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Postby Numero Capitan » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:06 am

All Wild Things wrote:I'd add that it needs rebranded though. NSWF is just too close to NSFW, and last time, that genuinely put some people off from attending.


Don't see why it couldn't just be the World Fair/WF, most of us know what website we're on.
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:10 am

Sounds like a decent idea.

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Postby Kringalia » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:05 pm

It could always be called NationStates World Expo, or even something shorter and more to the point, like NS2020. Or both.
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Postby North Cross » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:10 pm

Numero Capitan wrote:Don't see why it couldn't just be the World Fair/WF, most of us know what website we're on.


If we simply call it the "World's Fair," we risk the actual World's Fair sending us a cease-and-desist letter :P

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Postby Pangurstan » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:12 pm

North Cross wrote:
Numero Capitan wrote:Don't see why it couldn't just be the World Fair/WF, most of us know what website we're on.


If we simply call it the "World's Fair," we risk the actual World's Fair sending us a cease-and-desist letter :P

It could be called the Global Carnival or something like that.

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Postby Errol Jar » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:34 pm

Call it "Yearly Event Congregating NationStates Players On Several Platforms To Discuss Several Topics And Generally Have Fun", YECNSPOSPTDSTAGHF for short, I'm sure that'd be an easier acronym to take than NSWF.

Point is, the name doesn't matter as long as we can get something out of it, right?

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Postby Twins of Hearts » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:25 pm

I am very excited about this!

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Postby Hammascus » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:00 pm

First off, what is the the NS World Fair?

Secondly, why not just call it World Fair of NationStates 2020 (WFNS '20) or just the NationStates Expo 2020 (NSX 2020)?

Third, when were the first 8 and what happened at the last one?

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Postby New Solaurora » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:03 pm

NSX 2020 sounds cleanest out of any of the other recommendations. Also it has an X which is one of the coolest letters in the latin alphabet.
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Postby Imkiville » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:23 am

Hammascus wrote:... what happened at the last one?

I happened. :p
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Postby Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:08 am

An event like that would be interesting break from the bleak reality around us. Nice idea. (Haven't attended previous NS World Fairs).
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:14 am

I think members The North Pacific ensured that The NS World Fair was indefinitely tarnished.

If we do go ahead with it, nobody who was on the previous fair's planning committee should have any level of involvement.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:22 am

Hammascus wrote:First off, what is the the NS World Fair?

It's a yearly festival for all regions of NationStates. We all gather together and share our culture with one another. It's always been a place for regions to put their best foot forward. It drove us all to be innovative and creative. It was an engine of cultural creativity. Also the best event in NationStates every year.
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Postby Hammascus » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:48 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:I think members The North Pacific ensured that The NS World Fair was indefinitely tarnished.

If we do go ahead with it, nobody who was on the previous fair's planning committee should have any level of involvement.


What does this mean? What happened?

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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:03 am

Give me control of the committee. I despise you all equally and thus won't exhibit bias towards anyone.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:37 am

Hammascus wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:I think members The North Pacific ensured that The NS World Fair was indefinitely tarnished.

If we do go ahead with it, nobody who was on the previous fair's planning committee should have any level of involvement.


What does this mean? What happened?

Due to defamation rules I can’t give the full rundown on-site, but a couple members of the NSWF Administration Team who also happened to be Administrators in The North Pacific banned Imkiville from the WF based on unfounded allegations rooted in a personal vendetta (by a former TNP Delegate who has thankfully mostly quit the game since then) without any of the standard due process.
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Postby Hammascus » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:52 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:Due to defamation rules I can’t give the full rundown on-site, but a couple members of the NSWF Administration Team who also happened to be Administrators in The North Pacific banned Imkiville from the WF based on unfounded allegations rooted in a personal vendetta (by a former TNP Delegate who has thankfully mostly quit the game since then) without any of the standard due process.

How very uncool

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:09 am

Hammascus wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:Due to defamation rules I can’t give the full rundown on-site, but a couple members of the NSWF Administration Team who also happened to be Administrators in The North Pacific banned Imkiville from the WF based on unfounded allegations rooted in a personal vendetta (by a former TNP Delegate who has thankfully mostly quit the game since then) without any of the standard due process.

How very uncool

y u p

It happened roughly in the middle of the World Fair, and basically killed it on the spot. Personally, I don't want to see it return, but if it does there needs to be a serious increase in standards for the moderation part of it.
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Postby New Solaurora » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:16 am

Fun idea for NSX 2020:
There is no single host region but a single delegate from multiple commended regions that work together!

(and I will die on the hill that is the name "NSX 2020")
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Postby Ambrella » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:18 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Hammascus wrote:How very uncool

y u p

It happened roughly in the middle of the World Fair, and basically killed it on the spot. Personally, I don't want to see it return, but if it does there needs to be a serious increase in standards for the moderation part of it.

As a member of the aforementioned committee, I still think there's merit to the idea of a world fair, though I think it would be wise to change the name and concept a bit to avoid affiliation with the previous run of fairs. Whether or not it's just to judge the whole project based on the failures of the last one is irrelevant because the brand is tarnished at this point. I've taken responsibility for the mistakes we made, and I hope any future events learn from our mistakes.

One recurring problem is that who is and is not blacklisted varies from region to region, so no one will ever truly be happy with decisions to exclude (or not exclude) certain players. I have no interest in trying to adjudicate that, and I hope whoever takes up the mantle of this event gives this issue some serious thought and lays out their rules upfront.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:27 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Hammascus wrote:How very uncool

y u p

It happened roughly in the middle of the World Fair, and basically killed it on the spot. Personally, I don't want to see it return, but if it does there needs to be a serious increase in standards for the moderation part of it.

Is Europeia still considered the gold standard when it comes to regional moderation?
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Postby Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:07 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Is Europeia still considered the gold standard when it comes to regional moderation?

Depends on who you'll ask, most likely.
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Postby Big Bad Badger » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:54 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Hammascus wrote:How very uncool

y u p

It happened roughly in the middle of the World Fair, and basically killed it on the spot. Personally, I don't want to see it return, but if it does there needs to be a serious increase in standards for the moderation part of it.


They had standards earlier in the week when an anti-semite was spouting hate speak. But when Imki showed up...bam!
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Postby Kazakah » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:58 am

This should happen!
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Postby Hammascus » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:35 am

Big Bad Badger wrote:They had standards earlier in the week when an anti-semite was spouting hate speak. But when Imki showed up...bam!

I have many questions and very few have been answered. If you can't say it here then can someone just TG me what happened?

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