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Mauroa
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ADB - Islamic States

Postby Mauroa » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:30 am

Hello NSGPers <3

I created this dispatch here to bring awareness to the rise of radical and dangerous ideologies across nationstates. We need to work together to stop this advertisement of said ideologies which has caused hundreds of millions of deaths world wide. Remember what your ancestors fought for! As of right now there are less than ten regions on the list, but I will continue to further the list as my investigations continue for regions that are eligable for this list. Right now I would consider these probably the most dangerous regions on the site, whether it be IC politics or OOC politics. Any questions please just ask down below.


Dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1693567
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Malphe II » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:40 am

Communism is not an equivalent to fascism and you're not impressing anyone with this, yadda yadda.
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Postby Tuboo Shippers » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:43 am

meh. idu why it's 'dangrous.'
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Postby Wallowis » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:46 am

Communism isn't authoritarian, it literally advocates for the abolishment of the state. You mean '"socialist"
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Xatu the Great
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Postby Xatu the Great » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:47 am

Clearly an attempt to poison the well from the founder of a region that has embassies with regions on the civil defense siren, and that may very well come close to deserving to be on the CDS. Disgraceful
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Postby Tuboo Shippers » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:50 am

Xatu the Great wrote:Clearly an attempt to poison the well from the founder of a region that has embassies with regions on the civil defense siren, and that may very well come close to deserving to be on the CDS. Disgraceful

I have no idea what that means. everyone has their own ideologies tho, don't tell them they can't be authoritarian.
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:23 pm

Question: When is Layem being put on this list? Layem had close ties to Sanctum, it is reportedly harboring the individuals that caused Sanctum to be a dangerous region, and its behavior during a recent spat with Declansburg has "dangerous region" written all over it.

EDIT: Oh, wait... you're the founder of Layem, aren't you? Awkward... I guess you aren't putting your own region on your little list, are ya?
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Postby The King Isle » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:28 pm

Dude, The Communist Bloc isn't Hateful or authoritarian. They actually do have elections. And why don't you add Confederacy of Layem to the list?
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Mountains and Volcanoes
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:35 pm

Wallowis wrote:Communism isn't authoritarian, it literally advocates for the abolishment of the state. You mean '"socialist"

Same vein: Anarchism isn’t anarchy or just anti-state! Though the methods are of varying degrees of success like Communism... (don’t make this into a dick waving contest of which ideology has the most deaths; e.g. Capitalism or Communism, since both as of present in current forms are not faring so well... (ahem US and China ahem; Hot take: Marxist-Leninism is as bad as Chinese Communism!)

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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:48 pm

For anyone confused about what this is:

If you took an ink pen, stuck it on the kind authoritarian-right that fascist regions are, and drew a line directly down the political compass, you'd end up on the kind of libertarian-right that the OP and their region Layem is known for.

This list is basically one big signal from Layem to the rest of the game screaming "stop confusing us with fascists, we hate those guys too!", while Layem does not understand that anyone with social opinions that far to the right is going to get dunked on regardless of whether they think the state should enforce them or that the individual should enforce them.
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Postby Xatu the Great » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:56 pm

Frankly I'm surprised Layem hasn't been added to the civil defense siren yet
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:59 pm

Xatu the Great wrote:Frankly I'm surprised Layem hasn't been added to the civil defense siren yet

Having embassies with regions on the CDS while producing Walmart-brand CDS might make it fait accompli.
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Postby The Aber » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:06 pm

Nice mental gymnastics and shameless denial, folks.
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Untecna
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Untecna » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:18 pm

Communism has never been tried, it calls for the abolishment of the state, most socialists here recognize the failures of Stalin and Mao and the other horrible dictators, communism and fascism are not equal whatsoever (one (fascism) is built on hate, the other (communism) is built on freedom), and other such points that we must drill into your head because you won't listen when we say them

Oh yeah, and authoritarianism doesn't mean what you think it means.
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Postby Goobergunchia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:21 pm

Let's not turn this thread into a discussion best suited for General, mmk?
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Postby Independent Cossack Ukraine » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:25 pm

While we shouldn't block regions, it does help to know who to avoid. I agree with your views. Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Despotism of all types deserves a one-way ticket to Hell.

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The Aber
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Postby The Aber » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:41 pm

Independent Cossack Ukraine wrote:While we shouldn't block regions, it does help to know who to avoid. I agree with your views. Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Despotism of all types deserves a one-way ticket to Hell.

Please, for our sake, maybe we should stop. Or else r/communism and all their ilk might come after us. Because they're that sensitive.
✷THE EMPIRE OF THE ABER✷
(AIYBYROULTEUKILR / AAFL’AOULTEUKILRE-SEKYNZUVE DJ’AIYBYRADM)
✷ “LHOKYRHADJDISTUZIN. LHOKYRHADJUDNTIZIN. LHOKYRHADJDAILUTNZIN.” ✷
"AS SHE WAS. AS SHE IS. AS SHE SHALL BE."

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Postby Rick Perry » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:44 pm

Malphe II wrote:Communism is not an equivalent to fascism and you're not impressing anyone with this, yadda yadda.

Actually communism is basically like fascism. They're like twins but not identical twins.

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Postby The Aber » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:46 pm

Rick Perry wrote:
Malphe II wrote:Communism is not an equivalent to fascism and you're not impressing anyone with this, yadda yadda.

Actually communism is basically like fascism. They're like twins but not identical twins.


One is right-leaning, and the other is left-leaning. But everyone seems to kiss the ass of the left-leaning one because they portray themselves as heroes -- again, blowing smoke up their asses.
✷THE EMPIRE OF THE ABER✷
(AIYBYROULTEUKILR / AAFL’AOULTEUKILRE-SEKYNZUVE DJ’AIYBYRADM)
✷ “LHOKYRHADJDISTUZIN. LHOKYRHADJUDNTIZIN. LHOKYRHADJDAILUTNZIN.” ✷
"AS SHE WAS. AS SHE IS. AS SHE SHALL BE."

_[' ]_ | I.I.R.I.D. | [_★_]

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Postby Kavagrad » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:50 pm

Lol, lmao
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Postby Independent Cossack Ukraine » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:55 pm

The Aber wrote:
Independent Cossack Ukraine wrote:While we shouldn't block regions, it does help to know who to avoid. I agree with your views. Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Despotism of all types deserves a one-way ticket to Hell.

Please, for our sake, maybe we should stop. Or else r/communism and all their ilk might come after us. Because they're that sensitive.


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This isn't a Sub-Reddit, why should we be concerned? Wouldn't it violate the basic tenets of NationStates to start restricting ideologies/speech (beyond actual threats)?

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Right-wing Utopia

Postby Nepleslia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:21 pm

Based and redpilled, though I’d suggest making it automated in a fashion akin to the Civil Defense Siren.

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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:32 pm

I'm throwing my support behind The "People That Support the Authoritarian Deterrence Broadcast" Deterrence Broadcast.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:39 pm

Is it summer already? My how time flies…..
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Vleerian » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:59 pm

I'd like to propose for the addition of Confederacy of Layem, seeing as it is a region whose most important elected gameside position (delegate) is arbitrarily decided by the founder as per it's constitution.
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