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Postby Badassistanian » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:40 pm

No State Here wrote:
Gorundu wrote:Best way to get back to GP is probably not to join a new region with a questionable name.

Do you just, not bother to click links or something?

I find it incredibly funny that a neo feudalist like yourself is in favor of this lmao

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Postby Steppe Khanate » Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:09 am

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No State Here wrote:Do you just, not bother to click links or something?

'cept most people in this game just see "iron" and think "fascists". Plus my emphasis was more on the "new region" part, especially given the founder doesn't have any reputation that I know of.

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32 days ago: Steppe Khanate ceased to exist in Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.

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Postby No State Here » Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:15 am

Gorundu wrote:
No State Here wrote:Do you just, not bother to click links or something?

'cept most people in this game just see "iron" and think "fascists".

I don’t know why you’d think that considering there’s a literal link you can click which shows you where the name came from and the three arrow symbolism is still used by anti fascists today
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Postby Gorundu » Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:39 am

No State Here wrote:
Gorundu wrote:'cept most people in this game just see "iron" and think "fascists".

I don’t know why you’d think that considering there’s a literal link you can click which shows you where the name came from and the three arrow symbolism is still used by anti fascists today

Maybe because it's incredibly obscure and multiple people have already reacted that way in this thread?
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Postby No State Here » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:10 am

Gorundu wrote:
No State Here wrote:I don’t know why you’d think that considering there’s a literal link you can click which shows you where the name came from and the three arrow symbolism is still used by anti fascists today

Maybe because it's incredibly obscure and multiple people have already reacted that way in this thread?

I guess so, but after explaining everything and clearing misconceptions, it seems odd to continue accusing the region of being fascist when it’s clearly anything but
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:14 am

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Gorundu wrote:Maybe because it's incredibly obscure and multiple people have already reacted that way in this thread?

I guess so, but after explaining everything and clearing misconceptions, it seems odd to continue accusing the region of being fascist when it’s clearly anything but

A lot of antifascist regions on NS tend to have a soft spot for communism, so a region that’s against both is rare (not saying it’s bad, I love the idea)
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Postby No State Here » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:41 am

Aureumterra wrote:
No State Here wrote:I guess so, but after explaining everything and clearing misconceptions, it seems odd to continue accusing the region of being fascist when it’s clearly anything but

A lot of antifascist regions on NS tend to have a soft spot for communism, so a region that’s against both is rare (not saying it’s bad, I love the idea)

That’s the reason this region was so attractive to me, considering many regions which are anti-fascist also either condone communism or are "neutral" with communism, which is picking one evil over another
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Postby Union of Albandrite Socialist Republics » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:46 am

Iron Front Founder wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:"Iron Front" sounds an awful lot like a fascist region. Why isn't it, and what's the reason behind the name?

The name is based on a political movement in Weimar Germany

Antifascism is one of our core tenets


They did such a good job getting the fascists out of power
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:50 am

Union of Albandrite Socialist Republics wrote:
Iron Front Founder wrote:The name is based on a political movement in Weimar Germany

Antifascism is one of our core tenets


They did such a good job getting the fascists out of power

I don't think that disparaging the efforts of Weimar antifascist activists merely because you disagree with a region named after them sets a particularly good precedent, ngl. I can think of better ways to criticise it than that.
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Postby No State Here » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:51 am

Union of Albandrite Socialist Republics wrote:
Iron Front Founder wrote:The name is based on a political movement in Weimar Germany

Antifascism is one of our core tenets


They did such a good job getting the fascists out of power

Are you one of the people trying to say an antifascist region is fascist because it also opposes communism? This region really seems to bring out the hypocrite in people
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Postby Gagium » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:15 am

Union of Albandrite Socialist Republics wrote:
Iron Front Founder wrote:The name is based on a political movement in Weimar Germany

Antifascism is one of our core tenets


They did such a good job getting the fascists out of power

Just like Antifaschistische Aktion, eh? :)
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Postby No State Here » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:21 am

Region: We oppose communism and fascism

Half of NS: You oppose communism? You must be a fascist!
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:25 am

No State Here wrote:NS: You oppose communism? You must be a fascist!

I don't see anyone calling you a fascist for opposing communism. Address the actual criticism that's been levelled against you, not this completely fictitious nonsense.
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Postby Rovid-9 » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:49 pm

This region idea is interesting! I agree with one sentiment that's been pointed out, that in the face of fascists, communist and socialist ideologies are often accepted with open arms, or at the very least with apatethic disconcern. Having a region activly go against both? It'll certianly be on my dosier.

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Postby Kaystein » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:05 pm

EDIT 2: Since I'm joining a feeder I don't have much of a choice but to tolerate the communists for now. So Until some further notice you won't hear anything from me.


EDIT: According to some posters in this thread the word 'iron' is fascist. 35% of the earth's mass is called 'iron'. Therefore 35% of all mass on earth must be fascist... /fucklogic
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:07 pm

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Postby Uan aa Boa » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:28 pm

If you were to succeed in fielding a military force, would you be willing to cooperate with Antifa, NationStates most active anti-fascist military organisation, or would the fact that The Red Fleet and Korean Peoples Army are members prevent you from doing that?

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:29 pm

Uan aa Boa wrote:If you were to succeed in fielding a military force, would you be willing to cooperate with Antifa, NationStates most active anti-fascist military organisation, or would the fact that The Red Fleet and Korean Peoples Army are members prevent you from doing that?

Now that sounds like a compromise of principles if I've ever seen one.
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Postby 4chan Unity » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:34 pm

I'm not a fascist but I wouldnt consider myself a conservative or centrist either....
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Postby Uan aa Boa » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:35 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Now that sounds like a compromise of principles if I've ever seen one.

It does, but I ask because Antifa is already pretty quick to hit vulnerable fascist regions, so an anti-fascist force that wouldn't work with them would be pretty redundant. And conversely if there was a credible anti-communist military force the fascists would inevitably be involved. So what to do if you won't associate with either?

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Postby The Holy League of Saint Peter » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:41 pm

Fashmaster wrote:
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The iron fist of justice must be blind because it's smashed quite a few fascist orders too.


Justice has no connection to the evil concept of Antifascism. Antifascism is primitive and ignorant. The Antifascist is an ideological Luddite rejecting revolution and progress. The libertine-degenerate status quo has polluted the Earth, enslaved the working class, neutered nations, and weakened the human race as a species. Communism would continue to do the same.

Honor, glory, and justice can only be found through struggle and strength of will. These things are unique to Fascism alone, sorry. You have now been educated on the truth. You may rejoice now in your newfound enlightenment.


Implying that revolution and "progress" are a good thing and have no been the reason for the libertine-degenerate status quo you so hate.

Also "Honor, glory, and justice can only be found through struggle and strength of will. These things are unique to Fascism alone" thats a joke in of itself.

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Postby Ayro Va » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:49 pm

Badassistanian wrote:its real anti centrist hours, my dudes... finally, something the reds and the nazis can agree on


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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:26 pm

Considering the region seems to be growing fairly well, I might actually join and try my hand at some R/D, been years since I did my last operation
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Postby Gorundu » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:59 am

Uan aa Boa wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Now that sounds like a compromise of principles if I've ever seen one.

It does, but I ask because Antifa is already pretty quick to hit vulnerable fascist regions, so an anti-fascist force that wouldn't work with them would be pretty redundant. And conversely if there was a credible anti-communist military force the fascists would inevitably be involved. So what to do if you won't associate with either?

They will be ignored and forgotten, as is bound to happen after this thread dies down, which it inevitably will.
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Postby Prozitia » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:02 am

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