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My Opinion on Raiding

Postby Treciene » Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:33 am

I think raiding is a stupid thing to do in NS, and should be highly discouraged. I mean, do you want your region to be invaded as have controlled by people you don’t even know? I mean, that’s pretty dumb. You didn’t even do anything wrong, you just founded a region, and you need peace.

Also, it’s pretty easy for a founder to ban other raiders, since they have full executive authority. And you can turn off the executive authority for WA Delegate, which automatically disproves raiding because the raider delegate can’t dismiss others. That’s what happens.

Even AntiFash raids are discouraged by me. The owners are fascists, yes, and fascism has done a lot of bad things, but they are not looking for trouble, they are just relaxing chill sometimes roleplay regions for whatever. Yet so many regions go brrr on new fascist regions.

In conclusion, raiding should not exist in this world. IT SUCKS!

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:13 am

There's no raiding on General. Other People's Problems, y'know?
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Postby Nolo gap » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:32 am

it is an annoying distraction from everything and anything i'm here for.
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Postby My Political Fantasy » Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:04 am

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Postby Treciene » Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:50 pm

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:There's no raiding on General. Other People's Problems, y'know?

Tbh i didn’t know where to put this thread
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:39 pm

Treciene wrote:I think raiding is a stupid thing to do in NS, and should be highly discouraged.
<snip>
In conclusion, raiding should not exist in this world. IT SUCKS!
Reploid Productions wrote:Bajillionth verse, same as the first as to why that will not happen. Unless someone ever finally manages to come up with an actual, solid, useful answer to the the same set of questions I ask every time "ban raiding!" has been brought up.

Or, the tl;dr version for those who don't want to go through the links: "Game can't automatically tell a raid WA delegate change from a not-raid WA delegate change. Since raids and not-raids look completely identical to the game, we can't ban raids without also banning not-raids. Banning not-raids would really, really suck for the vast majority of players, so we don't ban either."
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Postby Disgraces » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:41 pm

It's dumb

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Postby Aredita » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:24 pm

My region has been raided twice, and it really wasn't that big of a deal (as long as you save the code to your WFE and WT)

It's just a part of the game. Also, this is a government simulator, and sometimes governments are overthrown (or, in this case, invaded). Invasions just keep the game authentic.
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Postby Treciene » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:53 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Treciene wrote:I think raiding is a stupid thing to do in NS, and should be highly discouraged.
<snip>
In conclusion, raiding should not exist in this world. IT SUCKS!
Reploid Productions wrote:Bajillionth verse, same as the first as to why that will not happen. Unless someone ever finally manages to come up with an actual, solid, useful answer to the the same set of questions I ask every time "ban raiding!" has been brought up.

Or, the tl;dr version for those who don't want to go through the links: "Game can't automatically tell a raid WA delegate change from a not-raid WA delegate change. Since raids and not-raids look completely identical to the game, we can't ban raids without also banning not-raids. Banning not-raids would really, really suck for the vast majority of players, so we don't ban either."
this was my opinion
I’m just saying I discourage it

Also where should I put things like this
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Postby Miss Bad Life Choices » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:25 pm

raiding is bad and raiders are bad. i await the day the mods wake up and ban it.
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Postby Varanius » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:11 pm

Right, but who cares?
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Postby Chingis » Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:58 am

Treciene wrote:Even AntiFash raids are discouraged by me. The owners are fascists, yes, and fascism has done a lot of bad things, but they are not looking for trouble, they are just relaxing chill sometimes roleplay regions for whatever. Yet so many regions go brrr on new fascist regions.


Hmmm, this is actually a pretty interesting point. When exactly?
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Postby Treciene » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:16 am

Chingis wrote:
Treciene wrote:Even AntiFash raids are discouraged by me. The owners are fascists, yes, and fascism has done a lot of bad things, but they are not looking for trouble, they are just relaxing chill sometimes roleplay regions for whatever. Yet so many regions go brrr on new fascist regions.


Hmmm, this is actually a pretty interesting point. When exactly?

https://www.nationstates.net/region=grob_germania
It’s just doing nothing
Also grobgermanisches reich was a region which just said roleplay, do not raid owned by the same people of grob germania
Yet Thaecia Raided it
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Postby Treciene » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:16 am

Varanius wrote:Right, but who cares?

I DO. I’M A NATIONSTATES USER, YOU KNOW.
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Postby Treciene » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:17 am

Miss Bad Life Choices wrote:raiding is bad and raiders are bad. i await the day the mods wake up and ban it.

says one of the leaders of one of the most raiding organizations on earth
yeah that’s sarcastic

Also I am splitting this into many posts because I am on my iPad
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Postby Vando0sa » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:27 am

Raiders gotta raid..
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Postby Team Lennox » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:23 pm

Vando0sa wrote:Raiders gotta raid..

Anti Raider here (me) :p
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Postby Team Lennox » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:25 pm

Varanius wrote:Right, but who cares?

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Postby Kingishngishla » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:25 pm

This thread, but shorter: Raider bad!

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Postby Chingis » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:26 pm

Treciene wrote:
Chingis wrote:
Hmmm, this is actually a pretty interesting point. When exactly?

https://www.nationstates.net/region=grob_germania
It’s just doing nothing
Also grobgermanisches reich was a region which just said roleplay, do not raid owned by the same people of grob germania
Yet Thaecia Raided it


Nah man when exactly did anyone on this entire site ask?
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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:27 pm

Treciene wrote:
Varanius wrote:Right, but who cares?

I DO. I’M A NATIONSTATES USER, YOU KNOW.


are you a "who", though?
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Postby Lamenia » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:33 pm

Chingis wrote:
Treciene wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/region=grob_germania
It’s just doing nothing
Also grobgermanisches reich was a region which just said roleplay, do not raid owned by the same people of grob germania
Yet Thaecia Raided it


Nah man when exactly did anyone on this entire site ask?

When I was doing your mom

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Postby New Visayan Islands » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:50 pm

Lamenia wrote:
Chingis wrote:
Nah man when exactly did anyone on this entire site ask?

When I was doing your mom

Let's not go there, shall we?

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Postby Quartia and Karafuto » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:05 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Bajillionth verse, same as the first as to why that will not happen. Unless someone ever finally manages to come up with an actual, solid, useful answer to the the same set of questions I ask every time "ban raiding!" has been brought up.

Or, the tl;dr version for those who don't want to go through the links: "Game can't automatically tell a raid WA delegate change from a not-raid WA delegate change. Since raids and not-raids look completely identical to the game, we can't ban raids without also banning not-raids. Banning not-raids would really, really suck for the vast majority of players, so we don't ban either."

So then as soon as someone figures out how to help the game tell that difference, raiding will be banned?
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Postby Baedan » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:09 pm

Quartia and Karafuto wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:

So then as soon as someone figures out how to help the game tell that difference, raiding will be banned?

That is very much not what Reppy said
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