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The Top Issues Players in NationStates

Postby Pencil Sharpeners 2 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:06 pm

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Hello! Inspired by NSToday’s Power20, which ranks influential GPers, I have decided to create a list of the top issues players in the game right now. Issue answering in order to gain World Census rankings is one of the most drawn out aspects of gameplay, with the highest rankings taking literally years of daily activity to achieve. However, other than fancy badges on their nation pages, the best issues players get little public recognition for their skill and dedication, which this article seeks to at least partially remedy.

Unlike the Power20, which uses a panel of respected gameplayers to decide on the rankings, this list is entirely made by me with zero oversight at all. The rankings are based mostly on the World Census rankings people have, but also the rate of improvement or dominance nations have in their chosen rankings. Without further ado, here is the list.


10 - Despoticania
Despoticania is a highly technologically advanced economic powerhouse. They have two World #1 rankings, Scientific Advancement and Average Income of Poor, along with a further 7 World top 10 rankings, all of which are economic. They are one of only a few nations in the elite $1,000,000+ average income club, and even their poorest 10% earn more money than the average citizen in all but the wealthiest 14 nations in the World. Their level of scientific advancement is literally beyond compare, and it is presumably used to fuel their powerhouse Information Technology industry (3rd in the World), and… Basket Weaving industry (2nd in the World).

9 - Bedetopia
Bedetopia is the exact type of nation you would expect it to be, given that it is run by ‘a synthetic life form made up of nanomachines’. Bedetopia has turned the healthcare ranking into a one-sided walkover, with a score that is currently 17,000 ahead of the second-place nation (for reference, a score of 17,000 gets you in the World top 0.2%). This dominance, combined with a recent acquisition of the top spot for largest military in the World, puts Bedetopia firmly in the issue answering elite.

8 - Pencil Sharpeners 2
*Insert that meme of Obama giving a medal to himself*
Yes, I’ve put myself on the list. How corrupt! But it’s my list and I can do what I like with it. Here’s some justification. Across my army of puppets, I now hold seven World #1 rankings, from Nudity to Timber Woodchipping, to Ideological Radicality. I have no idea how other players manage their issues, but my colossal spreadsheet allows me to quickly zip through 40 issues per day with few slip-ups in my quest for census dominance. Currently, however, none of my nations have more than two World #1s individually, so I couldn’t justify a position higher than this for me.

7 - The Dark System
The Dark System has turned inequality into an art, with their Average Income of Wealthy being so high it actually breaks the graph (the graph tops out at $9.99 million, but a quick peak at the hidden ‘compare’ page shows that the true value is currently over $11 million. The Dark System is also the World #1 for Retail industry, and is second in the World for both Average Income and Economy. What makes these achievements particularly impressive is that The Dark System is relatively ‘young’, and is continuing to quickly climb the rankings. It wouldn’t surprise me if they gained a few more #1 badges over the next couple of years.

6 - Blogotopia
The first individual nation on this list to have more than two World #1s, Blogotopia sits at the top of the tree for Welfare, Public Education, and Youth Rebelliousness. What is even more impressive is that Blogotopia enjoys an enormous advantage in two of their rankings. In Public Education, they are 20,000 clear of second place (a score of 20,000 would rank you in the top 1%), and in Welfare they are 19,000 clear of second place (a score of 19,000 would rank you in the top 0.1%). On top of this, Blogotopia is also in the top 100 for a further 17 rankings, including Crime, Pacifism, Black Market, and Integrity, which is an impressive combination by itself.

5 - Bright Angel
Bright Angel is the NationStates economic powerhouse. Number 1 for Average Income, Economic Output, Manufacturing Sector, and Black Market; it is not hard to see the priorities of this nation. Throw in a further eight World top 10 rankings, and its undeniable that Bright Angel is an issue-answering all-star. Their wealth is so great that despite ranking pretty much middle of the pack for income equality, they have the third highest Average Income of Poor in the World. If there was a pan-NationStates stock market, Bright Angel could probably crash it just by sneezing.

4 - Tzo
You would be forgiven for thinking that Tzo is fighting a losing battle against issue-answering colossus Kindjal, given that there are seven rankings where Tzo is runner up to their slightly older rival. However, Tzo has managed to carve themselves a niche of their own, being World #1 for Intelligence, Culture, and Inclusiveness. They have a total of seventeen rankings in the World top 10 - the most of any nation on this list - showing an ability to excel across a broad range of measurements and cement their place as one of the top issue-answerers in the game.

3 - Cashdeer
Despite having been around since 2006, Cashdeer is a relatively new name at the top of the World Census. In the past few years they have developed a dominating lead in the Rudeness ranking, and also taken the top spot for Crime, Weaponisation, and Death Rate. Having left experienced players trailing in their wake in all four of these rankings, you would be wise not to bet against them expanding this collection in the future. Also, looking at the regional happenings for their region, Pontbridge Islands, suggests that the same player also controls 4 other nations, including Gynostan, the World #1 for Foreign aid.

2 - Northern Borland
If you’ve clicked on this article, you probably don’t need me to tell you anything about the achievements of the Borland nations. Most likely controlled by the same player (I haven’t checked because I don’t put effort into my work), the three Borland nations have nine World #1 rankings between them, with five of them belonging to the business-oriented Northern Borland. Even if they stopped answering issues now (something which is unlikely to happen after 16 years of consistency), it would take years before they were toppled in some of these rankings. Northern Borland is the only nation to have Average Disposable Income above $1,000,000, while Deep South Borland’s 176,000+ ‘Prayers per Hour’ is enough to overwhelm any deity’s admin team.

1 - Kindjal
Are you surprised by this? No, of course you’re not surprised by this. Kindjal is the only nation in NationStates history to be Commended solely for issue-answering, and it’s hard to argue that anybody deserves it more. With just a single nation, Kindjal’s ten World #1s trump anybody’s puppet army, and this dominance has been consistent in the six years I’ve been playing the game, and probably longer. In such a competitive environment, Kindjal makes unrivalled dominance seem far easier than it is, and for that reason is deserving of not just the SC Commendation, but also the position as the top issues player in the game.


Footnotes:
- I have used the $ symbol for currency, even though most nations don’t use dollars. This is pretty much just for aesthetic reasons.
- I haven’t included any non-issues rankings, such as Influence, International Artwork etc., as they are not relevant here.
- There are, of course, many great issues players who didn’t make it into the top 10. That’s just the way it is unfortunately. If people like this article, I may make more or expand it in the future.

Thank you for reading!
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:08 pm

Most excellent stuff. I look forward to seeing my puppets up there in the future.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:11 pm

I aspire to be where Kindjal is, but then Kindjal will keep on dwarfing everyone else!
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Postby Bormiar » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:00 pm

Great job!

Pencil Sharpeners 2 wrote:I have no idea how other players manage their issues, but my colossal spreadsheet allows me to quickly zip through 40 issues per day with few slip-ups in my quest for census dominance.

I gotta hear more about this.
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Postby Team Leo » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:19 pm

Noice report :p

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Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:25 pm

This is excellent. Thank you for making this.
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:27 am

Ohh, nicely done, I like it! :3

I do need to step up my game, but I am a relatively new/small nation compared to these giants here. :P


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Postby Queen Yuno » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:41 am

Nice work
There's an issue answerer that's #9 (or #6?) in Defense (and even higher in Arms Manufacturing) that keeps switching places with me.
He's pretty cool and fun to talk to


And Pencil's stats are simply amazing
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:42 am

Queen Yuno wrote:Nice work
There's an issue answerer that's #9 (or #6?) in Defense (and even higher in Arms Manufacturing) that keeps switching places with me.
He's pretty cool and fun to talk to


And Pencil's stats are simply amazing

Hehe, I kept swapping with Sankh-Lanport for a few weeks back - we kept switching between 20th and 21st.

Now who overtook who. ;) But it's a matter of time before they overtake me again! ^^;
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Postby Warzone Codger » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:45 am

Now this is my type of content. Great job compiling the list
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Postby Golgothastan » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:48 am

This is great work!

I am surprised The Grendels or Nak Nak didn't make the list.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:56 am

Great work! A few questions though:
1. How often do you plan on releasing updates to the list?
2. Would it be possible for you to list top 20 instead of 10? I mean, the top few are pretty much cemented to their spots, so a more comprehensive list might be more exciting.
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Postby Bedetopia » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:38 am

What a merry coincidence, I was working on a related project I call the Tour of Excellence.

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Postby Noahs Second Country » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:52 am

Nice list!

I'm surprised The Dark System isn't a couple places higher, considering the puppetmaster also has 20ish other nations with impressive stats of their own.
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Postby Land Without Shrimp » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:50 am

As someone who doesn't have a lot of time for NS...I appreciate the fact that I can just answer issues for five minutes a day and still make progress towards a goal. Issue answering is what I do in NS. Limited time and reasonable satisfaction. All that to say....I really appreciate this topic, PS2! =) Gives me something to strive for, even though I think I've given up on any World #1s (just too..far...behind...). Now just going for those shiny Region #1s =)

I liked seeing the cream of the crop here, both being exposed to players I didn't previously know about...and of course, seeing some players up there that did not surprise me (Tzo...for being #1 in one of my fav stats. And of course, you, PS2, with your army of puppets). Would definitely appreciate updates to this list and more content of this type!! Let me know if there's any way I can help.

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Postby Tyranis21 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:55 am

Nice work.

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Postby Comfed » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:02 am

No surprises here.
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Postby Pencil Sharpeners 2 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:09 pm

Thanks for the kind words everyone! I'm glad people liked this.
Bormiar wrote:
Pencil Sharpeners 2 wrote:I have no idea how other players manage their issues, but my colossal spreadsheet allows me to quickly zip through 40 issues per day with few slip-ups in my quest for census dominance.

I gotta hear more about this.

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It's fairly straightforward. Each column is a nation; each row is an issue. The options I have chosen are written in each box and traffic light coded. Options in brackets are ones which didn't work as well as the option not in brackets in that cell, essentially just to remind me to not choose them again. Blue cells are issues that I dismiss. I started this from scratch about 4 years ago and it continues to be an evolving work in progress as the NS tech guys make changes, my priorities change, and my understanding of the game engine changes.
Golgothastan wrote:I am surprised The Grendels or Nak Nak didn't make the list.

A couple of years ago they probably would have, but neither answer issues any more and they have slipped in the rankings too much to justify a place in the top 10.
Honeydewistania wrote:Great work! A few questions though:
1. How often do you plan on releasing updates to the list?
2. Would it be possible for you to list top 20 instead of 10? I mean, the top few are pretty much cemented to their spots, so a more comprehensive list might be more exciting.

1. At the top of the rankings, changes are very rare, so I'm unlikely to do more than one per year. Even annual reports will not likely have many changes. I'd like to wait until something significant has happened before updating this.
2. Maybe I could do 11-20? I'm not sure. I'm also thinking of maybe doing an "up and coming" list for the newer players, but we will see.
Noahs Second Country wrote:I'm surprised The Dark System isn't a couple places higher, considering the puppetmaster also has 20ish other nations with impressive stats of their own.

The Dark System has puppets? I had no idea.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:15 pm

Pencil Sharpeners 2 wrote:Maybe I could do 11-20? I'm not sure. I'm also thinking of maybe doing an "up and coming" list for the newer players, but we will see.

I'd love to see this.
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:17 pm

Ohh yeah, 11-20, or expanding towards relatively newer players would be nice. This Top 10 is a pretty nice list, but I would always love to see more! ^^


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Postby Noahs Second Country » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:07 pm

The Dark System has puppets? I had no idea.

The Dark System is a puppet https://www.nationstates.net/nation=kyl ... /id=421233
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Postby Pencil Sharpeners 2 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:39 pm

Noahs Second Country wrote:
The Dark System has puppets? I had no idea.

The Dark System is a puppet https://www.nationstates.net/nation=kyl ... /id=421233

Oh wow, they are one of the Kyldellian nations. I had no idea. Doesn't really change the listing for now though, but it's something for me to look out for in the future. Thanks for letting me know.
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Postby Fauzjhia » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:53 pm

pfff. there is some corruption in that ranking, been playing and answering issues daily for like 5 years. even before the cards farming.

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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:30 pm

Of another interesting trait that I think deserves a mention is the number of badges (gold, Top 5%, Top 10%) that a single nation has at most time. Or rather, the combined Sum of Ranks across ALL the stats.

I still have my outdated data, but the trends and my point remains the same that there are indeed nations that has A LOT of badges going for them - some might make it to gold, some might drop down. It's an interesting category on its own, too! ^^

The smaller the Sum of All Ranks, the more badges that nation potentially has in terms of stats, because of how most of their stats are not min-maxed.

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Postby Warzone Codger » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:04 pm

Is it possible to have a Top 10 Good Nations and a Top 10 Bad Nations ranking? It will be subjective depending on what you consider good or bad, but this might be more interesting compared to just Top issue players which rarely changes.
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