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Cataluna
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Postby Cataluna » Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:55 pm

Novum Vallis wrote:Yes we chose to go isolationist, yet after Red himself said not to continue this thread any further we still see people trashing on our region.

May it never be said that fascists don't change their minds
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Novum Vallis
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Postby Novum Vallis » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:06 pm

Cataluna wrote:
Novum Vallis wrote:Yes we chose to go isolationist, yet after Red himself said not to continue this thread any further we still see people trashing on our region.

May it never be said that fascists don't change their minds

What?

Forget it let's just stop it right here.

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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:08 pm

Im smart and know that Redlandia is a bunch of commies in disguise. 8)
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Postby Qwabour Harbour » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:06 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Cataluna wrote:You'll find his other nation at Honeydewistania

Makes sense, as he loves to post under numerous different aliases on the forum, as if they're different people.


Um what? This is a publicly known identity of mine, besides I forgot to log out last time.

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Greater vakolicci haven
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:20 pm

Qwabour Harbour wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Makes sense, as he loves to post under numerous different aliases on the forum, as if they're different people.


Um what? This is a publicly known identity of mine, besides I forgot to log out last time.

I honestly didn't know that you were the same person, you might want to list it in your various signatures.

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Postby Aclion » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:18 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Redlandia is a bunch of commies in disguise. 8)

Sounds like fascists to me.
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Postby Kaystein » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:39 pm

Hmm, let me look through redlandia's discord and forum real quick. I'll contribute my two cents after.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:35 pm

Aclion wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Redlandia is a bunch of commies in disguise. 8)

Sounds like fascists to me.

Communists are almost the opposite of fascists.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby Kaystein » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:07 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Aclion wrote:Sounds like fascists to me.

Communists are almost the opposite of fascists.


They're just different branches from the same tree of socialism, actually.
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Postby The Gilded Star » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:10 pm

Kaystein wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Communists are almost the opposite of fascists.


They're just different branches from the same tree of socialism, actually.


Different wings of authoritarianism, I would say.

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Postby Kaystein » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:14 pm

The Gilded Star wrote:
Kaystein wrote:
They're just different branches from the same tree of socialism, actually.


Different wings of authoritarianism, I would say.


Half-true, since you've got anarcho-communists running around on NS. You don't really have any anarchy-inspired forms of fascism. Unless you count madness.
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Postby The Gilded Star » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:34 pm

Kaystein wrote:
The Gilded Star wrote:
Different wings of authoritarianism, I would say.


Half-true, since you've got anarcho-communists running around on NS. You don't really have any anarchy-inspired forms of fascism. Unless you count madness.


Anarcho-fascism would probably be in line with the Mad Max world or so, so you're not entirely wrong there.

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Real Socialism Has Never Been Tried
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Postby Real Socialism Has Never Been Tried » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:33 pm

The Gilded Star wrote:
Kaystein wrote:
Half-true, since you've got anarcho-communists running around on NS. You don't really have any anarchy-inspired forms of fascism. Unless you count madness.


Anarcho-fascism would probably be in line with the Mad Max world or so, so you're not entirely wrong there.

Per Wikipedia:
"Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties."

It's literally impossible to be both fascist and anarchist. They are literally polar opposite ideologies.

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Postby The Gilded Star » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:16 am

Real Socialism Has Never Been Tried wrote:
The Gilded Star wrote:
Anarcho-fascism would probably be in line with the Mad Max world or so, so you're not entirely wrong there.

Per Wikipedia:
"Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties."

It's literally impossible to be both fascist and anarchist. They are literally polar opposite ideologies.


That description honestly sounds like it could fit Mad Max raider clans perfectly. The anarchy part would be that human civilization has completely collapsed and the only law of the land is "might makes right".

Anyway, I'm not trying to list an actual anarcho-fascist state, but a concept that would come as close to satisfying both ideologies as possible. For that same reason, though, I question how anarcho-communism would even work.

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Postby Kurnugia » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:54 am

The Gilded Star wrote:
Real Socialism Has Never Been Tried wrote:Per Wikipedia:
"Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties."

It's literally impossible to be both fascist and anarchist. They are literally polar opposite ideologies.


That description honestly sounds like it could fit Mad Max raider clans perfectly. The anarchy part would be that human civilization has completely collapsed and the only law of the land is "might makes right".

Anyway, I'm not trying to list an actual anarcho-fascist state, but a concept that would come as close to satisfying both ideologies as possible. For that same reason, though, I question how anarcho-communism would even work.

First, this is just plain stupid. By your logic, we are all living in an anarcho fascist state. Foreign relations 101: Between nations, there is only anarchy. And yeah, *checks china* might makes right.

Secondly, the Mad Max clans are not based on nationalism but rather on territorial states. You know... nationalism is kinda the centrepiece of fascism.

Lastly, AnCom is when democracy gets extended to the economy.
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Vanquaria
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Postby Vanquaria » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:22 am

Lmao except the Mad Max factions depicted in the most recent film are attempting to subjugate the post-nuclear landscape under their rule and their law. It's literally the opposite of what anarchists strive for.
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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:46 pm

Redlandia is pretty much gone now.
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Postby Furbish Islands » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:09 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Redlandia is pretty much gone now.

This is so sad. Alexa play Despacito.


Also can we get an F in chat for Redlandia?

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