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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:51 am

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Postby Primorye Oblast » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:09 pm

The article about the recent Europeian Senate election has been plagiarized word for word and we were not informed of any intention to use our original content. The attribution was also incorrect, as noted above. Our media outlet is called the Europeian Broadcasting Corporation.

Our original dispatch can be found here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1266889

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Postby Bowzin » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:26 pm

Just my own two cents here, but if you want to start a successful newspaper, you should probably have your own articles instead of copy pasting articles from other sources, regardless of if they are properly attributed, which it seems you haven't done.
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Newark Aristocracy » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:14 pm

Well,well,some copypasta.

LETS RANSACK THIS NEWS PAPER
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Wymondham
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Postby Wymondham » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:16 am

Bowzin wrote:Just my own two cents here, but if you want to start a successful newspaper, you should probably have your own articles instead of copy pasting articles from other sources, regardless of if they are properly attributed, which it seems you haven't done.

^
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The Newspaper Boy
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Newspaper Boy » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:50 am

Primorye Oblast wrote:The article about the recent Europeian Senate election has been plagiarized word for word and we were not informed of any intention to use our original content. The attribution was also incorrect, as noted above. Our media outlet is called the Europeian Broadcasting Corporation.

Our original dispatch can be found here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1266889

Do not use our releases for your newspaper without requesting permission.

-- Prim
Chief of State of Europeia

We were really sorry for the inconvenience. We didn't intented to harm you/your region in any way. We just collect the news, mention the source and present it in our Newspaper, with an aim of keeping the NS Community learned about current affairs of NS. (Though, generally, 75% of the articles are reported and collected by our Agency only)

We will be publishing a full acknowledgement letter about EBC, in our next issue, regarding the last article.

Once again we apologize for the inconvenience.
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Postby Wymondham » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:25 am

This is actually so sad to see and quite frankly you should be ashamed of yourself. You have now been found to have plagarised 2 of your articles. You actions damage every newspapers reputation for credibility and journalistic integrity. I hope you are truly ashamed tour your actions
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The Newspaper Boy
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Postby The Newspaper Boy » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:02 am

Wymondham wrote:This is actually so sad to see and quite frankly you should be ashamed of yourself. You have now been found to have plagarised 2 of your articles. You actions damage every newspapers reputation for credibility and journalistic integrity. I hope you are truly ashamed tour your actions

As said I didn't had any intention for plagiarism, further I have already mentioned the sources of the News Articles below the title.

On my part, I accept it was a mistake to publish news from a source (even after mentioning the source) without asking the Owner to use it, for that as well, I have personally telegrammed the owner and apologized.
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Postby East Meranopirus » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:17 am

The Newspaper Boy wrote:
Wymondham wrote:This is actually so sad to see and quite frankly you should be ashamed of yourself. You have now been found to have plagarised 2 of your articles. You actions damage every newspapers reputation for credibility and journalistic integrity. I hope you are truly ashamed tour your actions

As said I didn't had any intention for plagiarism, further I have already mentioned the sources of the News Articles below the title.

On my part, I accept it was a mistake to publish news from a source (even after mentioning the source) without asking the Owner to use it, for that as well, I have personally telegrammed the owner and apologized.

Seeing as the plagiarized article has not been taken down even after the Chief of State of Europeia stated that you did not have their permission to publish it, I do question the sincerity of this apology.
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Wymondham
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Postby Wymondham » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:21 am

East Meranopirus wrote:
The Newspaper Boy wrote:As said I didn't had any intention for plagiarism, further I have already mentioned the sources of the News Articles below the title.

On my part, I accept it was a mistake to publish news from a source (even after mentioning the source) without asking the Owner to use it, for that as well, I have personally telegrammed the owner and apologized.

Seeing as the plagiarized article has not been taken down even after the Chief of State of Europeia stated that you did not have their permission to publish it, I do question the sincerity of this apology.

^
It seems to me that the Independent Newspaper which, it appears, uses a logo that appears identiacal to the old UK Independent logo is perfectly happy to continue with plagiarism until they are forced to stop. How about you start by taking down all of the articles you have published that are plagarised. However that may not leave you with much content left
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Darkesia
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Postby Darkesia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:48 am

A few random thoughts on avoiding plagiarism:
May I suggest a new name along the lines of a news anthology service. Also a clearly stated policy that you are a news gathering service that requests permission before republishing any articles.

As an alternative you can still fulfill your mission of gathering the NS news into one dispatch by simply listing title and links to the appropriate thing. Later, perhaps offer a search service that allows for a nation to search for any time their name or region is mentioned in gathered articles.
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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:44 am

Darkesia wrote:A few random thoughts on avoiding plagiarism:
May I suggest a new name along the lines of a news anthology service. Also a clearly stated policy that you are a news gathering service that requests permission before republishing any articles.

As an alternative you can still fulfill your mission of gathering the NS news into one dispatch by simply listing title and links to the appropriate thing. Later, perhaps offer a search service that allows for a nation to search for any time their name or region is mentioned in gathered articles.


In other words, there's two fairly acceptable paths:

1) Act like a paper that publishes a mix of original and borrowed content, like many papers publish AP content. In that case, the content is used with permission of the original publisher (AP allows papers to pay for its articles, IRL), and with limited attribution [e.g. "SEATTLE (AP)"]. Or, in the middle case, at least write the classic-if-sometimes-sleazy "according to a report by the Washington Post" article-that-just-sums-up-another-article-but-still-links-to-it.

2) Act like a content aggregator or newsletter service, which, like Reddit or the Yahoo homepage, just provides an article headline/blurb, and links through to the original content.
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Kaystein
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Postby Kaystein » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:48 am

You need to drop Your articles that are plagiarized.
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Miss Bad Life Choices
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Postby Miss Bad Life Choices » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:52 am

Kaystein wrote:You need to drop Your articles that are plagiarized.


And to add on to this, if you refuse to remove the articles that are plagiarized, at least properly give them credit. "TEP Announcement" and "Europeia News" are both far from properly giving the authors credit.
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Postby Kaystein » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:04 am

Miss Bad Life Choices wrote:
Kaystein wrote:You need to drop Your articles that are plagiarized.


And to add on to this, if you refuse to remove the articles that are plagiarized, at least properly give them credit. "TEP Announcement" and "Europeia News" are both far from properly giving the authors credit.


To completely derail that, maybe the author of the Independent Newspaper doesn't know what plagiarism is. Heck as a kid growing up nobody in my schools actually bothered to explain to me what it was and how to avoid it. It was just a thing that existed that I had to avoid, and I didn't even know copyright existed until an English teacher told me around fourth grade not to copy parts of wikipedia for my five-paragraph essay.. I still didn't get a decent explanation when I asked. I had to actually research it online. Our tax dollars hard at work for education.

So for the author, I'll lay out what to avoid and what to do appropriately:

NO: Don't Copy/pasting anything from somebody else, at all. Don't even imitate a word from another source. Don't copy somebody else's structure either (google "structure" for writing). Don't use somebody else's ideas throughout your paper.

DO: Write your own words. Format it to however it looks pleasing to you. You can take inspiration from several other sources, so long as it doesn't become copying (google the difference). As far as copying goes, you CAN quote other people, but you need to add quotations to the words you use WHILE listing them as a source. In some cases you may need to ask for permission, but this rule isn't a constant when it comes to publicly viewable forums. You DO need to quote/phrase them and credit them appropriately in any instance.
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Postby Numero Capitan » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:05 am

Please use harvard referencing on your attributions too or we'll all have to come back again and complain about something that literally makes no difference to anyones life or region
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NS Recruitment Centre

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Wymondham
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Postby Wymondham » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:56 am

How useful this would be were it not for the Find a region megathread
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:43 am

Wymondham wrote:How useful this would be were it not for the Find a region megathread

Or recruitment tgs :p
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All Wild Things
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Postby All Wild Things » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:23 pm

Wymondham wrote:How useful this would be were it not for the Find a region megathread

The "NationStates Recruitment Centre" and the "Find a region megathread" have different purposes.
The region is a place for other regions to place "Join my region!" posts.
The megathread is a place for nations to ask "Which region is best for me?"

Lord Dominator wrote:Or recruitment tgs :p

You well know that there are other ways to recruit than TG. For example, advertising your region on other people's WFEs... This is just another method.

Whether or not this new region is a good idea, you both give the impression that you're shitting on it because you're upset about the earlier plagiarism incident.

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Postby Wymondham » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:41 pm

All Wild Things wrote:
Wymondham wrote:How useful this would be were it not for the Find a region megathread

The "NationStates Recruitment Centre" and the "Find a region megathread" have different purposes.
The region is a place for other regions to place "Join my region!" posts.
The megathread is a place for nations to ask "Which region is best for me?"

Lord Dominator wrote:Or recruitment tgs :p

You well know that there are other ways to recruit than TG. For example, advertising your region on other people's WFEs... This is just another method.

Whether or not this new region is a good idea, you both give the impression that you're shitting on it because you're upset about the earlier plagiarism incident.

Are you NS Boy 2 by any chance?
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:13 pm

All Wild Things wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Or recruitment tgs :p

You well know that there are other ways to recruit than TG. For example, advertising your region on other people's WFEs... This is just another method.

Mmm, disagree as to being a viable method, but okay I guess
Whether or not this new region is a good idea, you both give the impression that you're shitting on it because you're upset about the earlier plagiarism incident.[/quote]
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Postby Twilight Imperium » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:56 am

Kaystein wrote:
Miss Bad Life Choices wrote:
And to add on to this, if you refuse to remove the articles that are plagiarized, at least properly give them credit. "TEP Announcement" and "Europeia News" are both far from properly giving the authors credit.


To completely derail that, maybe the author of the Independent Newspaper doesn't know what plagiarism is.


Except that's bullcrap, the definition is in the rules.

if another user steals your designs (and that would be either using images without your permission or reproducing large portions of text unaltered), that is plagiarism which deserves to be its own offense. If you point the moderators at the thread, they'll tell them to knock it off.
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Postby Kaystein » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:24 pm

Twilight Imperium wrote:
Kaystein wrote:
To completely derail that, maybe the author of the Independent Newspaper doesn't know what plagiarism is.


Except that's bullcrap, the definition is in the rules.

if another user steals your designs (and that would be either using images without your permission or reproducing large portions of text unaltered), that is plagiarism which deserves to be its own offense. If you point the moderators at the thread, they'll tell them to knock it off.


Well okay, in this case nevermind.
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Latest Issue Released

Postby The Newspaper Boy » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:31 am

The First Issue of our 3rd Edition is released!

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