is needed and indeed correct.

Would you mind pointing in the direction of which of those authoritarian region I belong to exactly? It would have been quite silly of you to accuse somebody with no affiliation to any of the regions on your list of 'resorting' to 'jokes and trolling' if they were not in an authoritarian region, after all.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby New Astri » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:25 pm

i guess since this failed to even remotely grab nsleft's attention, let alone bother it (if i had a quarter for every time tcb was compared to authoritarians or fascists by rightwingers...), op's new strat is to try pissing off defenders with the comparison instead? the whole "x random group are actually the REAL fash" thing altright & fash regions keep doing these days is getting trite fast. i dunno why people still comment on layem threads, i think the funniest response anyone could give would be No response
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Vikanias » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:27 pm

Wallowis wrote:Communism isn't authoritarian, it literally advocates for the abolishment of the state. You mean '"socialist"


The methods of getting that can be authoritarian though.
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Postby Mauroa » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:36 pm

New Astri wrote:i guess since this failed to even remotely grab nsleft's attention, let alone bother it (if i had a quarter for every time tcb was compared to authoritarians or fascists by rightwingers...), op's new strat is to try pissing off defenders with the comparison instead? the whole "x random group are actually the REAL fash" thing altright & fash regions keep doing these days is getting trite fast. i dunno why people still comment on layem threads, i think the funniest response anyone could give would be No response


Layem has been slowly aligning itself with defenderism regarding this conflict with BoM's harassement of Stargate/TNP. I have a few defender friends (keeping it vague) and got into a conversation with them about how dangerous some of the Communist/Authoritarian regions are. Hence why I said "defender buddies", meanwhile this dispatch has nothing to do with defenders. I don't want to mention names because I know how NSGP is with harassment.

I'm a little hurt you think this failed :( I've gotten a surprisingly good amount of feedback and this isn't an "attention grab" from Communist/Authoritarian regions, in fact it's the opposite. I hope this list wakes some people up.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:55 pm

Mauroa wrote:I'm a little hurt you think this failed :( I've gotten a surprisingly good amount of feedback and this isn't an "attention grab" from Communist/Authoritarian regions, in fact it's the opposite. I hope this list wakes some people up.

I guess any attention no matter how bad it is, in an attention grab is something…..
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

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Postby Emodea » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:18 pm

Mauroa wrote:Layem has been slowly aligning itself with defenderism regarding this conflict with BoM's harassement of Stargate/TNP.

Lol.

Mauroa wrote:I have a few defender friends (keeping it vague)

Need some names here, bud.
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Postby The Aber » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:20 pm

Emodea wrote:
Mauroa wrote:Layem has been slowly aligning itself with defenderism regarding this conflict with BoM's harassement of Stargate/TNP.

Lol.

Mauroa wrote:I have a few defender friends (keeping it vague)

Need some names here, bud.


Me, for instance.
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Postby Mauroa » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:25 pm

Emodea wrote:
Mauroa wrote:Layem has been slowly aligning itself with defenderism regarding this conflict with BoM's harassement of Stargate/TNP.

Lol.

Mauroa wrote:I have a few defender friends (keeping it vague)

Need some names here, bud.


Because you called me bud I wont be giving you those names. Sorry, sport.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:28 pm

Emodea wrote:
Mauroa wrote:Layem has been slowly aligning itself with defenderism regarding this conflict with BoM's harassement of Stargate/TNP.

Lol.

Mauroa wrote:I have a few defender friends (keeping it vague)

Need some names here, bud.

See the problem with this, is that you can’t simply make people up. They start naming names, people are going to start talking to other people and the web of lies goes up in a fireball……

The Aber wrote:Me, for instance.

And you are?

Mauroa wrote:Because you called be bud I wont be giving you those names. Sorry, sport.

Of course you can’t. We are just supposed to take your word for it huh? You do realize that anyone who has to preface things “this is not an attention grab” and refuses to provide any information that lends the smallest crumb of credence to their statement, is conducting an attention grab. The US has a President that did it for four years. We can all see through the bullshit at this point.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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Postby Platoon of Peace » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:29 pm

Mauroa wrote:
Emodea wrote:Lol.


Need some names here, bud.


Because you called me bud I wont be giving you those names. Sorry, sport.

i get the feeling you wouldnt be giving names if he called you "gods chosen messenger on earth" or something like that.
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Well Well, what do we got here

Postby Gronsted » Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:15 pm

Always happy to get noticed and broadcasted from you guys, that helps attracting new Members to our Communities^^
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Refuge Isle » Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:40 pm

Mauroa wrote:I'm a little hurt you think this failed :( I've gotten a surprisingly good amount of feedback

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Postby Mauroa » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:17 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Emodea wrote:Lol.


Need some names here, bud.

See the problem with this, is that you can’t simply make people up. They start naming names, people are going to start talking to other people and the web of lies goes up in a fireball……

The Aber wrote:Me, for instance.

And you are?

Mauroa wrote:Because you called be bud I wont be giving you those names. Sorry, sport.

Of course you can’t. We are just supposed to take your word for it huh? You do realize that anyone who has to preface things “this is not an attention grab” and refuses to provide any information that lends the smallest crumb of credence to their statement, is conducting an attention grab. The US has a President that did it for four years. We can all see through the bullshit at this point.


I'm so confused as to why everyone is fixated on this one small part that has nothing to do with the ADB. And by insulting me you're not going to get me to reveal the names of literally 3 people so you can go and harass them.
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Postby Mauroa » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:18 am

Platoon of Peace wrote:
Mauroa wrote:
Because you called me bud I wont be giving you those names. Sorry, sport.

i get the feeling you wouldnt be giving names if he called you "gods chosen messenger on earth" or something like that.


That was kind of the joke :P
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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:53 am

Mauroa wrote:And by insulting me you're not going to get me to reveal the names of literally 3 people so you can go and harass them.

I've never harassed anyone in the game. I just call out bullshit when I see it, and pile that makes up this thread can be smelled across the whole internet......
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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Postby Wallowis » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:12 am

Vikanias wrote:
Wallowis wrote:Communism isn't authoritarian, it literally advocates for the abolishment of the state. You mean '"socialist"


The methods of getting that can be authoritarian though.

Yes, socialism is authoritarian.
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby The Orwell Society » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:45 am

Look, authoritarianism is neccessary for an orderly society. Without a government, crime wouldn't even be crime, because it wouldn't be illegal. I'm sure no one wants to have to watch there backs everytime you walk the streets. Seriously, would you rather live safe and free from harm in a Benelovent Dictatorship or constantly being on the verge of being murdered in Anarchy? Now, if the government has the people's best interest at heart, and allows everyone the same basic rights, then authoritarianism is good. Now bad would be this nation that's talking right now, based off of 1984.

Maybe instead of authoritarianism you could focus more on corruption and human rights violations, things that aren't good at all. Authoritarianism isn't the source of all those murders; corruption and malevolence mixing together are. Let's take Nazi Germany as an example. Compared to the grand scheme of things, it wasn't the authoritarian government that killed all the jews. It was hitler playing a game the devil that killed them all. Same with Stalin, Mussolini, and any other evil dictator in history. Do you get my point?

As a person who dislikes The Communist Bloc, I say keep going, though. Just focus more on bad, bad things instead of just the broad concept like authoritarianism.
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Postby Gronsted » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:53 am

The Orwell Society wrote:Look, authoritarianism is necessary for an orderly Society.

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So stop this and be proud of your Nation. Fight for it against the Forces of Capitalism.
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Postby The Orwell Society » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:55 am

Gronsted wrote:
The Orwell Society wrote:Look, authoritarianism is necessary for an orderly Society.

The first Step towards a better Humanity is a refinement of Values.

We do not live for our self, we live for the Government, for our Nations, for Humanity.
So stop this and be proud of your Nation. Fight for it against the Forces of Capitalism.

But I'm a capitalist…
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