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Entropy: June 2021 Chaotic Council Elections

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Forged in the 100 day purifying fire of chaos within, Entropy now stands against stagnation and the established world order throughout NationStates. Entropy is a national sovereigntist region, standing against the overreach and excesses of the WA General Assembly. We are also an independent region in the true sense of the word, conducting diplomacy and pursuing military operations only insofar as they benefit the interests of Entropy, and equally willing to defend or invade based on our interests. Finally, we are proud to be a user-created region as part of our core identity, and we stand in solidarity with other like-minded UCRs to build a world in which our regions wield power and influence proportionate to the numbers and effort we contribute to NationStates.

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Postby Nova Vandalia » Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:45 pm

That's a mighty fine Council. I look forward to see what this region becomes! Congrats to all the Council Members.
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Postby Galiantus III » Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:01 pm

100th Day wrote:Entropy is a national sovereigntist region, standing against the overreach and excesses of the WA General Assembly. We are also an independent region in the true sense of the word, conducting diplomacy and pursuing military operations only insofar as they benefit the interests of Entropy, and equally willing to defend or invade based on our interests.


Quorum raiding when? :p
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:03 pm

Nova Vandalia wrote:That's a might fine Council. I look forward to see what this region becomes! Congrats to all the Council Members.

Thank you!

Galiantus III wrote:Quorum raiding when? :p

Absolutely will be happening when we have a military up and running!
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Postby Comfed » Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:27 pm

I am at once scared and excited :P

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:01 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Absolutely will be happening when we have a military up and running!

Nah, and just for that you'll be getting a counter-campaign, blocked, and I won't approve any of your future proposals, serious or otherwise. Perhaps I'll counter-campaign all your future proposals - I haven't decided yet.

Have a great day!
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:25 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Nah, and just for that you'll be getting a counter-campaign, blocked, and I won't approve any of your future proposals, serious or otherwise. Perhaps I'll counter-campaign all your future proposals - I haven't decided yet.

Have a great day!

A few things:

1. Are you threatening me in your official capacity as The East Pacific's Minister of World Assembly Affairs?

2. Perhaps you may not have noticed I'm a Delegate who can decline to approve or vote against your proposals as well. Perhaps you may not have considered that I, too, know how to work a counter-campaign. Perhaps you may not have noticed that I'm pretty damn effective when I put my mind to something. Above all, perhaps you may not have noticed I have a few friends. But you'll notice now.

3. Cope harder.

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Postby Varanius » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:33 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Absolutely will be happening when we have a military up and running!

Nah, and just for that you'll be getting a counter-campaign, blocked, and I won't approve any of your future proposals, serious or otherwise. Perhaps I'll counter-campaign all your future proposals - I haven't decided yet.

Have a great day!

Lol. Head back to the GA Wally. With this and whatever that TWP threat was a few months ago, your threats are about as empty as the current SC queue.
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Postby Quebecshire » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:34 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Galiantus III wrote:Quorum raiding when? :p

Absolutely will be happening when we have a military up and running!

I look forward to devoting the appropriate resources at my disposal to counter said operations by any Entropy forces or those conducting similar anti-democratic and anti-sovereignty operations.
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Postby Reventus Koth » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:35 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Absolutely will be happening when we have a military up and running!

I look forward to devoting the appropriate resources at my disposal to counter said operations by any Entropy forces or those conducting similar anti-democratic and anti-sovereignty operations.

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:35 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Nah, and just for that you'll be getting a counter-campaign, blocked, and I won't approve any of your future proposals, serious or otherwise. Perhaps I'll counter-campaign all your future proposals - I haven't decided yet.

Have a great day!

A few things:

1. Are you threatening me in your official capacity as The East Pacific's Minister of World Assembly Affairs?

No, although it's quite clear that you are threatening every WA author, including myself, in your official capacities.
2. Perhaps you may not have noticed I'm a Delegate who can decline to approve or vote against your proposals as well. Perhaps you may not have considered that I, too, know how to work a counter-campaign. Perhaps you may not have noticed that I'm pretty damn effective when I put my mind to something. Above all, perhaps you may not have noticed I have a few friends. But you'll notice now.

3. Cope harder.

Buddy, you've already threatened me, and I seem to get by. Maybe I'm wrong though, and you've become even more petty and vindictive than you were two years ago.
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Postby Jedinsto » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:42 pm

Can I get some elaboration on what you will be quorum raiding? I was originally under the impression that it will only be proposals you don't like, but I can't be too sure.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:26 pm

Quebecshire wrote:I look forward to devoting the appropriate resources at my disposal to counter said operations by any Entropy forces or those conducting similar anti-democratic and anti-sovereignty operations.

Were you not going to be doing this when we raided regardless? :p

Wallenburg wrote:No, although it's quite clear that you are threatening every WA author, including myself, in your official capacities.

Nonsense. We have no intention of quorum raiding every WA resolution, nor even every WA resolution we dislike, because that wouldn't even be feasible. We'll be saving quorum raiding for proposals we find to be particularly bothersome (like yours, now). The idea we're threatening "every WA author" is absurd.

Wallenburg wrote:Buddy, you've already threatened me, and I seem to get by. Maybe I'm wrong though, and you've become even more petty and vindictive than you were two years ago.

I don't even remember what you're talking about now so I suppose I've become less vindictive, but you did hop into Entropy's thread to threaten my future WA proposals -- totally unprovoked, I might add -- so I'd think turnabout is fair play, wouldn't you? I wouldn't bet on your next proposal reaching quorum.

Jedinsto wrote:Can I get some elaboration on what you will be quorum raiding? I was originally under the impression that it will only be proposals you don't like, but I can't be too sure.

That's correct, it would be limited to proposals we don't like. I'm unsure why we would quorum raid any other proposals. It won't even be every proposal we don't like, because as a national sovereigntist region we don't like most General Assembly proposals. It wouldn't be feasible to quorum raid them all. That said, I don't want to understate or downplay what we intend to do to seem like I'm trying to soothe anyone. We'll absolutely quorum raid whenever we feel like it.
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Postby Jedinsto » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:34 pm

Can someone explain to me the whole idea behind the GA hate here? Like where did this come from?

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:41 pm

I would urge Entropy to reconsider the quorum raiding agenda.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:42 pm

Jedinsto wrote:Can someone explain to me the whole idea behind the GA hate here? Like where did this come from?

It comes from years of overinflated egos bouncing off overinflated egos in GP. If it were so easy for them to fuck with P2TM or Sports or whatever as it is for them to fuck with the GA, they would do that too.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:44 pm

Jedinsto wrote:Can someone explain to me the whole idea behind the GA hate here? Like where did this come from?

General Assembly resolutions impact national stats and roleplaying, though the former is my primary concern. I've been a national sovereigntist who opposes most GA resolutions since I started playing NationStates almost 9 1/2 years ago, but I never made it a priority beyond voting against GA resolutions I didn't like.

Secondarily, it comes from people like Wallenburg insisting the GA is "their" game when it is in fact part of the game for everyone.

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:45 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:Can someone explain to me the whole idea behind the GA hate here? Like where did this come from?

General Assembly resolutions impact national stats and roleplaying, though the former is my primary concern. I've been a national sovereigntist who opposes most GA resolutions since I started playing NationStates almost 9 1/2 years ago, but I never made it a priority beyond voting against GA resolutions I didn't like.

Secondarily, it comes from people like Wallenburg insisting the GA is "their" game when it is in fact part of the game for everyone.

If you want to play in the GA, that's fine by me. You're the only side here that wants to shut down the entire game whenever someone does something you don't like or don't care about.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:47 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Jedinsto wrote:Can someone explain to me the whole idea behind the GA hate here? Like where did this come from?

General Assembly resolutions impact national stats and roleplaying, though the former is my primary concern. I've been a national sovereigntist who opposes most GA resolutions since I started playing NationStates almost 9 1/2 years ago, but I never made it a priority beyond voting against GA resolutions I didn't like.

Secondarily, it comes from people like Wallenburg insisting the GA is "their" game when it is in fact part of the game for everyone.

So, is this quorum raiding going to be targeted at specific proposals? Or will it be a blanket policy of quorum raiding every GA proposal?
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Postby Toerana » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:54 pm

Interesting to see Cormac take Entropy down a very UCR centric route. Best of luck - it'd be nice to show up and coming UCRs that you don't need to rely on a GCR to grow.

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Postby Varanius » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:57 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:General Assembly resolutions impact national stats and roleplaying, though the former is my primary concern. I've been a national sovereigntist who opposes most GA resolutions since I started playing NationStates almost 9 1/2 years ago, but I never made it a priority beyond voting against GA resolutions I didn't like.

Secondarily, it comes from people like Wallenburg insisting the GA is "their" game when it is in fact part of the game for everyone.

So, is this quorum raiding going to be targeted at specific proposals? Or will it be a blanket policy of quorum raiding every GA proposal?

You could perhaps benefit from reading the conversation right above your post.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:58 pm

Quorum raiding harms the WA game in ways that go beyond getting a proposal you don’t like out of queue. Please reconsider this
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:03 pm

Wallenburg wrote:If you want to play in the GA, that's fine by me. You're the only side here that wants to shut down the entire game whenever someone does something you don't like or don't care about.

What is this "shut down the entire game"? If you're going to continue with this overdramatized hyperbole, I'm not going to bother.

Greater Cesnica wrote:So, is this quorum raiding going to be targeted at specific proposals? Or will it be a blanket policy of quorum raiding every GA proposal?

I've already answered this here.

Toerana wrote:Interesting to see Cormac take Entropy down a very UCR centric route. Best of luck - it'd be nice to show up and coming UCRs that you don't need to rely on a GCR to grow.

Thank you!

Honeydewistania wrote:Quorum raiding harms the WA game in ways that go beyond getting a proposal you don’t like out of queue. Please reconsider this

Quorum is part of the WA game, and raiding is indistinguishable from any other means of replacing a Delegate according to NS moderation standards. Thus, quorum raiding is a legitimate way to influence the WA game and isn't damaging at all. It will likely prevent many poorly written proposals from passing.

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