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The 12 apostles
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Postby The 12 apostles » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:31 am

Free Las Pinas wrote:
Ruhed Aristotle wrote:
Ah ! Now I get it. Your name! It's elementary, Dr Watson! Church of Satan! That's why you allied with the Antifa.

Well, I'm a Catholic, and I'd ally with Antifa before this region.


This thread is not for publicizing your personal religious beliefs or ideological preferences, which no one is bothered about. Please stick to the thread topic.

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Free Las Pinas
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Postby Free Las Pinas » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:34 am

The 12 apostles wrote:
Free Las Pinas wrote:Well, I'm a Catholic, and I'd ally with Antifa before this region.


This thread is not for publicizing your personal religious beliefs or ideological preferences, which no one is bothered about. Please stick to the thread topic.

My point is, I feel that this region is falsely advertising itself as Christian, and by Antifa, I mean NS Antifa, which is what I assumed the person I quoted was talking about. If it wasn't, tell them to stop straying away from the thread topic, and claiming people to be associated with a RL-group.

Additionally, shouldn't you be concerned if you've been getting a lot of posts like this, and actually listen to those genuinely concerned that a region whose name can attract a lot of other people could be doing so much better?
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Postby Varanius » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:06 am

The 12 apostles wrote:
Free Las Pinas wrote:Well, I'm a Catholic, and I'd ally with Antifa before this region.


This thread is not for publicizing your personal religious beliefs or ideological preferences, which no one is bothered about. Please stick to the thread topic.

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Postby Picairn » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:14 am

The 12 apostles wrote:This thread is not for publicizing your personal religious beliefs or ideological preferences, which no one is bothered about. Please stick to the thread topic.

How about you stop associating your region with fascists?
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Postby Fyrn-Gestreon » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:36 am

The 12 apostles wrote:
Free Las Pinas wrote:Well, I'm a Catholic, and I'd ally with Antifa before this region.


This thread is not for publicizing your personal religious beliefs or ideological preferences, which no one is bothered about. Please stick to the thread topic.

I'm sorry, you kind of made it about this topic when you decided to name a nigh-openly fascist region after a religious figure. You do realize that there are more than far right-wing Christians, right? Like, I'm a Christian Anarchist (don't think that anarchism is feasible in the current day, material conditions and all that, but I agree with it philosophically), and there are others like me who wouldn't agree with you at all, such as Christian Socialists, Christian centrists, or even just your basic-bitch conservatives. Your own ideological predilections + your seeming attempt to attract Christians to your fascist region have made this about personal belief, and people expressing theirs does not detract from the topic at all.
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:29 am

The 12 apostles wrote:Ha! Nobody had the guts to take my challenge.
The fear of the Antifa is there everywhere. Every region in this thread has refused to offer us protection for the fear of Antifa using the rod to rebuke them and control their narrative.


lmao what. No one took your "challenge" because Antifa isn't a threat, most players on NS detest fascism and support and respect their efforts in deplatforming fascism. How dense are you? Like several of us in this raid (including myself) literally raid with Antifa.

So say what you like, do whatever you do,
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Ah, so you choose to stay with fascism!

Kandorith said it all in his previous post, that our Christian region allies are all fascists! This is the perception of Antifa that has percolated down to this false narrative "Christian regions are bourgeois, attack them through dummies whenever they try to assert."



But he didn't say that, you're misrepresenting. He made the astute observation that some of your allies are covertly fascist. No where did he make a general statement like you are doing now.

The 12 apostles wrote:Ah, how very convenient. So, convenient.
As I suspected, there are different yardsticks to judge RL Antifa-Nationstates Antifa and RL Fascism-Nationstates Fascism. The bias actually is unfortunate.


Um yes, because you're comparing two completely different things.

That is the crux of the issue. Whatever you do in whatever way is justified. Whatever we do is criminal.
Wow! What a sense of justice! Teaching from Marxism , it seems?

Uh, it's clear you have never read Marx lol It's not even remotely related to justice, it's literally recognizing your fallacious arguments

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I have better fish to fry.


lol, calling your friends to bail a sinking ship? You tried to prove you weren't fascist this entire thread and now your true colors reveal lol

The 12 apostles wrote:You haven't read the thread from beginning to end. Who started this bullying will be evident for you to see. And chickening out? I have been single handedly resisting these Antifa and liberal army for days. I have a RL too, I need to work and earn my bread in RL.


lol, you brought it upon yourself when your fascist ties were evident. You have been chickening out, you have refused to give any direct answers and you left so your fascist friends can help. If you think a few posters is an army, then I don't know what to say lol

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:52 pm

Ruhed Aristotle wrote:-snip-

Ooh, sockpuppets. Maybe don't do that to artificially inflate your apparent support.
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Postby A mean old man » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:44 pm

When "Jesus Christ" is refounded by a 4-WA crumb of a region that calls itself "the flag-bearer of fascism" :meh:

You'd think R/D gang might be on top of seizing these names so that threads like this one wouldn't exist.
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Postby Fyrn-Gestreon » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:54 pm

A mean old man wrote:When "Jesus Christ" is refounded by a 4-WA crumb of a region that calls itself "the flag-bearer of fascism" :meh:

You'd think R/D gang might be on top of seizing these names so that threads like this one wouldn't exist.

It could’ve been a cool Christian region, but the fascists had to steal it. :(
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Postby Nepleslia » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:00 pm

Anyone interested in forming a crusade to retake Jesus Christ from the fascist infidels? Nevermind, the founder's one of the fascists. :(
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Postby Fyrn-Gestreon » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:33 pm

Nepleslia wrote:Anyone interested in forming a crusade to retake Jesus Christ from the fascist infidels? Nevermind, the founder's one of the fascists. :(

I'd be totally down were it not for that fact.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:40 pm

It’s only a matter of time, before this is another founderless region.
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Postby Fyrn-Gestreon » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:45 pm

Wayneactia wrote:It’s only a matter of time, before this is another founderless region.

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Postby Elsa De Arendelle » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:51 pm

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Postby FolkvangrEmpire » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:21 pm

It is so sad to see that how threatened people are by Christianity . Any other religion doesn't get the pouring of attacks that Christians do. Of course the throwing out of fascism, which is so tiresome. Anyone who doesn't agree with a certain political ideology is fascist, this threat isn't even about politics. Whatever the personal ideology behind the one who made the threat is irreverent. This thread is about Christianity, Those concerned that the creators are trying to promote their ideology with the thread, seem to fail to realize they are the only ones that have brought Ideology into it, thus are the ones actually promoting it most by bringing attention to the region of which the creator belongs to. If politics had been completely ignored and everyone stuck to the topic at hand, then political ideology wouldn't be recognized at all thus no one ideology being promoted.

I strongly suggest that we leave this threat to the intended topic and spread the Love of God and our Savior , Jesus Christ. Put behind us any political differences and focus instead around uniting on our love of God alone.

Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

Hate the sin and not the sinner for none of us are perfect. You do not agree with someone's politics fine, pray that they will see the truth behind them if those politics are truly dangerous. Pray they will turn from their path of hatred. SO far all I have seen are people judging and hating someone for their supposed politics are the only ones spreading any hatred. I have no seen the person here express any kind of hateful view but simply as that we leave politics out the thread and focus on the topic, Christianity. That doesn't seem like a promotion of any politics to me or using the threat and region associated to promote any kind of political views. If no one had looked up their other associated regions and declared them no one would even know that their was a fascist link. I state again, those condemning are the ones brining the most attention and promotion to politics.

I am happy to see anyone create a forum thread or a region for the Glory of God.

James 4:11-12 "Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?'

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Postby Dominioan » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:41 pm

FolkvangrEmpire wrote:It is so sad to see that how threatened people are by Christianity . Any other religion doesn't get the pouring of attacks that Christians do. Of course the throwing out of fascism, which is so tiresome. Anyone who doesn't agree with a certain political ideology is fascist, this threat isn't even about politics. Whatever the personal ideology behind the one who made the threat is irreverent. This thread is about Christianity, Those concerned that the creators are trying to promote their ideology with the thread, seem to fail to realize they are the only ones that have brought Ideology into it, thus are the ones actually promoting it most by bringing attention to the region of which the creator belongs to. If politics had been completely ignored and everyone stuck to the topic at hand, then political ideology wouldn't be recognized at all thus no one ideology being promoted.

I strongly suggest that we leave this threat to the intended topic and spread the Love of God and our Savior , Jesus Christ. Put behind us any political differences and focus instead around uniting on our love of God alone.

Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

Hate the sin and not the sinner for none of us are perfect. You do not agree with someone's politics fine, pray that they will see the truth behind them if those politics are truly dangerous. Pray they will turn from their path of hatred. SO far all I have seen are people judging and hating someone for their supposed politics are the only ones spreading any hatred. I have no seen the person here express any kind of hateful view but simply as that we leave politics out the thread and focus on the topic, Christianity. That doesn't seem like a promotion of any politics to me or using the threat and region associated to promote any kind of political views. If no one had looked up their other associated regions and declared them no one would even know that their was a fascist link. I state again, those condemning are the ones brining the most attention and promotion to politics.

I am happy to see anyone create a forum thread or a region for the Glory of God.

James 4:11-12 "Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?'

This region has connections to fascist regions and is calling on them to "protect them" from the eeeeevil mArXiStS on this thread.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:30 am

FolkvangrEmpire wrote:It is so sad to see that how threatened people are by Christianity . Any other religion doesn't get the pouring of attacks that Christians do. Of course the throwing out of fascism, which is so tiresome. Anyone who doesn't agree with a certain political ideology is fascist, this threat isn't even about politics. Whatever the personal ideology behind the one who made the threat is irreverent. This thread is about Christianity, Those concerned that the creators are trying to promote their ideology with the thread, seem to fail to realize they are the only ones that have brought Ideology into it, thus are the ones actually promoting it most by bringing attention to the region of which the creator belongs to. If politics had been completely ignored and everyone stuck to the topic at hand, then political ideology wouldn't be recognized at all thus no one ideology being promoted.

The region has connections to Genua, which proudly portrays themselves as "the flag bearer of fascism".

Read before you make ignorant assertions.
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:13 am

FolkvangrEmpire wrote:<snip>

I direct you to two relevant Moderator posts in this thread:

Sedgistan wrote:This is the Gameplay forum, not a bible discussion group.

The topic of the thread is not "spread the Love of God and our Savior , Jesus Christ." -- it's the NationStates region Jesus Christ, and aspects of that region, its ideologies, and its links, are relevant topics for discussion here.

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Postby Syberis » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:35 am

Picairn wrote:
FolkvangrEmpire wrote:It is so sad to see that how threatened people are by Christianity . Any other religion doesn't get the pouring of attacks that Christians do. Of course the throwing out of fascism, which is so tiresome. Anyone who doesn't agree with a certain political ideology is fascist, this threat isn't even about politics. Whatever the personal ideology behind the one who made the threat is irreverent. This thread is about Christianity, Those concerned that the creators are trying to promote their ideology with the thread, seem to fail to realize they are the only ones that have brought Ideology into it, thus are the ones actually promoting it most by bringing attention to the region of which the creator belongs to. If politics had been completely ignored and everyone stuck to the topic at hand, then political ideology wouldn't be recognized at all thus no one ideology being promoted.

The region has connections to Genua, which proudly portrays themselves as "the flag bearer of fascism".

Read before you make ignorant assertions.


It's not ignorant. It's a rather deliberate move.
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Postby Quebecshire » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:06 pm

FolkvangrEmpire wrote:It is so sad to see that how threatened people are by Christianity . Any other religion doesn't get the pouring of attacks that Christians do. Of course the throwing out of fascism, which is so tiresome.

If a region associates with fascism, they're gonna get called fascist. This region did that.

Also, you're literally a Morrighan alt, aren't you? You've had plenty of dances with fascism.
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Postby Fyrn-Gestreon » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:14 am

FolkvangrEmpire wrote:It is so sad to see that how threatened people are by Christianity . Any other religion doesn't get the pouring of attacks that Christians do. Of course the throwing out of fascism, which is so tiresome. Anyone who doesn't agree with a certain political ideology is fascist, this threat isn't even about politics. Whatever the personal ideology behind the one who made the threat is irreverent. This thread is about Christianity, Those concerned that the creators are trying to promote their ideology with the thread, seem to fail to realize they are the only ones that have brought Ideology into it, thus are the ones actually promoting it most by bringing attention to the region of which the creator belongs to. If politics had been completely ignored and everyone stuck to the topic at hand, then political ideology wouldn't be recognized at all thus no one ideology being promoted.

I strongly suggest that we leave this threat to the intended topic and spread the Love of God and our Savior , Jesus Christ. Put behind us any political differences and focus instead around uniting on our love of God alone.

Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

Hate the sin and not the sinner for none of us are perfect. You do not agree with someone's politics fine, pray that they will see the truth behind them if those politics are truly dangerous. Pray they will turn from their path of hatred. SO far all I have seen are people judging and hating someone for their supposed politics are the only ones spreading any hatred. I have no seen the person here express any kind of hateful view but simply as that we leave politics out the thread and focus on the topic, Christianity. That doesn't seem like a promotion of any politics to me or using the threat and region associated to promote any kind of political views. If no one had looked up their other associated regions and declared them no one would even know that their was a fascist link. I state again, those condemning are the ones brining the most attention and promotion to politics.

I am happy to see anyone create a forum thread or a region for the Glory of God.

James 4:11-12 "Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?'

Don't talk like you're Christ's representative to this board, my guy. As a Christian myself, I can't imagine He's looking down with anything but disappointment with your overt support of fascism.
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Postby The 12 apostles » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:04 am

Regional announcement:

With the promise of defensive support from a non-fascist, non-communist Christian region ( to be declared once the formal treaty is signed), Jesus Christ severed all ties with Genua.

Be it known to one and all that our embassy with Genua also stands withdrawn.

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Postby Comfed » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:42 am

I smell a cover-up.

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:46 am

Interesting how Numerous Currencies is still an RO. We already know the region is a puppet of Genua anyways, cutting embassies isn't going to magically get you off the hook.

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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:39 am

Can The 12 apostles give us an ETA for the "sign[ing]" of "the formal treaty?"
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