NationStates

Comfed wrote:I smell a cover-up.

Heads you win, tails we lose... Great .

Sodoran Alesia wrote:Interesting how Numerous Currencies is still an RO. We already know the region is a puppet of Genua anyways, cutting embassies isn't going to magically get you off the hook.

Give me a break, man. I closed Embassies, removed the mention of Genua from WFE. The RO remained due to oversight. Thanks for reminding, I removed him now.

Tinhampton wrote:Can The 12 apostles give us an ETA for the "sign[ing]" of "the formal treaty?"

We have just concluded talks on a positive note and both sides agreed in principle.
I have not yet received the draft. Hopefully in a week's time. Depends on the other region's speed.

The 12 apostles wrote:

Sodoran Alesia wrote:Interesting how Numerous Currencies is still an RO. We already know the region is a puppet of Genua anyways, cutting embassies isn't going to magically get you off the hook.

Give me a break, man. I closed Embassies, removed the mention of Genua from WFE. The RO remained due to oversight. Thanks for reminding, I removed him now.

Doesn't change the fact the first RMB messages were saying the region was protected by Genua and naming you as deputy Reichskanzler of Genua. You can say all you want about how you denied those titles and cut off ties with Genua, doesn't change the fact that a fascist region named you with those titles and that it was protected by Genua right out of the gates.

The embassy removal looks like an aboutface after we all came in and exposed the blatant ties to Genua.

Sodoran Alesia wrote:

The 12 apostles wrote:Give me a break, man. I closed Embassies, removed the mention of Genua from WFE. The RO remained due to oversight. Thanks for reminding, I removed him now.

Doesn't change the fact the first RMB messages were saying the region was protected by Genua and naming you as deputy Reichskanzler of Genua. You can say all you want about how you denied those titles and cut off ties with Genua, doesn't change the fact that a fascist region named you with those titles and that it was protected by Genua right out of the gates.

The embassy removal looks like an aboutface after we all came in and exposed the blatant ties to Genua.

I don't care about your cute little "expose". We never hid anything. Whatever you "exposed" was always there for all to read in our WFE and embassy list. It was an agreement between two regions.
The change now, It's due to the changed circumstances due to a different agreement with a different region.
I don't care whatever you say.Keep on saying. It hardly makes a difference to me and our region. It doesn't even matter even if your masters at Antifa labels us as whateva.

Oof. This thread seems to have been a shitshow.

So lest any naive neutrals or fearful liberals/conservatives get the wrong idea, I will be clear.

Us dirty, dirty, stinking commie bastards have no beef with Christianity or with religious belief, and any inkling we might have had to target this region - fascist lies notwithstanding - would stem only from its actual embrace of fascists, who often cloak themselves in Christian-sounding pieties in order to play the victim card and come off as reasonable by comparison to their accusers. Or if you guys, like, converted loudly to the Prosperity Gospel or something similarly repulsive.

Early Christians (and later so-called "heretics" such as the Fraticelli and advocates of liberation theology), who denied the plutocratic world and advocated - often resulting in their brutal martyrdom - for a strong preferential option for the poor and against the death cult of militarism, were and are among the righteous of the earth. They have set an example for the entire world. And while one can dig up Bible quotes to support virtually any position, more of the Christian scripture supports a left political orientation than any other. "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Fascists seeking to armor themselves in Christian rhetoric to pass as good people, or deflect criticism from those who have their number, dishonor the creed and all believers.

Lest I be accused of getting off-topic, this is all in aid of saying this region is not a target of either TRF or Antifa, and will not be a target, unless the so-called "Christians" who previously claimed it return (or turn out never to have left). While you're disavowing Genua, I would also strongly recommend taking a good hard look at Albosiac and United Christian Empires of the West.

Have a nice day!

Lyrical International Brigade wrote:Oof. This thread seems to have been a shitshow.

So lest any naive neutrals or fearful liberals/conservatives get the wrong idea, I will be clear.

Us dirty, dirty, stinking commie bastards have no beef with Christianity or with religious belief, and any inkling we might have had to target this region - fascist lies notwithstanding - would stem only from its actual embrace of fascists, who often cloak themselves in Christian-sounding pieties in order to play the victim card and come off as reasonable by comparison to their accusers. Or if you guys, like, converted loudly to the Prosperity Gospel or something similarly repulsive.

Early Christians (and later so-called "heretics" such as the Fraticelli and advocates of liberation theology), who denied the plutocratic world and advocated - often resulting in their brutal martyrdom - for a strong preferential option for the poor and against the death cult of militarism, were and are among the righteous of the earth. They have set an example for the entire world. And while one can dig up Bible quotes to support virtually any position, more of the Christian scripture supports a left political orientation than any other. "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Fascists seeking to armor themselves in Christian rhetoric to pass as good people, or deflect criticism from those who have their number, dishonor the creed and all believers.

Lest I be accused of getting off-topic, this is all in aid of saying this region is not a target of either TRF or Antifa, and will not be a target, unless the so-called "Christians" who previously claimed it return (or turn out never to have left). While you're disavowing Genua, I would also strongly recommend taking a good hard look at Albosiac and United Christian Empires of the West.

Have a nice day!

Another Bible class in above post. Surely off-topic.

Borduria6 wrote:

Lyrical International Brigade wrote:snip

Another Bible class in above post. Surely off-topic.

Considering that fascists have this weird tendency to try and seep into other communities by means of stealthily rebranding (okay, maybe stealthy is the wrong word), and that the region Jesus Christ seems to be an attempt to build inroads between "the flag-bearers of fascism" (Genua) and other, more respectable, Christian regions, it might be useful to clear up fears that ANTIFA and ANTIFA associated GP organizations aren't going to go around dunking on Christian regions or something equally unreasonable.

*checks nation*

Man, it's weird how people keep saying that Jesus Christ is a fascist region, and in response, people from fascist regions keep coming of the woodwork to defend it.
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Borduria6 wrote:Another Bible class in above post. Surely off-topic.

No, and you have yet again ignored clear moderator notice to stop sockpuppeting in this thread, which has already seen another player called out on it.

At this point, I believe you have posted in this thread as:

The 12 apostles
Borduria6
Numerous Currencies
Ruhed Aristotle

Stick to one nation going forward.

Well mask's off - unless Jesus Christ is refounded with someone who isn't actually a fascist, they're going to get raided

Called it. So Reichskanzler of Genua, flag bearer of fascism, Numerous Currencies/12 Apostles, care to explain how this region isn't fascist lmao

Sodoran Alesia wrote:Called it. So Reichskanzler of Genua, flag bearer of fascism, Numerous Currencies/12 Apostles, care to explain how this region isn't fascist lmao

It more likely is. Maybe we should stop giving these guys so much attention for their choice of ideology.

The 12 apostles wrote:Regional announcement:

With the promise of defensive support from a non-fascist, non-communist Christian region ( to be declared once the formal treaty is signed), Jesus Christ severed all ties with Genua.

Be it known to one and all that our embassy with Genua also stands withdrawn.

Well, 12 Apostles and I spoke on agreeing to a formal Pact, which is purposed to be the NationStates Christian Military Pact (NSCMP), but it seemed like some peculiar mosquito must have bitten 12 Apostles that he returned to the Fascist group. I'm a bit flabbergasted because he informed me that he was going to sever ties with Fascist GENUA for a growing but hopefully promising military alliance specifically designed for Christian regions, but that's how the world works! Betrayal and disloyalty are common!

Savopia wrote:

The 12 apostles wrote:Regional announcement:

With the promise of defensive support from a non-fascist, non-communist Christian region ( to be declared once the formal treaty is signed), Jesus Christ severed all ties with Genua.

Be it known to one and all that our embassy with Genua also stands withdrawn.

Well, 12 Apostles and I spoke on agreeing to a formal Pact, which is purposed to be the NationStates Christian Military Pact (NSCMP), but it seemed like some peculiar mosquito must have bitten 12 Apostles that he returned to the Fascist group. I'm a bit flabbergasted because he informed me that he was going to sever ties with Fascist GENUA for a growing but hopefully promising military alliance specifically designed for Christian regions, but that's how the world works! Betrayal and disloyalty are common!

lol, you didn't read Sedgistan's post? 12 Apostles is Numerous Currencies! That's why he backed out, once revealed to be a fascist himself and not some innocent poor soul led astray, no point in trying to hide it.

Indeed, the bigger question for me is that since Jesus Christ is now beyond a doubt a puppet of Genua in that they share the same founder and are run by the same people, doesn't that mean Genua now has 2 gameplay threads?

Sodoran Alesia wrote:

Savopia wrote:Well, 12 Apostles and I spoke on agreeing to a formal Pact, which is purposed to be the NationStates Christian Military Pact (NSCMP), but it seemed like some peculiar mosquito must have bitten 12 Apostles that he returned to the Fascist group. I'm a bit flabbergasted because he informed me that he was going to sever ties with Fascist GENUA for a growing but hopefully promising military alliance specifically designed for Christian regions, but that's how the world works! Betrayal and disloyalty are common!

lol, you didn't read Sedgistan's post? 12 Apostles is Numerous Currencies! That's why he backed out, once revealed to be a fascist himself and not some innocent poor soul led astray, no point in trying to hide it.

Indeed, the bigger question for me is that since Jesus Christ is now beyond a doubt a puppet of Genua in that they share the same founder and are run by the same people, doesn't that mean Genua now has 2 gameplay threads?

Oh wow, yeah I definitely missed that piece of vital info. Thanks for letting me know who I almost dealt with.

Sodoran Alesia wrote:lol, you didn't read Sedgistan's post? 12 Apostles is Numerous Currencies! That's why he backed out, once revealed to be a fascist himself and not some innocent poor soul led astray, no point in trying to hide it.

Indeed, the bigger question for me is that since Jesus Christ is now beyond a doubt a puppet of Genua in that they share the same founder and are run by the same people, doesn't that mean Genua now has 2 gameplay threads?

Didn't I ask this question back on like the first page? I think this is still a valid question considering that Genua has so carefully tried to disguise the region in order to recruit more members for themselves.

Sedgistan wrote:At this point, I believe you have posted in this thread as:

The 12 apostles
Borduria6
Numerous Currencies
Ruhed Aristotle

Stick to one nation going forward.

Oh Dear, Oh Dear, Oh Dear. Who could have seen this one coming, said absolutely nobody.

Lyrical International Brigade wrote:...(or turn out never to have left).

And this is why you don't make statements like these in fascists' threads, kids. Silly me!

We , at Jesus Christ pray that 2021 will be free from the trials and tribulations of 2020 that humanity faced, irrespective of religion, class or creed.
Thanks to the anonymous guy who nominated our dispatch for the annual awards.

The 12 apostles wrote:We , at Jesus Christ pray that 2021 will be free from the trials and tribulations of 2020 that humanity faced, irrespective of religion, class or creed.
Thanks to the anonymous guy who nominated our dispatch for the annual awards.

irrespective of religion, huh? what happened to freeing the world from the poisonous tentacles of jihad?

Baedan wrote:

The 12 apostles wrote:We , at Jesus Christ pray that 2021 will be free from the trials and tribulations of 2020 that humanity faced, irrespective of religion, class or creed.
Thanks to the anonymous guy who nominated our dispatch for the annual awards.

irrespective of religion, huh? what happened to freeing the world from the poisonous tentacles of jihad?

Oh ! You consider Jihad to be a religion?? Wonderful.

The 12 apostles wrote:We , at Jesus Christ pray that 2021 will be free from the trials and tribulations of 2020 that humanity faced, irrespective of religion, class or creed.
Thanks to the anonymous guy who nominated our dispatch for the annual awards.

Oh, back for more 12 Apostles, known puppet of Numerous Currencies, founder of the fascist region Genua. How ironic, a fascist speaking of the trials of 2020 when protofascism arguably made it worse. This region won't last long, it's basically a Genuan puppet storage and will forever be sentenced to irrelevancy until it's inevitably raided.

Sodoran Alesia wrote:

The 12 apostles wrote:We , at Jesus Christ pray that 2021 will be free from the trials and tribulations of 2020 that humanity faced, irrespective of religion, class or creed.
Thanks to the anonymous guy who nominated our dispatch for the annual awards.

Oh, back for more 12 Apostles, known puppet of Numerous Currencies, founder of the fascist region Genua. How ironic, a fascist speaking of the trials of 2020 when protofascism arguably made it worse. This region won't last long, it's basically a Genuan puppet storage and will forever be sentenced to irrelevancy until it's inevitably raided.

Jesus Christ will forever remain relevant. No force can block the progress of the philosophy that Jesus Christ expounds.
Come, join Jesus Christ !

The 12 apostles wrote:

Sodoran Alesia wrote:Oh, back for more 12 Apostles, known puppet of Numerous Currencies, founder of the fascist region Genua. How ironic, a fascist speaking of the trials of 2020 when protofascism arguably made it worse. This region won't last long, it's basically a Genuan puppet storage and will forever be sentenced to irrelevancy until it's inevitably raided.

Jesus Christ will forever remain relevant. No force can block the progress of the philosophy that Jesus Christ expounds.
Come, join Jesus Christ !

Pretty sure Jesus wasn't a nazi.

Wayneactia wrote:

The 12 apostles wrote:

Jesus Christ will forever remain relevant. No force can block the progress of the philosophy that Jesus Christ expounds.
Come, join Jesus Christ !

Pretty sure Jesus wasn't a nazi.

Nobody said he was.