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Marxist Germany
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Founded: Jun 07, 2018
Corporate Bordello

Postby Marxist Germany » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:29 am

after its founder ran away and cried because I banjected him.

And that is how we know you are lying.
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Jebslund
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Founded: Sep 14, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Jebslund » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:34 am

The Intruder wrote:I did refound Owyhee, after its founder ran away and cried because I banjected him.

No. I believe that you refounded Owyhee, but not that the founder had any interaction whatsoever with you. Given your lack of skill regarding raiding, it's far more likely that you simply looked to see what regions have gone dead, refounded one at random, and then pretended you raided it to make yourself look better. As I said before, you lack the patience to wait out your gain in influence and their inactivity. Regions with active founders are pretty much invulnerable in the short term, as you need a fair amount of influence to even eject them, let alone banject them. Literally the only way you could have banjected an active founder is if you joined the region almost immediately after its founding and the founder stopped being active for more than a week before becoming active again.
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New Excalibus
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby New Excalibus » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:34 am

Not gonna lie, this made my day.
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The Intruder
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Founded: Oct 03, 2019
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby The Intruder » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:41 am

Jebslund wrote:
The Intruder wrote:I did refound Owyhee, after its founder ran away and cried because I banjected him.

No. I believe that you refounded Owyhee, but not that the founder had any interaction whatsoever with you. Given your lack of skill regarding raiding, it's far more likely that you simply looked to see what regions have gone dead, refounded one at random, and then pretended you raided it to make yourself look better. As I said before, you lack the patience to wait out your gain in influence and their inactivity. Regions with active founders are pretty much invulnerable in the short term, as you need a fair amount of influence to even eject them, let alone banject them. Literally the only way you could have banjected an active founder is if you joined the region almost immediately after its founding and the founder stopped being active for more than a week before becoming active again.

The founder (Chechnea) possibly didn't know what raiding is and promoted an obvious raider puppet, A Random Raider, to the asked position. About influence- the region was quite new and nobody had much influence. Also, as far as I know, there is no way to find out which regions CTE without watching the region's page before and after the update, as regions that CTE- unlike nations- don't show up on the activity page.
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Jebslund
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Founded: Sep 14, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Jebslund » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:15 am

The Intruder wrote:The founder (Chechnea) possibly didn't know what raiding is and promoted an obvious raider puppet, A Random Raider, to the asked position. About influence- the region was quite new and nobody had much influence. Also, as far as I know, there is no way to find out which regions CTE without watching the region's page before and after the update, as regions that CTE- unlike nations- don't show up on the activity page.


Yeah, still calling bull here, mate. Look up a region called The Krakken.
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Shockingly, we *do* use NS stats, with the exception of lifespan.
Singular sapient: Jebslunder
Plural Sapient: Jebslunden
Singular/Plural nonsapient: Kermanic
Note: When a verb can logically only be done by the sapient using/piloting/holding the object in question, then the appropriate demonym for the number of sapients is used.

Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism are ECONOMIC SYSTEMS. Stop conflating them with political systems.

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Obi-Wan 8
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Founded: Mar 07, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Obi-Wan 8 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:25 am

The Intruder wrote:its founder ran away and cried because I banjected him.

Say "I believe everything that I hear" if you believe this.

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The Intruder
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Founded: Oct 03, 2019
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby The Intruder » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:31 am

Obi-Wan 8 wrote:
The Intruder wrote:its founder ran away and cried because I banjected him.

Say "I believe everything that I hear" if you believe this.

Say "I believe lies and laugh at the truth" if you believe this.
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Dahye
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Founded: Sep 26, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Dahye » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:05 pm

The Intruder wrote:
Obi-Wan 8 wrote:Say "I believe everything that I hear" if you believe this.

Say "I believe lies and laugh at the truth" if you believe this.

i got 2 spyglass sheets from 2/21/19 and 3/13/19 that say ur full of shit and that region is nowhere to be seen until you created it as a fucking """trohpy""" that you """refounded""" after u """raided""" it

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Marxist Germany
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Founded: Jun 07, 2018
Corporate Bordello

Postby Marxist Germany » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:44 pm

Dahye wrote:
The Intruder wrote:Say "I believe lies and laugh at the truth" if you believe this.

i got 2 spyglass sheets from 2/21/19 and 3/13/19 that say ur full of shit and that region is nowhere to be seen until you created it as a fucking """trohpy""" that you """refounded""" after u """raided""" it

You need not flame the person to prove your point.
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The Krakken
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Founded: Mar 27, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The Krakken » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:06 pm

Obi-Wan 8 wrote:
The Intruder wrote:its founder ran away and cried because I banjected him.

Say "I believe everything that I hear" if you believe this.

Seriously, though. And you'd have to be awfully lucky to even get in this close to the ground floor of a region forming if you didn't plan it that way. Intruder, dude, give it up. The more you try to talk yourself up here, the more you're going to ruin your credibility. Come clean and start fresh. Maybe even find a mentor to show you the ropes of raiding.

EDIT: Yes, I'm a Jebslund puppet.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:31 pm

Dahye wrote: ur full of shit

Given your history across puppet nations, *** 3-day ban for flaming ***.

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Indo-Malaysia
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Founded: Nov 07, 2014
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Indo-Malaysia » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:47 am

Jebslund wrote:
New Agraces wrote:I did raid your region, though. I changed the WFE to something you didn't like. I just wasn't able to keep the region as a trophy region, unlike Owyhee.

Hey, kid. That's not raiding. Raiding is taking *and keeping* a region. Getting banjected from the region by the founder is one of the dumbest ways to fail a raid. You were never in control. You changed the WFE only because I permitted it to see if you could actually pull off a raid. Clearly, however, you cannot, leading me to believe that Owyhee is a region you yourself founded (or refounded) and pretended to have raided. You lack the patience for raiding.

What about Tag Raiding :)
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East Meranopirus
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Founded: Jul 28, 2018
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby East Meranopirus » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:29 am

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
Jebslund wrote:Hey, kid. That's not raiding. Raiding is taking *and keeping* a region. Getting banjected from the region by the founder is one of the dumbest ways to fail a raid. You were never in control. You changed the WFE only because I permitted it to see if you could actually pull off a raid. Clearly, however, you cannot, leading me to believe that Owyhee is a region you yourself founded (or refounded) and pretended to have raided. You lack the patience for raiding.

What about Tag Raiding :)

Then they lack the discipline. Or knowledge. Or anything, really.
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Padfootia
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Founded: Jan 13, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Padfootia » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:49 am

The Intruder wrote:
Jebslund wrote:No. I believe that you refounded Owyhee, but not that the founder had any interaction whatsoever with you. Given your lack of skill regarding raiding, it's far more likely that you simply looked to see what regions have gone dead, refounded one at random, and then pretended you raided it to make yourself look better. As I said before, you lack the patience to wait out your gain in influence and their inactivity. Regions with active founders are pretty much invulnerable in the short term, as you need a fair amount of influence to even eject them, let alone banject them. Literally the only way you could have banjected an active founder is if you joined the region almost immediately after its founding and the founder stopped being active for more than a week before becoming active again.

The founder (Chechnea) possibly didn't know what raiding is and promoted an obvious raider puppet, A Random Raider, to the asked position. About influence- the region was quite new and nobody had much influence. Also, as far as I know, there is no way to find out which regions CTE without watching the region's page before and after the update, as regions that CTE- unlike nations- don't show up on the activity page.

Do you have any experience in raiding?


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East Meranopirus
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Founded: Jul 28, 2018
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby East Meranopirus » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:52 am

Padfootia wrote:Do you have any experience in raiding?

Funny you should ask that. Do you have any experience in raiding?
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Minister of World Assembly Affairs of The North Pacific
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I post on the forums almost exclusively with this nation.

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Padfootia
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Founded: Jan 13, 2019
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Postby Padfootia » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:01 am

East Meranopirus wrote:
Padfootia wrote:Do you have any experience in raiding?

Funny you should ask that. Do you have any experience in raiding?

Yes, and I believe my question was for New Agraces.


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New Agraces
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Founded: Jun 29, 2017
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby New Agraces » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:21 am

Padfootia wrote:Do you have any experience in raiding?

Yes, I raided Owyhee.
Intruders is the best raider region in NationStates!

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Jebslund
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Founded: Sep 14, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Jebslund » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:34 am

New Agraces wrote:
Padfootia wrote:Do you have any experience in raiding?

Yes, I raided Owyhee.

No, you didn't. Give up, dude. You're fooling exactly no one.
Jebslund is a nation of kerbals ruled by Emperor Jebediah Kerman. We reject tyranny, believing that rights should be protected, though we also believe said rights end where the rights of others begin.
Shockingly, we *do* use NS stats, with the exception of lifespan.
Singular sapient: Jebslunder
Plural Sapient: Jebslunden
Singular/Plural nonsapient: Kermanic
Note: When a verb can logically only be done by the sapient using/piloting/holding the object in question, then the appropriate demonym for the number of sapients is used.

Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism are ECONOMIC SYSTEMS. Stop conflating them with political systems.

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Padfootia
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Postby Padfootia » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:03 am

New Agraces wrote:
Padfootia wrote:Do you have any experience in raiding?

Yes, I raided Owyhee.

How did you know how to raid before "raiding" Owyhee.


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The Intruder
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Founded: Oct 03, 2019
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby The Intruder » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:45 pm

Padfootia wrote:
New Agraces wrote:Yes, I raided Owyhee.

How did you know how to raid before "raiding" Owyhee.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=faq

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Bowzin
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Founded: Aug 13, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Bowzin » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:43 pm

The Intruder wrote:
Padfootia wrote:How did you know how to raid before "raiding" Owyhee.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=faq

Hey if you want to really know the details of raiding and how to improve at it, I would recommend joining an established org, like LWU or TBH, in order to expand your knowledge, The information contained on the FAQ page is not nearly enough. Once you have some experience, that's when I would recommend you go back to trying to boot up this region :) Feel free to poke at me with any questions, your enthusiasm speaks of great potential if you are just pointed in the right direction.
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Marxist Germany
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Founded: Jun 07, 2018
Corporate Bordello

Postby Marxist Germany » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:13 pm

The Intruder wrote:
Padfootia wrote:How did you know how to raid before "raiding" Owyhee.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=faq

You should consider defending really, raiding is overrated.
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Lord Visoraxus
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Founded: Jul 30, 2019
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Lord Visoraxus » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:31 am

This region is a disgrace to raiding.
Darkness shall rise!


If you read this, I will raid your region.

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Wayneactia
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Founded: Aug 01, 2014
New York Times Democracy

Postby Wayneactia » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:12 am

Lord Visoraxus wrote:This region is a disgrace to raiding.


And I assume The Shadows are the pinnacle of raiding performance?

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East Meranopirus
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Posts: 541
Founded: Jul 28, 2018
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby East Meranopirus » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:35 am

Marxist Germany wrote:

You should consider defending really, raiding is overrated.

XKI turned you fenda?
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