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Which GCR will be the next to suffer a coup?

Poll ended at Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:22 am

The North Pacific
9
13%
The East Pacific
8
11%
The South Pacific
5
7%
The Pacific
2
3%
The West Pacific
11
15%
Lazarus
20
28%
Osiris
3
4%
Balder
9
13%
The Rejected Realms
4
6%
 
Total votes : 71

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Qvait
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Founded: Mar 08, 2012
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Postby Qvait » Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:37 am

If Atlae is an NPO plant and also intruded, what you're saying is that there's a chance that I can intrude the NPO.
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Xoriet
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Postby Xoriet » Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:40 am

Qvait wrote:If Atlae is an NPO plant and also intruded, what you're saying is that there's a chance that I can intrude the NPO.

Over my dead body. >:(
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Unibot III
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Postby Unibot III » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:37 pm

Xoriet wrote:
Unibot III wrote:
I'll never understand why NPO Senators believe that "I'm a NPO Senator" makes them sound like a more credible source when it comes to the goals and deliberations of the NPO Senate. The NPO Senate does not operate on the basis of public transparency or public accountability. The NPO Senate is the governing body of an autocratic regime. Your allegiance is to the Order and to the Emperor.

While I'm absolutely sure that the NPO would have tried to prevent the consolidation of power by the Rahls in the East Pacific and the West Pacific prior to the Scardino coup, and have heard as much from past NPO officials, the reality was the NPO was at its weakest point politically and diplomatically at that point in time. In terms of NPO's external interests, Scardino's failed takeover was the next best thing.

Describing NPO's Cold War influence in TEP and TWP as "purely natural" is downplaying the severity of the influence that the NPO once had in TEP and TWP. I'm sure there are people who earnestly believe that it is good for the NPO to have a foothold in TEP, that without a strong NPO-TEP connection, TEP's system of government might cosmopolitanize. The irony of the NPO is it's cosmopolitanism for regionalists!

The official who told you that did see the Rahls as a rival because that was his game. Of course, the fact that you accused him of NPO planning to support the Rahls in TWP and TEP kind of guaranteed that there was only one good response. Frankly, I regret that he entertained himself by speaking with you about anything relevant, but everyone likes to find hobbies when they have time to kill.


I wasn't referring to a single senator, I said "past NPO officials." I was describing de facto NPO foreign policy.

Frankly, I find it remarkable following this bouncing ball. You've climbed down from "that wasn't NPO's policy position" to "if it was our policy, we would have acted on it sooner" to "it was the position of the most preeminent members of the NPO, but they're just some isolated views, and how dare they share their intentions with you."
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:46 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Xoriet wrote:The official who told you that did see the Rahls as a rival because that was his game. Of course, the fact that you accused him of NPO planning to support the Rahls in TWP and TEP kind of guaranteed that there was only one good response. Frankly, I regret that he entertained himself by speaking with you about anything relevant, but everyone likes to find hobbies when they have time to kill.


I wasn't referring to a single senator, I said "past NPO officials." I was describing de facto NPO foreign policy.

Frankly, I find it remarkable following this bouncing ball. You've climbed down from "that wasn't NPO's policy position" to "if it was our policy, we would have acted on it sooner" to "it was the position of the most preeminent members of the NPO, but they're just some isolated views, and how dare they share their intentions with you."

You forgot the key detail: previous, prior, before time, primordial, antediluvian.
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Postby Qvait » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:31 pm

Xoriet wrote:
Qvait wrote:If Atlae is an NPO plant and also intruded, what you're saying is that there's a chance that I can intrude the NPO.

Over my dead body. >:(

So you have chosen death. :p
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Xoriet
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Postby Xoriet » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:54 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Xoriet wrote:The official who told you that did see the Rahls as a rival because that was his game. Of course, the fact that you accused him of NPO planning to support the Rahls in TWP and TEP kind of guaranteed that there was only one good response. Frankly, I regret that he entertained himself by speaking with you about anything relevant, but everyone likes to find hobbies when they have time to kill.


I wasn't referring to a single senator, I said "past NPO officials." I was describing de facto NPO foreign policy.

Frankly, I find it remarkable following this bouncing ball. You've climbed down from "that wasn't NPO's policy position" to "if it was our policy, we would have acted on it sooner" to "it was the position of the most preeminent members of the NPO, but they're just some isolated views, and how dare they share their intentions with you."

I'll spell it out for you.

1) This wasn't our policy.
2) Because someone wouldn't stop spouting nonsense, it became necessary to point out that there would have been a strategic time and place to actually intervene if that had ever been any kind of plan. You're so obsessed with pursuing this absurd notion that there is an evil plan somewhere and if you keep shouting it from the rooftops, someone might believe it. Learn to tell the difference between waffling and strategic analysis of a situation.
3) I don't speak for the old Senate but I definitely know that they didn't have plans to go in. Again, I have access to things you don't.
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Postby DoLlYsTaNa » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:56 pm

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Postby Unibot III » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:25 am

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Unibot III wrote:
I wasn't referring to a single senator, I said "past NPO officials." I was describing de facto NPO foreign policy.

Frankly, I find it remarkable following this bouncing ball. You've climbed down from "that wasn't NPO's policy position" to "if it was our policy, we would have acted on it sooner" to "it was the position of the most preeminent members of the NPO, but they're just some isolated views, and how dare they share their intentions with you."

You forgot the key detail: previous, prior, before time, primordial, antediluvian.


Primordial is a big word to use for a couple of years. :lol2: Especially for an organization that’s old enough to secure a full driver’s licence.

This is a ridiculous conversation, the NPO is simultaneously asserting that ‘it wasn’t NPO’s foreign policy to oppose the Rahls’ and ‘even if it was it wasn’t widely held’ and ‘we never acted on that policy’ and ‘we’re an entirely new organization’ and ‘not responsible for them’ and ‘that’s ancient news’ and ‘you can’t know this,’ ‘you shouldn’t know this,’ ‘how dare you know this,’ and ‘you’re wrong!!! I have access to contradicting information !!’

We’ve exhausted every excuse, every bad defence under the sun. The fact remains that at one time, TEP was closely held within NPO’s sphere of influence until the Rahls consolidated power there. The fall of the Rahls has opened up an opportunity for the NPO to restore its political and cultural influence in TEP. And the legal-political context in TEP that enabled the ‘soft coup’ of the Rahls still seems to be very much present.
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Postby Warzone Codger » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:34 am

Well what's your answer Uni and NPO folks? You keep bumping the thread..

I haven't put in an answer yet either. I'll go with TEP or Osiris. Now we wait.
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Postby Xoriet » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:29 am

Warzone Codger wrote:Well what's your answer Uni and NPO folks? You keep bumping the thread..

I haven't put in an answer yet either. I'll go with TEP or Osiris. Now we wait.

I didn't vote for any of them, nor put thought into which one is a likely candidate for targeting. I have a strong aversion for coups and it is also in largely bad taste to speculate on which region should be couped for x dumb reason or state that you hope one happens for the funsies, as well as being particularly unwise when in certain political positions.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:36 am

Warzone Codger wrote:Well what's your answer Uni and NPO folks? You keep bumping the thread..

I haven't put in an answer yet either. I'll go with TEP or Osiris. Now we wait.

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Postby A mean old man » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:40 am

Arguments with Unibot are circular, just like his flag. "The only winning move is not to play."
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Postby Elegarth » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:51 pm

A mean old man wrote:Arguments with Unibot are circular, just like his flag. "The only winning move is not to play."

Ditto!
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Postby Marrabuk » Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:15 pm

The next GCR to be coup I think should be The Rejected Eastern Northern South Western Pacific Realm.
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Postby Dominioan » Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:17 pm

-insert the next GCR to be taken over here-
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:42 pm

A mean old man wrote:Arguments with Unibot are circular, just like his flag. "The only winning move is not to play."

I’d say his flag is more rectangular, but your point is correct
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:47 am

Comfed wrote:Welcome all to this thread, where we predict when a Game Created Region will be couped, and when. Place your bets, because the rewards are... non-existent.

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Postby Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:29 pm

Neither, all look pretty stable to me.
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