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You Can't Stop What's Coming (The Eternal Order)

Postby The High Council » Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:37 am

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What is The Eternal Order?

The Eternal Order (The EO) is a constitutional monarchy founded by King Nephmir II, governed by two councils:
  • The High Council - an appointed council of the monarchy that oversees the foreign and military affairs and enforces the constitution.
      ♔ King
      ♗ Bishops
      ♖ Lords
  • The Tribunal - a citizen-run and maintained elected council that oversees internal affairs and the enforcement of the constitution.
      ♤ Sage (WA Delegate)
      ♧ Shaman
      ♢ Scribe

Our goal is to create the ultimate establishment of a new world order under or inspired by our constitution and way of life. We seek to completely change the meta of NationStates, and enlighten nations all around the world, through imperialist means when necessary, and free the world from the decay and inactivity that defenderism encourages and promotes. The best way to liberate regions is to enlighten them to raise arms on their own. By enlightening natives of regions on the mechanics of raiding and defending, more regions are secured from this threat through the establishment of raiding or defending military forces, mutually assured destruction, knowledge of self-defense, interregional defense treaties, or any combination thereof.

Join us, and help us remove the balance... The Eternal War is almost at hand...

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Join one of two houses, ♘ The Eternal Knights or ♙ The Auralian Knights, each with their own legacy. There are no ranks within the houses, instead knights engage in combat in foreign regions and unlock achievements. With plenty of achievements (including some that are limited-time), there are 256 achievements planned to be released over time, 18 of which are available right now!


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Fly your choice between several flags during operations, or to show your support for The EO, with some additional flags, banners, crests, and other cosmetic items planned to be released seasonally.

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Enjoy state-of-the-art maps for an in-depth world of RolePlay in three different tech levels.

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Immortalize your place in our history books and across the realm of NationStates, or become a citizen by simply moving to The Eternal Order and joining a house or endorsing our currently elected Sage for full citizen rights, including the right to run for a spot on The Tribunal during elections as granted by our constitution.

Foreign diplomat? See our embassy policy, or join our Discord.

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Official military and foreign affairs news thread of The Eternal Order.

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Postby Reventus Koth » Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:57 pm

Glad to see the EO making their debut on the forum! You guys showed up big for us in EmbassyRegionia, so I can't wait to see what you can accomplish :)
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Postby Wallowis » Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:59 pm

Wait, I see those chess symbols and I get excited, does this involve chess in any way?
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Postby Malphe II » Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:11 pm

Out of curiosity, what do you assess Imperialism to actually be? Are there particular ideological tenants here or is it mostly just aesthetics?
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Postby Bendicion » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:05 pm

There is something about knights that just always makes them fascinating to say the least. And I am curious where this will go. Kudos! :clap:

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Postby Lugus Triune » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:26 pm

I'll admit, I'm really digging the aesthetic, and the use of achievements is intriguing!
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Postby Tom » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:54 pm

Nice flags
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Postby King Nephmir II » Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:03 pm

Reventus Koth wrote:Glad to see the EO making their debut on the forum! You guys showed up big for us in EmbassyRegionia, so I can't wait to see what you can accomplish :)

Thank you, It it was a pleasure!

Malphe II wrote:Out of curiosity, what do you assess Imperialism to actually be? Are there particular ideological tenants here or is it mostly just aesthetics?

Imperialism has completely died in NationStates, and I intend to not only fill that void with The EO, but reshape the way people think of Imperialist regions. My founding of The EO was in part inspired by this clean slate free for me to draw on. I will be making this distinction much more obvious as time goes on, with many operations I have in the works, but as of right now the first distinction I am drawing is that instead of raiding for the sake of raiding, we are specifically fighting defenders and their ideology. A historical example of this would be the Imperialist regions almost a decade ago that went to war with the FRA.

Lugus Triune wrote:I'll admit, I'm really digging the aesthetic, and the use of achievements is intriguing!

Thank you, the perks of having taken a couple photoshop classes :p
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Wallowis wrote:Wait, I see those chess symbols and I get excited, does this involve chess in any way?

Just the High Council ranks in reference to the traditional TEK ranks, but I wouldn't mind de-rusting my chess abilities and starting up some regional chess competitions if there's enough of an interest!

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Postby Altys » Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:46 am

King Nephmir II wrote:There are 256 achievements planned to slowly release over time.

I know of similar systems in other regions (like the ribbons in TEP) but I don't recall seeing direct achievements anywhere, something you'd expect from a game. :p Also 256's a lot. If they're planned I assume they were all thought of already (in written form)?

Love the aesthetic as well!
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Postby Malphe II » Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:02 am

Altys wrote:
King Nephmir II wrote:There are 256 achievements planned to slowly release over time.

I know of similar systems in other regions (like the ribbons in TEP) but I don't recall seeing direct achievements anywhere, something you'd expect from a game. :p Also 256's a lot. If they're planned I assume they were all thought of already (in written form)?

Love the aesthetic as well!

I've definitely never seen an award system as advanced, my philosophy has been that the fewer the better? A rank or ribbon or title means nothing unless it's recognized & it's only recognized if there's an element of ubiquity, so I'm definitely curious to see how this system works.
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Postby King Nephmir II » Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:37 am

I understand the argument for why fewer hold more meaning, and this was something I had considered, however I concluded that this is negated by the fact that 1) achievements have a bit more of a "collectors item" connotation as opposed to ribbons and medals being special awards, 2) quite a few of the achievements will be exclusive to major operations, in which there is no way to reobtain them, thus making them more exclusive to award active members and 3) the rest of the achievements will be increasingly more challenging to obtain over time, making the effort needed to obtain the achievement contribute to not only its rarity, but significance when achieved.

A majority of the achievements are ready aside from the 120 or so set aside for operations, but not set in stone by any means until they are released. I do have a small batch of obscure ones planned purely for comedic purposes as well :p

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Postby Madjack » Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:10 am

Such a weird definition of imperialism.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:52 pm

King Nephmir II wrote:
Malphe II wrote:Out of curiosity, what do you assess Imperialism to actually be? Are there particular ideological tenants here or is it mostly just aesthetics?

Imperialism has completely died in NationStates, and I intend to not only fill that void with The EO, but reshape the way people think of Imperialist regions. My founding of The EO was in part inspired by this clean slate free for me to draw on. I will be making this distinction much more obvious as time goes on, with many operations I have in the works, but as of right now the first distinction I am drawing is that instead of raiding for the sake of raiding, we are specifically fighting defenders and their ideology. A historical example of this would be the Imperialist regions almost a decade ago that went to war with the FRA.

What about the thing that set imperialism apart from raiding most? By which I mean, the expansion of territory through raiding. Will EO be seizing regions and incorporating "vassal states" into its would-be "empire?"
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Postby Thousand Branches » Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:40 pm

As per chess hierarchy of piece points, your bishops and “lords” (rooks) are out of order ;)
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Postby King Nephmir II » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:03 am

Our constitution is set up to establish and maintain territories in the future.

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Postby Les Claypool » Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:48 am

The Church of Satan wrote:
King Nephmir II wrote:Imperialism has completely died in NationStates, and I intend to not only fill that void with The EO, but reshape the way people think of Imperialist regions. My founding of The EO was in part inspired by this clean slate free for me to draw on. I will be making this distinction much more obvious as time goes on, with many operations I have in the works, but as of right now the first distinction I am drawing is that instead of raiding for the sake of raiding, we are specifically fighting defenders and their ideology. A historical example of this would be the Imperialist regions almost a decade ago that went to war with the FRA.

What about the thing that set imperialism apart from raiding most? By which I mean, the expansion of territory through raiding. Will EO be seizing regions and incorporating "vassal states" into its would-be "empire?"

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this was renamed into Colonialism back when Imperialists decided it wasn't effective to constantly take over regions like this. To separate from Imperialism, where influence and projection of force is more important than actually taking over everything in sight that can be taken and assimilating it all (which the latter would be very painful attempting to do).
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:23 am

“Defenders are the real imperialists,” cries a self-described imperialist.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:55 pm

Les Claypool wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this was renamed into Colonialism back when Imperialists decided it wasn't effective to constantly take over regions like this. To separate from Imperialism, where influence and projection of force is more important than actually taking over everything in sight that can be taken and assimilating it all (which the latter would be very painful attempting to do).

The imperialist sphere simply called it imperialism back during the war. And that's what I fought against back then. Splitting it off with a separate term because it's convenient doesn't change the fact that it has been a core part of imperialism for over a decade. The only reason the imperialist sphere doesn't do it now is because they lack the power to do so now. Because they lack the means to sustain it these days. Because they're sphere is on life support, comatose and weak. The inadequacy of imperialists now don't change their roots.

If Nephmir here however can change that, imperialism could wake up after all those years of near-death.
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Postby King Nephmir II » Sat May 07, 2022 1:17 am

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The Eternal Order - 3 Month Anniversary & Celebration of Raider Unity
Hitting 3 months of age, The Eternal Order reflects on and celebrates its accomplishments, and looks forward to the future! The stealth invasion and destruction of a region with a founder, Battleground of the Gods; assisting in the destruction of 1200 embassies in EmbassyRegionia, boasting 9 knights in our first operation on the interregional stage; the shutdown of The Communist Nations of The World; and adopting Suspicious as our jump point, followed by the raiding of 20 regions with a 95% hit rate despite opposition and 6 knights on the field.

Long live The Eternal Order!
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Knights that engaged in the raid of EmbassyRegionia were awarded a limited-time achievement:

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Knights that hit all 20 regions on April 29th major update received an achievement:

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Two new achievements have been added:

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Special thanks to Vleerian for assisting in touching up official flags and adding a new flag variant!
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Using a network of mysterious portals, The Eternal Knights and The Black Hawks attempted to navigate the mysterious realms across NationStates before emerging into the target from all (in?)conceivable angles.

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Actual photo of the mysterious portals.


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Winter is coming... (A prophecy of what is to come)

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Nephmir, holding the mysterious staff of Athena.


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Postby Bendicion » Sat May 07, 2022 1:46 am

Loving the aesthetics! Looking forward to see the knights thunder across NationStates sooner than later once more!

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Postby Vict0ria » Sat May 07, 2022 12:33 pm

Image Always a pleasure to serve you, my liege! and might I add, this looks like a top-notch report, very well done!
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Postby King Nephmir II » Mon May 09, 2022 4:10 pm

Though not a military or foreign announcement, I found this significant enough to warrant a post.

I am pleased to announce the addition of an official map, for those that were requesting one. This is the first of three planned. Each map will feature a different tech level for unlimited roleplay possibilities. More details can be found here, including all current claims!

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Bendicion wrote:Loving the aesthetics! Looking forward to see the knights thunder across NationStates sooner than later once more!

Vict0ria wrote:(Image) Always a pleasure to serve you, my liege! and might I add, this looks like a top-notch report, very well done!

Thank you both!

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Postby Malphe II » Mon May 09, 2022 6:04 pm

Absolutely gorgeous map! I've got to figure out how to draw those sometime.
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Postby The Universe World » Mon May 09, 2022 6:10 pm

King Nephmir II wrote:Though not a military or foreign announcement, I found this significant enough to warrant a post.

I am pleased to announce the addition of an official map, for those that were requesting one. This is the first of three planned. Each map will feature a different tech level for unlimited roleplay possibilities. More details can be found here, including all current claims!




Bendicion wrote:Loving the aesthetics! Looking forward to see the knights thunder across NationStates sooner than later once more!

Vict0ria wrote:(Image) Always a pleasure to serve you, my liege! and might I add, this looks like a top-notch report, very well done!

Thank you both!

This is excellent and breathtaking! Wonderful job!
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