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Baloo Kingdom
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:08 am

Dang it, why does a discussion about the validity of fascism in certain regions have to ruin an interesting idea.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:24 am

While I don't like fascism, Communism isn't any better. As long as they follow NS rules,they have every right to here. No matter how much you detest another person's political views, you must respect them. I disagree politically with many of you yet I still respect you.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:28 am

Baloo Kingdom wrote:Dang it, why does a discussion about the validity of fascism in certain regions have to ruin an interesting idea.

Maybe if they weren’t fascist, we could enjoy this "interesting idea".
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Postby American Pere Housh » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:33 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Baloo Kingdom wrote:Dang it, why does a discussion about the validity of fascism in certain regions have to ruin an interesting idea.

Maybe if they weren’t fascist, we could enjoy this "interesting idea".

And the Communists aren't any better? All I have seen is hate because they happened to be far right at least IC.
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Postby Whatermelons Second Country » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:36 am

American Pere Housh wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Maybe if they weren’t fascist, we could enjoy this "interesting idea".

And the Communists aren't any better? All I have seen is hate because they happened to be far right at least IC.

Genua is a fascist and islamophobic region. They spew hatred and disgust, it’s the core of their ideology. I’m not going to get into a "CoMMunIsM is JuSt as BAd" argument as that belongs in the other forum, but Genua is horrible and by extension so is this region, especially for their gross misrepresentation of Christianity.

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Postby American Pere Housh » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:43 am

Whatermelons Second Country wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:And the Communists aren't any better? All I have seen is hate because they happened to be far right at least IC.

Genua is a fascist and islamophobic region. They spew hatred and disgust, it’s the core of their ideology. I’m not going to get into a "CoMMunIsM is JuSt as BAd" argument as that belongs in the other forum, but Genua is horrible and by extension so is this region, especially for their gross misrepresentation of Christianity.

Oh yes they fear Islam alot. Fascism is here to stay folks no matter how much you dislike it.
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:51 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Baloo Kingdom wrote:Dang it, why does a discussion about the validity of fascism in certain regions have to ruin an interesting idea.

Maybe if they weren’t fascist, we could enjoy this "interesting idea".

Hmm, you're right
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:52 am

The topic, let's stay on that please. Topic being the region "Jesus Christ." Arguing that the region is fascist/communist/brony/furry/whatever is on topic since it's about the region. If you want to argue whataboutism regarding communism vs fascism, NSG is thataway.
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Postby Numerous Currencies » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:59 am

The wide prevalence of organized left liberal regions has brought an atmosphere of hatred and intolerance towards regions professing other ideologies,like fascism.
The intense bullying of Jesus Christ in this thread by left liberal regions is horrible and unprecedented. It has reached such a stage that Jesus Christ can't even take a decision to ask a different region for defense from the powerful communist war machines.
Communist regions brand us ( Genua )with the hatred tag; but they fail to look in the mirror themselves. Why is Genua born? It is a natural reaction to the extreme intolerance of the Antifa.
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Sodoran Alesia
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:24 pm

Numerous Currencies wrote:...
The intense bullying of Jesus Christ in this thread by left liberal regions is horrible and unprecedented. It has reached such a stage that Jesus Christ can't even take a decision to ask a different region for defense from the powerful communist war machines.
...

I'm not gonna respond to the other stuff as that would be a threadjack, but this is patently false. I have cited RMB posts that show the region was a puppet of Genua from the very beginning. This isn't a question of defense (and hell, no one was gonna raid it anyways), it's a question of fash trying to get away with duping people (which none of us will stand for).

You said it yourself, let me remind you https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=40991055

Well, the 12th Apostle is the founder. He is the Supreme Lord Archbishop of Genua and of the House of Jesus Christ and also the GruppenFuhrer and the Deputy Reichskanzler of our military empire of GENUA.


Or are you going to deny you ever said that? The region is a puppet of Genua, it is undeniable. Stop acting like as if it's a little innocent region, it's not, it was made by fash, run by fash, and protected by fash.

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:31 pm

Numerous Currencies wrote:The intense bullying of Jesus Christ in this thread by left liberal regions is horrible and unprecedented.

Bullying of a region or its members should be reported in Moderation, not used as ammo for a post. If there's actionable posts then the mods will deal with them.
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The Church of Satan
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Postby The Church of Satan » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:51 pm

Exactly. If we're all supposedly bullying this region, notify NS Moderation. If however we are simply pointing out the obvious and undeniable facts, that being that the region was made by GENUA for less than respectable purposes then there's just nothing you can do about it. If your region didn't have a founder then your position would be (extremely) remotely valid but since it does then your region needs no external protection. The founder nation holds supreme authority within the region, even if it wasn't in the region. Your region does not require their so-called protection. 12 Apostles, you are perfectly capable of protecting the region yourself with little to no effort. Assuming you yourself aren't part of GENUA, even you have been duped by them.
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Postby The 12 apostles » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:31 pm

The purpose of this thread was for recruitment and publicizing the events in the region of Jesus Christ.
Irrespective of ideological leanings, a region has the right to a gameplay forum, where one can organize the going ons of their region.The thread has been hijacked to put forward a completely different point of view, divergent from the original aim.
There is considerable bullying by nations aimed at throwing us from our track. We are being denied our right to propagate, by vested interests.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:51 pm

Let me re-emphasize ...

Reploid Productions wrote:The topic, let's stay on that please. Topic being the region "Jesus Christ." Arguing that the region is fascist/communist/brony/furry/whatever is on topic since it's about the region. If you want to argue whataboutism regarding communism vs fascism, NSG is thataway.
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Postby The 12 apostles » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:20 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
WFE wrote:Welcome to the region named after the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who preached the eternal message of love and the ways to enter the Kingdom of God.

RMB post by GENUA founder (but completely independent of course) wrote:By the way, are you a Communist nation? You should know our extreme distaste for your ideology.

Yeah good luck fash, its not working. Hell the region was listed in you colonies dispatch till 10 hours ago :roll:

Edit: Many quote fails


"Fash" is a slur on me. I read somewhere, that one can't use slurs for adherents of any ideology.

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The 12 apostles
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Postby The 12 apostles » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:36 pm

Pacific Christian Unions wrote:
The 12 apostles wrote:Wrong. Your actions speak otherwise. Christian regions have been at the receiving end of the Communist and Antifa regions akways, bullied. They can't form embassies without being bullied by the Antifa.

And you're absolutely certain this is because of your Christianity and not because of... y'know... fascism?

We are absolutely certain it is because of the region's Christian ideology. We are not fascist.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:38 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
WFE wrote:Welcome to the region named after the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who preached the eternal message of love and the ways to enter the Kingdom of God.

RMB post by GENUA founder (but completely independent of course) wrote:By the way, are you a Communist nation? You should know our extreme distaste for your ideology.

Yeah good luck fash, its not working. Hell the region was listed in you colonies dispatch till 10 hours ago :roll:

Edit: Many quote fails

Language fails, too. Don't go calling people names like "fash." If you want to take someone to task about their ideology, do it in a civil manner.
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:46 pm

The 12 apostles wrote:
Pacific Christian Unions wrote:And you're absolutely certain this is because of your Christianity and not because of... y'know... fascism?

We are absolutely certain it is because of the region's Christian ideology. We are not fascist.


https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=40991055

Well, the 12th Apostle is the founder. He is the Supreme Lord Archbishop of Genua and of the House of Jesus Christ and also the GruppenFuhrer and the Deputy Reichskanzler of our military empire of GENUA.

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Postby The 12 apostles » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:16 pm

Sodoran Alesia wrote:
The 12 apostles wrote:We are absolutely certain it is because of the region's Christian ideology. We are not fascist.


https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=40991055

Well, the 12th Apostle is the founder. He is the Supreme Lord Archbishop of Genua and of the House of Jesus Christ and also the GruppenFuhrer and the Deputy Reichskanzler of our military empire of GENUA.


That is what Numerous Currencies, founder of GENUA said. I never accepted those pompous titles of their region and made it clear to them.
So, please desist from going down the path of labelling me a fascist. Reploid said in his ruling that discussion/ arguing about the ideology of the region is ok, it didn't say the same thing about any nation.

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Postby Kandorith » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:17 pm

The 12 apostles wrote:


That is what Numerous Currencies, founder of GENUA said. I never accepted those pompous titles of their region and made it clear to them.
So, please desist from going down the path of labelling me a fascist. Reploid said in his ruling that discussion/ arguing about the ideology of the region is ok, it didn't say the same thing about any nation.


That still does not change the fact you seem to be quite proud of being protected by an openly fascist region or calling literally anyone who brings that up and your "titles" which you claim to have talked about yet remain unchanged as "commies" or "leftist"

What is even more concerning is constantly trying to defend being in league with fascists which in my view; makes your region a fascist region too.

This along with some questionable stuff which has come up in this thread already which directly relates to you and the region as a whole.
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Postby The 12 apostles » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:10 pm

Kandorith wrote:
The 12 apostles wrote:That is what Numerous Currencies, founder of GENUA said. I never accepted those pompous titles of their region and made it clear to them.
So, please desist from going down the path of labelling me a fascist. Reploid said in his ruling that discussion/ arguing about the ideology of the region is ok, it didn't say the same thing about any nation.


That still does not change the fact you seem to be quite proud of being protected by an openly fascist region or calling literally anyone who brings that up and your "titles" which you claim to have talked about yet remain unchanged as "commies" or "leftist"

What is even more concerning is constantly trying to defend being in league with fascists which in my view; makes your region a fascist region too.

This along with some questionable stuff which has come up in this thread already which directly relates to you and the region as a whole.


Ah! Reinventing the wheel. Although my nation and my region is not fascist, Fascism is unacceptable to you, but may be acceptable for hundreds of other players. It is a matter of individual player's choice.Some nations follow Marxism,Stalinism, Maoism,Polpotism, ISISism, Talibanism, whereas others follow Fascism , Nazism, Imperialism etc. It is a choice for roleplay.I consider it nothing more than that.
Your insinuations seem to be influenced by IRL definitions of Fascism, then go voice your thoughts about Fascism in the NSG forum.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:22 pm

Answer me this then: Why is it so important that Genua protect your region? Your region doesn't need them. You're the founder of your region. Nobody can stop you in your own region. Strip Executive authority from the Delegate position and your region is safe forever, assuming you don't give Border Control power to anyone. In relation to your region, Genua is entirely unnecessary. But you insist on it anyway.
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Yuno: Not gonna yell, but CoS is one of the best delegates ever | Ever-Wandering Souls: In the liberal justice system, raiding-based offenses are considered especially heinous. In The South Pacific, the dedicated defenders who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Council on Regional Security. These are their proscriptions. DUN DUN.


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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:26 pm

Nooooooooooooooo wrote:Welcome to Jesus Christ, may I take your order

Lmao
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Postby The 12 apostles » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:33 pm

Nooooooooooooooo wrote:Welcome to Jesus Christ, may I take your order

Why are you spamming on my thread?

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