The Embassy Has Been Invaded

[Aredita]

It seems as though an era has ended. The Embassy, a region that had over 3530 embassy's, was founded back in 2015, and had over 50 nations has been invaded by Lily. If you've been on NationStates for a bit, I'm sure your region had an embassy with this region. If not, you still probably have heard of them.

In the January edition of "The Cable" (NS news, published by The Embassy) they wrote a whole article about "Lily" and it's embassy collection. It's strange that not long after, the region got invaded by them. I guess that's what Lily does.

At this point, it doesn't look like The Embassy will ever come back to where it was. Every single embassy the prominent region collected over 6 years are being withdrawn, and their RMB has been made to be an advertisement for Lily.

It's sad for The Embassy, but a massive accomplishment for Lily. This opens up doors for other regions such as Gypsy Lands with 1238 embassy's or Traveling Wilburys with 1071 embassies. This way, it removes a competitor and lets other regions become the next prominent one.

It wouldn't be fair, though, to rule out the possibility of defenders or the founder taking it back. You never know what might happen.

Every region has an end, and this is where it (most likely) ends for The Embassy.

[Drew Durrnil]

It seems as though an era has ended. The Embassy, a region that had over 3530 embassy's, was founded back in 2015, and had over 50 nations has been invaded by Lily. If you've been on NationStates for a bit, I'm sure your region had an embassy with this region. If not, you still probably have heard of them.

In the January edition of "The Cable" (NS news, published by The Embassy) they wrote a whole article about "Lily" and it's embassy collection. It's strange that not long after, the region got invaded by them. I guess that's what Lily does.

At this point, it doesn't look like The Embassy will ever come back to where it was. Every single embassy the prominent region collected over 6 years are being withdrawn, and their RMB has been made to be an advertisement for Lily.

It's sad for The Embassy, but a massive accomplishment for Lily. This opens up doors for other regions such as Gypsy Lands with 1238 embassy's. This way, it removes a competitor, and let's other regions become the next prominent one.

It wouldn't be fair, though, to rule out the possibility of defenders or the founder taking it back. You never know what might happen.

Every region has an end, and this is where it (most likely) ends for The Embassy.

Literally how did they find out the password? Did a member of The Embassy join Lily or something? Or did they use an algorithm to crack the password? Just how???

[Arisyan]

it was expected to happen when The Ambassadors Reception CTE'd. It was only a matter of time until a coalition of raiders would get their hands on it. Even if the liberation meets quorum and is approved, it would most likely not be enough time to stop the withdrawal of the embassies. No matter what, the region has met its match.

It is however sad that TAR's legacy will end up being for nothing.

[Celestial Provinces]

It seems as though an era has ended. The Embassy, a region that had over 3530 embassy's, was founded back in 2015, and had over 50 nations has been invaded by Lily. If you've been on NationStates for a bit, I'm sure your region had an embassy with this region. If not, you still probably have heard of them.

In the January edition of "The Cable" (NS news, published by The Embassy) they wrote a whole article about "Lily" and it's embassy collection. It's strange that not long after, the region got invaded by them. I guess that's what Lily does.

At this point, it doesn't look like The Embassy will ever come back to where it was. Every single embassy the prominent region collected over 6 years are being withdrawn, and their RMB has been made to be an advertisement for Lily.

It's sad for The Embassy, but a massive accomplishment for Lily. This opens up doors for other regions such as Gypsy Lands with 1238 embassy's. This way, it removes a competitor, and let's other regions become the next prominent one.

It wouldn't be fair, though, to rule out the possibility of defenders or the founder taking it back. You never know what might happen.

Every region has an end, and this is where it (most likely) ends for The Embassy.

Literally how did they find out the password? Did a member of The Embassy join Lily or something? Or did they use an algorithm to crack the password? Just how???

Probably the former. Although the latter is not impossible. And speaking of the latter, that should probably be investigated by the mods or some other authority

[Drew Durrnil]

Literally how did they find out the password? Did a member of The Embassy join Lily or something? Or did they use an algorithm to crack the password? Just how???

Probably the former. Although the latter is not impossible. And speaking of the latter, that should probably be investigated by the mods or some other authority

It has.
Source: viewtopic.php?p=38337036#p38337036
Also, the newest edition of "The Cable" mentioned an interview with Lily. Maybe the password was shared there?

[Celestial Provinces]

Probably the former. Although the latter is not impossible. And speaking of the latter, that should probably be investigated by the mods or some other authority

It has.
Source: viewtopic.php?p=38337036#p38337036
Also, the newest edition of "The Cable" mentioned an interview with Lily. Maybe the password was shared there?

Hmmm... interesting.

Also i checked your “factbook”... the only time i will appreciate advertisements. Saved me from being rickrolled

[Atheris]

Seriously, fuck raiding. I still stand my opinion that R/D gameplay shouldn't be allowed. All it does is destroy regions and communities.

[Celestial Provinces]

Seriously, fuck raiding.

Yup, waiting for the day my region gets raided.

[Drew Durrnil]

Seriously, fuck raiding.

Yup, waiting for the day my region gets raided.

Good thing my region would never, due to its laws.

[Celestial Provinces]

Yup, waiting for the day my region gets raided.

Good thing my region would never, due to its laws.

You never know. Though Ive got a close group of friends in the region.

But i still do think ANY region could get raided. Even if there is no reason to. Like mine, or yours... i hope get the gist.

[Atheris]

Good thing my region would never, due to its laws.

You never know. Though Ive got a close group of friends in the region.

But i still do think ANY region could get raided. Even if there is no reason to. Like mine, or yours... i hope get the gist.

Of course any region that doesn't have sufficient protection can get raided - and even if they do, they'll probably be destroyed anyways, like The Embassy has been. The only thing raiding regions care about is to destroy, destroy, destroy. They don't care how many people they hurt by destroying regions or how many communities they break. All they want is to have a little fun, fuck the little guy in the middle.

[Aredita]

Yup, waiting for the day my region gets raided.

Good thing my region would never, due to its laws.

Honestly, Lily or any other invader region doesn't really care about your laws. My region has invasion laws, and we've still gotten invaded (twice).

[Celestial Provinces]

Good thing my region would never, due to its laws.

Honestly, Lily or any other invader region doesn't really care about your laws. My region has invasion laws, and we've still gotten invaded (twice).

Its gonna happen to anyone eventually

[Jakker]

Moved to Gameplay.

[Baedan]

Honestly, Lily or any other invader region doesn't really care about your laws. My region has invasion laws, and we've still gotten invaded (twice).

Its gonna happen to anyone eventually

You're the founder of your region. If you disable executive powers on your delegacy, it will be literally impossible to raid you.

[Parxland]

Seriously, fuck raiding. I still stand my opinion that R/D gameplay shouldn't be allowed. All it does is destroy regions and communities.

Yep.

Its gonna happen to anyone eventually

You're the founder of your region. If you disable executive powers on your delegacy, it will be literally impossible to raid you.

Nope, they can still raid the region and prevent the delegate from doing stuff, like approving proposals and voting on resolutions.

[Miku the Based]

I removed everything except World assembly authority to WA delegate. Is that enough.
Can someone take control of founder office that is not the founder?

[Baedan]

I removed everything except World assembly authority to WA delegate. Is that enough.
Can someone take control of founder office that is not the founder?

Nope, that's not possible. You're safe from everything but quorum raids.

[The Python]

I believe they obtained the password by operating Traveling Wilburys using puppets.

[Great Algerstonia]

For fucks sake

[Drew Durrnil]

Good thing my region would never, due to its laws.

Honestly, Lily or any other invader region doesn't really care about your laws. My region has invasion laws, and we've still gotten invaded (twice).

My region is Europe, and its huge. According to European statutes, the WA delegate has executive authority and is basically dictator for life.

[Reploid Productions]

Seriously, fuck raiding. I still stand my opinion that R/D gameplay shouldn't be allowed. All it does is destroy regions and communities.

If anyone seriously wants to try and get R/D banned, they need to figure out an automatic, systemic, programmable method that does not require moderators to make subjective evaluations to differentiate a "raid" delegacy change from a "not raid" delegacy change. With "not raids" including "native coup", "native coup with foreign support", "inter-regional dispute", "natives in exile returning to power", "political dispute over ideology", and all the other myriad politicking ways delegacies can change hands besides "raiders barging in to raid".

Bajillionth verse, same as the first as to why that will not happen. Unless someone ever finally manages to come up with an actual, solid, useful answer to the the same set of questions I ask every time "ban raiding!" has been brought up.

Or, the tl;dr version for those who don't want to go through the links: "Game can't automatically tell a raid WA delegate change from a not-raid WA delegate change. Since raids and not-raids look completely identical to the game, we can't ban raids without also banning not-raids. Banning not-raids would really, really suck for the vast majority of players, so we don't ban either."

Yeah, it sucks that the region was hit, that somebody was able to infiltrate and obtain the password. But "ban raiding" is not a solution that is going to happen.

[Quartia and Karafuto]

If anyone seriously wants to try and get R/D banned, they need to figure out an automatic, systemic, programmable method that does not require moderators to make subjective evaluations to differentiate a "raid" delegacy change from a "not raid" delegacy change. With "not raids" including "native coup", "native coup with foreign support", "inter-regional dispute", "natives in exile returning to power", "political dispute over ideology", and all the other myriad politicking ways delegacies can change hands besides "raiders barging in to raid".

There really is an easy solution: allow a time lag of a day or so that even if the previous delegate is voted out, they have a day or more to ban any raiders. Now this might make it harder to undo any raids that despite this were successful, but it might be worth it.

[Victorious Decepticons]

There really is an easy solution: allow a time lag of a day or so that even if the previous delegate is voted out, they have a day or more to ban any raiders. Now this might make it harder to undo any raids that despite this were successful, but it might be worth it.

The problem with that is that some people just can't take an L, no matter how legit it is. A good number of voted-out delegates would just ban whoever voted against them, calling them "raiders" if pressed, in order to retain their seats.

[Frenchy II]

Hello, I obtained the password to the Embassy through a months long process where I...

Founded Traveling Wilburys as Nelson Wilbury, then sent out over 24000 embassy requests with a friend.

Exchanged methods with Ambassadors Reception.

Started doing a song of the day to keep the persona alive.

Then got the password after offering to help maintain the Embassy.

Oh boy am I now doing maintenance work!