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Jim the Baptist
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Why is my safety so low?

Postby Jim the Baptist » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:24 am

My nation has really low safety at top 88% and I am really confused why.
My crime is low (top 75%), I have decent law enforcement (top 20%), average youth rebelliousness (top 50%), low weaponisation (top 62%) and arms manufacturing (top 97%). I also have strong compliance (top 26%) and recreational drug use is not notable (top 46%) although that does not necessarily even make a nation unsafe. People basically do not have guns or weapons and they are reluctant to commit crimes, in fact crime itself is extremely low but my safety is terrible.
Is safety a primary or a secondary stat? Can anyone explain why my safety would be so low?

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Postby Holdac » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:26 am

37% of your populace dies from sacrifices and 30% from acts of god...

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Postby Khoronzon » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:34 am

Not entirely sure myself, the above answer probably has something to do with it, but judging by the progression of your safety stat it looks like there was one issue that you answered a while back which caused your safety to suddenly plummet and it just hasn't changed much since. Maybe you could look through your stat changes around that date to try and get a better idea of what happened.
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Postby Jim the Baptist » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:36 am

Holdac wrote:37% of your populace dies from sacrifices and 30% from acts of god...


But what are you suggesting acts of God means? That doesn't necessarily imply it's a bad thing? I understand ritual sacrifice, but I still feel like my high compliance, high law enforcement, low crime, low weaponisation, average youth rebelliousness etc. should counteract the ritual sacrifice policy, so top 88% for safety still seems ridiculously low.

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Postby Holdac » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:38 am

Jim the Baptist wrote:
Holdac wrote:37% of your populace dies from sacrifices and 30% from acts of god...


But what are you suggesting acts of God means? That doesn't necessarily imply it's a bad thing? I understand ritual sacrifice, but I still feel like my high compliance, high law enforcement, low crime, low weaponisation, average youth rebelliousness etc. should counteract the ritual sacrifice policy, so top 88% for safety still seems ridiculously low.

your populace are religous extremists

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Postby Jim the Baptist » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:39 am

Holdac wrote:your populace are religous extremists


But why does that necessarily mean because we are very religious that the country is not safe? People can be religiously fanatic but peaceful. If it wasn't safe, shouldn't I have high crime? I am not even a theocracy.
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Postby Christ Triumphant » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:41 am

Just get rid of your human sacrifice. Things will look a lot better for you after that.

Also, your nation is quite new. Stats will swing quite wildly in the beginning. Wait for your nation to grow a bit and things to settle out, and then see where you stand.

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Postby Holdac » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:42 am

Jim the Baptist wrote:
Holdac wrote:your populace are religous extremists


But why does that necessarily mean because we are very religious that the country is not safe? People can be religiously fanatic but peaceful. If it wasn't safe, shouldn't I have high crime? I am not even a theocracy.

they can be peaceful; yours are not.

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Postby Port Miguelle » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:44 am

Jim the Baptist wrote:
Holdac wrote:your populace are religous extremists


But why does that necessarily mean because we are very religious that the country is not safe? People can be religiously fanatic but peaceful. If it wasn't safe, shouldn't I have high crime? I am not even a theocracy.

Some stats do not influence others contrary stats. I have seen people with high compliance yet decent crime.

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Postby Jim the Baptist » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:45 am

Holdac wrote:they can be peaceful; yours are not.


Based on what though? The religious sacrifice policy alone does not explain the safety stat.

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Postby Holdac » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:46 am

Jim the Baptist wrote:
Holdac wrote:they can be peaceful; yours are not.


Based on what though? The religious sacrifice policy alone does not explain the safety stat.

would you consider a country safe if more than 1/3 of the population dies from sacrifices?

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Postby Jim the Baptist » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:47 am

Holdac wrote:would you consider a country safe if more than 1/3 of the population dies from sacrifices?


Well my crime is totally unknown and extremely low, sounds pretty safe to me.

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Postby United Cyran Systems » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:48 am

Jim the Baptist wrote:
Holdac wrote:they can be peaceful; yours are not.


Based on what though? The religious sacrifice policy alone does not explain the safety stat.

The stat's low because of the sacrifice and the fact your new. Keep playing for a while and it'll rise. Unless you make decisions like allowing everyone to shoot fireworks at each other of course.
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Postby Holdac » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:48 am

Jim the Baptist wrote:
Holdac wrote:would you consider a country safe if more than 1/3 of the population dies from sacrifices?


Well my crime is totally unknown and extremely low, sounds pretty safe to me.

that doesn't answer my question

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Postby Jim the Baptist » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:06 am

Holdac wrote:that doesn't answer my question


In response to your question, I am talking holistically. Yes I have the ritual sacrifice policy which I agree isn't doing any favours for my safety. But at the same time as I said before, considering a whole host of other stats which should positively affect my safety (low crime, high law enforcement, low weaponisation, high compliance etc.) I don't believe safety should be top 88% because those should well and truly counteract the negative impact of the ritual sacrifice policy. That's only one small factor and I just listed at least 4 things that should be great for safety.
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Postby Khoronzon » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:13 am

Jim the Baptist wrote: That's only one small factor and I just listed at least 4 things that should be great for safety.

It's not a minor factor when it accounts for well over a third of the deaths in your nation. You also have a relatively significant portion of accidental deaths - 4.8% doesn't seem like much but that stat is typically very low and your percentage is a fair bit higher than average from what I've seen. It's kind of like how black market activity gets noted as significant when it makes up at least 1% of a nation's GDP.
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