Is Nationstates Dying?

[Daytime to Night]

people tend to aggrandize the past generally as to build up personal reputations.

Best one line review of NS I've seen tbf

[The Blaatschapen]

TSP, always defender in practice? I remember times, long, long ago...

Oh, wait, you're a 2018 nation.

*shakes cane* Get off my lawn! It's my dinner!

Are you my inner voice?

I was just reading a thing from an old DEN website back when there were 45k nations, some of my funnest memories come from those times.

You wish I was your inner voice.

I'd make puns all the time, you'd be happier person for it, constantly smiling

[Drop Your Pants]

You wish I was your inner voice.

I'd make puns all the time, you'd be happier person for it, constantly smiling

I can confirm the above statement. You get over the cravings for grass after a while too.

[Wabbitslayah]

Osiris, for example, has a larger military then all other feeders currently around

Really...

Yes, really. That's how Osiris invaded St Abbaddon and managed to take it over. Were you not there?

[New Rogernomics]

I'd say the game itself isn't dying, and is surely growing.

But Gameplay isn't as entertaining as it used to be for plenty of players.

[Platinia]

My main problem with NS is that there just aren't enough issues per day. When I came back after 10 years of inactivity I thought that amount had changed to something like one issue every hour or two. Turns out that was only temporary for a day or so, which is unfortunate because if it was at least 12 issues a day rather than 4, then I would be inclined to play a lot more. There is a lot that I want to change in my nation from past choices but its just way too slow for issues to make much of a difference. Now with the amount of issues being over 1200, its hard to roll one that does make a significant change that I want. If people here feel that is too many per day, then surely the option to throttle it would be there like it is now?

[Darkesia]

My main problem with NS is that there just aren't enough issues per day. When I came back after 10 years of inactivity I thought that amount had changed to something like one issue every hour or two. Turns out that was only temporary for a day or so, which is unfortunate because if it was at least 12 issues a day rather than 4, then I would be inclined to play a lot more. There is a lot that I want to change in my nation from past choices but its just way too slow for issues to make much of a difference. Now with the amount of issues being over 1200, its hard to roll one that does make a significant change that I want. If people here feel that is too many per day, then surely the option to throttle it would be there like it is now?

First: Wow! That's an old nation. Welcome back!

Second: I am shocked that a player that's been around as long as you have is saying there aren't enough issues. There is a ton of issues now! For years, I ignored that aspect of the game and frankly, I would not have been enticed to mess with it, if I had not become enthralled with the trading cards. Linking issue-answering to new cards was brilliant. I can't be the only one that came back to issue answering because of it.

As for the speed at which the new issues are disseminated, it's much faster than it used to be. Making it even faster would add nothing of value to the game, imho. There are far more issues to handle with hilarious outcomes. There are so many different aspects to NS, the issues just seem like a drop in the ocean, to me.

Come get involved in GP! There are coups to be planned!

[The Blaatschapen]

It's noticeably getting more and more unpopular but I don't think this website will ever completely die out. ♂♀Copy and Paste this in your sig if you know there are 2 genders and didn't fail biology, and know that sex an gender are the same♂♀

Tell me how copy and pasting that stuff is relevant to the topic?

[Aclion]

It's noticeably getting more and more unpopular but I don't think this website will ever completely die out. ♂♀Copy and Paste this in your sig if you know there are 2 genders and didn't fail biology, and know that sex an gender are the same♂♀

Tell me how copy and pasting that stuff is relevant to the topic?

I think he doesn't know how to set up a sig properly.

[Liddell Hart]

No, it's not dying. Max is just shifting focus towards the launch of Nationstates2...

[The Blaatschapen]

No, it's not dying. Max is just shifting focus towards the launch of Nationstates2...

Again?

[Jar Wattinree]

No, it's not dying. Max is just shifting focus towards the launch of Nationstates2...

NationStates 2: Electric Boogaloo?

[Liddell Hart]

No, it's not dying. Max is just shifting focus towards the launch of Nationstates2...

NationStates 2: Electric Boogaloo?

Sounds like it could really jolt things up a bit.

[-Ocelot-]

NationStates of today is more or less 4chan's truckler, so it will always have new members coming here from 4chan to LARP their favorite iteration of neo-fascism.

Most traditional internet forums are dead or dying because everyone has moved to social media. Thankfully, NS is good at attracting people who believe social media are persecuting them and thus it will persist for the foreseeable future.

[Merconitonitopia]

No, it's not dying. Max is just shifting focus towards the launch of Nationstates2...

Again?

I heard that didn't work out too well last time.

[Kyrusia]

[snip]

Zaqistan: *** Warning for spam/threadjacking. *** If you feel the need to express some sort of opinion that request others to do the same in their sig, put it in your sig. Instead, all you're doing is spamming/threadjacking an entirely unrelated topic. You've already lost an exceptionally large amount of nations in your exceptionally short time here. I suggest you read the rules and adhere to them if you wish to remain welcome here at all. Now.

Edit: Actually, considering you're a player evading a *** Delete-on-Sight order ***, you're already unwelcome. Your status hasn't changed. You'll have to find somewhere else to play.

[Valentine Z]

I don't think it is dying. I mean, I hope it doesn't. I love RPing here, amongst many other things.

Please let me have this PG-13 haven, when all the other RP sites will (more or less, not all the time) devolve into M18+ regions.

No, it's not dying. Max is just shifting focus towards the launch of Nationstates2...

NationStates 2: Electric Boogaloo?

Oh goodness no. I was not around to see that, but I've heard horrible things.

[Bluelight-R006]

NationStates is dying. But it doesn’t mean the game will completely shut down in the future. The game is becoming less talked about, the updates have already pushed the game to the fullest, and NS is getting to its peak popularity.

But it doesn’t mean the number of nations will decrease. There’s a strong likelihood it will increase, just not as fast as before.

Also, NationStates 2 closed down back in 2007-8?

[-Ocelot-]

NationStates is dying.the updates have already pushed the game to the fullest

That's not true. Just look at the forum structure. It hasn't been modernized or received new features because it's too much work.

I'm not saying that it should but I am saying that NS is a far cry from being fully improved.

NS 2 was a failed project that died a few months after it's launch, I believe? That happened ~10 years ago. NS2 had a war system but no forums IIRC. Don't know why it was shut down.

[East Malaysia]

and NS is getting to its peak popularity.

I think it's peak popularity was between 2004-2009. Hard to say if it is dying or now as it is a niche game and we don't know the true number of unique players vs puppets. Back when we hit the population low, a lot of us thought the game wouldn't have made it to this point, but here we are.

NS 2 was a failed project that died a few months after it's launch, I believe? That happened ~10 years ago. NS2 had a war system but no forums IIRC. Don't know why it was shut down.

Jolt is what happened. A greedy group of people. But nonetheless that whole fiasco ended up with Max gaining full control over NS and the birth of this forum everyone uses today.

[Nakena]

NationStates of today is more or less 4chan's truckler, so it will always have new members coming here from 4chan to LARP their favorite iteration of neo-fascism.

The containment board called NSG is not representative for NS as a whole.

Most traditional internet forums are dead or dying because everyone has moved to social media. Thankfully, NS is good at attracting people who believe social media are persecuting them and thus it will persist for the foreseeable future.

True. Which being said, I have another strong suspicion, namely that Discord did suck away a lot of activity from the regions and the forums.

[Merconitonitopia]

I think it's peak popularity was between 2004-2009.

Going by the numbers this doesn't sound right. The number of nations was consistently declining year-after-year in this time, with more than 100,000 in '05 down to fewer than 50,000 at one point in '09.
NS's peak year was probably 2017 and it's been smooth sailing since then.

Hard to say if it is dying or now

It's not.

[Drop Your Pants]

The nation count is never a good measurement of NS activity. R/D and misc puppets makes up for a good amount of the nations and the card game has only increased it. WA members would be better.

[Adam Monroe]

Making the regional founder's powers expire after 6 months would make the game a lot more fun in terms of R/D. All current established UCRs would be up for grabs essentially in terms of power. Regional influence would need to be amended as well. Making regions something people have to actually protect would make R/D a lot more fun and would also make the WA (and the fact players can only have one WA) actually consequential.

[-Ocelot-]

NationStates of today is more or less 4chan's truckler, so it will always have new members coming here from 4chan to LARP their favorite iteration of neo-fascism.

The containment board called NSG is not representative for NS as a whole.

Most traditional internet forums are dead or dying because everyone has moved to social media. Thankfully, NS is good at attracting people who believe social media are persecuting them and thus it will persist for the foreseeable future.

True. Which being said, I have another strong suspicion, namely that Discord did suck away a lot of activity from the regions and the forums.

Discord is what I use, too. It is miles better than NS for regional communication.

As for NSG, it is the most active subforum. And has the same rules as all other subforums. If a group of people can game the rules like a violin in NSG, they can do so elsewhere. It does represent what NS is today, perhaps more than anything else.