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The Western Technocratic Federation declared Independence!

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Trevsland
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The Western Technocratic Federation declared Independence!

Postby Trevsland » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:40 pm

The Western Technocratic Federation has officially declared its Independence from The Democratic Republic. What was formerly known as Rosewood, a state in TDR, has seceded and became a new independent sovereignty known as the Western Technocratic Federation. The Government of The Democratic Republic has brought discriminatory application of the law, targeted certain citizens, ran rigged elections, disseminated the voice of the people, and become an oligarchic system where only puppets, and establishment can exist. Because this we seceded and In this we plan to uphold the values of United Leadership, Freedom, and Liberty. go check it out! Upvote and join if you like it!

The Western Technocratic Federation Official Declaration of Independence https://www.nationstates.net/nation=tre ... id=1304938
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Comfed
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Postby Comfed » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:19 pm

What has The Democratic Republic done exactly and how can we tell that this isn't because of a grudge against the leaders?
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:34 pm

1. That... is an unfortunate acronym.
2. Why call your region a technocracy if it isn't a technocracy? :blink:
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Boston Castle
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Postby Boston Castle » Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:31 pm

Comfed wrote:What has The Democratic Republic done exactly and how can we tell that this isn't because of a grudge against the leaders?

Having been in the region for a bit, I don’t see Trev’s reason for being upset.

He was always one of the five or six characters who always shuffled around the highest offices. While he was never quite taken seriously by the allies of TDR, that’s because generally, no one ever knew really _who_ to deal with. Or at least I never did. So, my guess is this is probably borne out of a grudge against someone or some perceived injustice. Doesn’t seem to be any bitterness on TDR’s end that I can see.
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Trevsland
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Postby Trevsland » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:47 pm

Comfed wrote:What has The Democratic Republic done exactly and how can we tell that this isn't because of a grudge against the leaders?


Here’s our reasons for leaving.
So TDR law says that a state must have certain requirements to be granted statehood. It was like 5 residents or maybe a little lower which Rosewood didn’t have. So I wanted to see whether they would follow their own rules they made (I knew they wouldn’t). They then went on to approve Rosewood as a state without meeting those legally binding requirements as I expected. So the first point of contention is whether legally Rosewood is TDR property I would say absolutely not. I’m the founder of the Rosewood region and discord server which of course now is WTF. TDR has never done anything or had anything to do with anything in our server or region. So I believe sure it was a secession in TDRs eyes, but our statehood status shouldn’t have been a thing in the first place.

Our reasons for secession were the following...
1. Their is massive puppeteering in TDR going on and JB himself the founder of the region has admitted to having a puppet. These puppets work to uphold the power of the elite who have them mainly JB and Porto.
2. Our two major parties are DR and PRG. These parties act as opposition but when elected both work to preserve the establishment of the region which is very corrupt because they are so desperate to hold onto power. When these party’s are attacked people are retaliated against, harassed, and bullied because they oppose the establishment.
3. TDR constantly persecutes its own citizens because they consider them a threat to the establishment power. When a couple of people from Ascenthia came into the region the administration called a national security meeting and tried to ban all of them. This was simply because they thought they were a threat to their power and Porto didn’t like Xad. I was there and they will lie to you about it but several people will agree with that and second that statement as witnesses. They do the same thing with TDC as well.
4. TDR uses immigration laws to rig elections and allow foreign interference. So we have laws in TDR which allow exemptions for nations. Within the last week before every election Porto teams with other parties in other regions to move puppets to TDR, get extemption, and vote in our elections.
5. JB deletes rightful votes that are legally cast and often allows ones that are illegally cast which benefits PRG the other major party. Their is no accountability and JB is the only one with access to the form.

So our voices were no longer being heard, we were being disenfranchised by corrupt election tactics, we were being persecuted and harassed by a lot of people in the region, and we were never really a legitimate state of TDR so we “seceded,” but in all reality I just had that server set up and wanted to start my own region. TDR had nothing to do with our server and had no control or place telling us the people of Rosewood we can’t do what we want with our server we created. So we seceded and basically just said we aren’t TDRs and to signal that we changed our name.
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Trevsland
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Postby Trevsland » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:50 pm

Boston Castle wrote:
Comfed wrote:What has The Democratic Republic done exactly and how can we tell that this isn't because of a grudge against the leaders?

Having been in the region for a bit, I don’t see Trev’s reason for being upset.

He was always one of the five or six characters who always shuffled around the highest offices. While he was never quite taken seriously by the allies of TDR, that’s because generally, no one ever knew really _who_ to deal with. Or at least I never did. So, my guess is this is probably borne out of a grudge against someone or some perceived injustice. Doesn’t seem to be any bitterness on TDR’s end that I can see.


Our reasons for being upset are totally legitimate if you read the post above and it’s not just me. We are not bitter towards TDR, we simply are no longer a state in their region. I implore you to read the post above and get the full story before coming to rush judgements.
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Trevsland
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Postby Trevsland » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:53 pm

Tinhampton wrote:1. That... is an unfortunate acronym.
2. Why call your region a technocracy if it isn't a technocracy? :blink:


1. It’s legit
2. “Technocracy is a system of governance in which a decision-maker or makers are elected by the population or appointed on the basis of their expertise in a given area of responsibility, particularly with regard to scientific or technical knowledge.” We consider ourselves a democracy but we do have a lot of the aspects of a technocracy to the degree that merit in each area is rewarded in our region, and we believe in the promotion of merit, hard work, and expertise to get you into office. So we are a mix of democracy and technocracy .
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Parxland
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Ex-Nation

Postby Parxland » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:30 pm

Trevsland wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:1. That... is an unfortunate acronym.
2. Why call your region a technocracy if it isn't a technocracy? :blink:


1. It’s legit
2. “Technocracy is a system of governance in which a decision-maker or makers are elected by the population or appointed on the basis of their expertise in a given area of responsibility, particularly with regard to scientific or technical knowledge.” We consider ourselves a democracy but we do have a lot of the aspects of a technocracy to the degree that merit in each area is rewarded in our region, and we believe in the promotion of merit, hard work, and expertise to get you into office. So we are a mix of democracy and technocracy .


Western Technocratic Federation

W.T.F.
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Comfed
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Comfed » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:34 am

Parxland wrote:
Trevsland wrote:
1. It’s legit
2. “Technocracy is a system of governance in which a decision-maker or makers are elected by the population or appointed on the basis of their expertise in a given area of responsibility, particularly with regard to scientific or technical knowledge.” We consider ourselves a democracy but we do have a lot of the aspects of a technocracy to the degree that merit in each area is rewarded in our region, and we believe in the promotion of merit, hard work, and expertise to get you into office. So we are a mix of democracy and technocracy .


Western Technocratic Federation

W.T.F.

I think they know. Read the WFE.
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Parx
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Postby Parx » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:29 am

Comfed wrote:
Parxland wrote:
Western Technocratic Federation

W.T.F.

I think they know. Read the WFE.


:lol:


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