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Postby Yokiria » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:26 pm

Unfortunate name, but you seem genuine. Beware of fascists hiding behind the "anti-communist" banner, and vice versa. Also, don't be fooled by the resident charlatans of NSGP, the CCD.

Best of luck.
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Postby Gorundu » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:06 pm

Goring 6 wrote:To hell with both ideologies.

Pardon me if I'm a bit skeptical of someone saying this when their nation name is the name of one of the most famous Nazis and the nation flag has an iron cross on it.
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Postby Blood Wine » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:49 am

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:
I'm well aware of the history involved, however in modern times the context has changed

(also, not a communist)

No it hasn't. The Iron Front didn't just magically disappear from history. I think you're just not aware of the history involved despite saying otherwise.



:facepalm:

I'm talking about the type of names, eg iron cross, iron front, ect, being fascist-eque names
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:15 am

Blood Wine wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:No it hasn't. The Iron Front didn't just magically disappear from history. I think you're just not aware of the history involved despite saying otherwise.



:facepalm:

I'm talking about the type of names, eg iron cross, iron front, ect, being fascist-eque names

The 'Iron Cross' predates the 'Iron Front' by over a hundred years so I still am unconvinced that you know what you're talking about.
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Postby Blood Wine » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:25 am

That's okay, I don't trust you to know anything :rofl:
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Postby Frattastan IV » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:28 am

Blood Wine wrote:I'm talking about the type of names, eg iron cross, iron front, ect, being fascist-eque names


I assume that you believe the Red Cross and red pandas are communist-esque by the same reasoning.
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Postby Blood Wine » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:29 am

Frattastan IV wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:I'm talking about the type of names, eg iron cross, iron front, ect, being fascist-eque names


I assume that you believe the Red Cross and red pandas are communist-esque by the same reasoning.


Nope
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Postby Nogodia » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:30 am

People, people... Anyone who wants to auto-associate "Iron" with fascism needs to take a big step back. Frankly, this looks rather nice, but I'm wholly uninterested in raiding-defending, so I'll just wish them luck by saying the usual line:

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Postby Weed » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:30 am

Frattastan IV wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:I'm talking about the type of names, eg iron cross, iron front, ect, being fascist-eque names


I assume that you believe the Red Cross and red pandas are communist-esque by the same reasoning.

No Fratt, he said 'Cross' is fascist word. The Red Cross are Marxist Fascists at best.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:32 am

Nogodia wrote:People, people... Anyone who wants to auto-associate "Iron" with fascism needs to take a big step back. Frankly, this looks rather nice, but I'm wholly uninterested in raiding-defending, so I'll just wish them luck by saying the usual line:

Death or Democracy! Strike the balance of liberty and protection of society and bow never to the silver tongue of fascists or the empty promises of the communists. THIS NATION SHALL HAVE DEATH, OR DEMOCRACY!

I would recommend swapping the placement of "death" and "democracy" in those slogans for better speaking effect. "Death or Democracy" sounds morbid, but "Democracy or Death" sounds threatening.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:32 am

Weed wrote:
Frattastan IV wrote:
I assume that you believe the Red Cross and red pandas are communist-esque by the same reasoning.

No Fratt, he said 'Cross' is fascist word. The Red Cross are Marxist Fascists at best.

Is Blood Wine scared of the NazBols? :lol2:
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Postby Weed » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:39 am

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
Weed wrote:No Fratt, he said 'Cross' is fascist word. The Red Cross are Marxist Fascists at best.

Is Blood Wine scared of the NazBols? :lol2:

Maybe, maybe not, IDK, I'd say blood is almost as central a tenant in Nazi propoganda/imagery as iron.

Just what kind of wine are we marketing here?

I'm probably at risk of dragging us off topic now, but I join the crowd ridiculing the idea of words 'sounding fascist'.
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Postby Blood Wine » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:08 am

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
Weed wrote:No Fratt, he said 'Cross' is fascist word. The Red Cross are Marxist Fascists at best.

Is Blood Wine scared of the NazBols? :lol2:


Why would I be afraid of something i can fix with a baseball bat?
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Postby Goring 6 » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:14 am

Gorundu wrote:
Goring 6 wrote:To hell with both ideologies.

Pardon me if I'm a bit skeptical of someone saying this when their nation name is the name of one of the most famous Nazis and the nation flag has an iron cross on it.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 1PWZiJKoAj

Oh.

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German: Gouverneurin(femminile) Gouverneur(maschile)

(Oh what it will take to get the provinces set up with the proper nations)


Btw the Reich is supposed to emulate the 2nd Reich (German Empire) not the 3rd.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:08 am

Blood Wine wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Is Blood Wine scared of the NazBols? :lol2:


Why would I be afraid of something i can fix with a baseball bat?

Ha! Do yourself a favour and pre-plan the nearest route to the hospital before your musclehead tries swinging at anyone, nevermind a Nazbol. :lol2:
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Postby Uan aa Boa » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:37 am

Gorundu wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Got an explanation for the influx of TNP nations coming from jump point?

It seems for an anti-fascist region, your region isn't terribly knowledgeable on who the fascists are or how R/D gameplay works. Your previous Delegate approved a proposal written by a fascist, so we felt compelled to know them down from their seat to cancel the approval.

Still smiling that the first notable thing that happened to this anti-fascist region was being on the receiving end of anti-fascist military action.

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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:01 am

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Gorundu wrote:It seems for an anti-fascist region, your region isn't terribly knowledgeable on who the fascists are or how R/D gameplay works. Your previous Delegate approved a proposal written by a fascist, so we felt compelled to know them down from their seat to cancel the approval.

Still smiling that the first notable thing that happened to this anti-fascist region was being on the receiving end of anti-fascist military action.

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:34 pm

>Liberal status:
>[x] spooked
>[ ] unspooked|


I admire those who want to form a broad coalition against fascism, but honestly, there's no point in being antifascist *and* anticommunist. Some of the most ardent opponents of fascism have been communists. You'd have better luck joining us than fighting us.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:00 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:>Liberal status:
>[x] spooked
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I admire those who want to form a broad coalition against fascism, but honestly, there's no point in being antifascist *and* anticommunist. Some of the most ardent opponents of fascism have been communists. You'd have better luck joining us than fighting us.

Joining communists is defeating half the point.

They want to combat communists and fascists.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:13 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:>Liberal status:
>[x] spooked
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I admire those who want to form a broad coalition against fascism, but honestly, there's no point in being antifascist *and* anticommunist. Some of the most ardent opponents of fascism have been communists. You'd have better luck joining us than fighting us.

Some people like democracy
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Postby Gagium » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:21 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:there's no point in being antifascist *and* anticommunist.

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Postby Caedallin » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:49 am

Iron Front Founder wrote: curb the spread of both fascism and communism, and end oppression altogether. We will bring freedom and democracy to the Nationstates universe.


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Postby Purple Rats » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:39 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:>Liberal status:
>[x] spooked
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I admire those who want to form a broad coalition against fascism, but honestly, there's no point in being antifascist *and* anticommunist. Some of the most ardent opponents of fascism have been communists. You'd have better luck joining us than fighting us.


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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun May 17, 2020 6:38 am

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Tinhampton wrote:"Iron Front" sounds an awful lot like a fascist region. Why isn't it, and what's the reason behind the name?

The name is based on a political movement in Weimar Germany

Antifascism is one of our core tenets

I remember seeing a Reddit with the same name.

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