Confederation of Corrupt Dictators: Ultimate Gameplay Thread

[Vlamms Statt]

I'm defending my family.

Oh give it a rest.
And you know what? If "regions=family" now? Your "family" tried to destroy my "family." Get off your poorly constructed wooden high horse.

I’d like to ask what makes your region a “family”, as I can quite easily tell you that many of the people within the region have helped both me and many others be better people.
For example,I have been able to help and be helped in tough times, and the discord itself is a place where many feel comfortable expressing themselves, now may I ask, can the North Pacific say the same?

To go along with the claims of ourselves being Nazis, and Fascists,I would like to say, although I know it shall be listed as “lies” and “token evidence” ,that I myself have witnessed little times when someone has been discriminated against for any reason, and when someone does than they are dealt with by either Jocospor or one of the other Supreme council members.
I myself ,although I hate to use this as a reasoning, am polish, and have family members that although no longer here,had experienced the horrors of nazism.

But, that is my two cents, and I urge you to debate it.

[Morover]

Oh give it a rest.
And you know what? If "regions=family" now? Your "family" tried to destroy my "family." Get off your poorly constructed wooden high horse.

I’d like to ask what makes your region a “family”, as I can quite easily tell you that many of the people within the region have helped both me and many others be better people.
For example,I have been able to help and be helped in tough times, and the discord itself is a place where many feel comfortable expressing themselves, now may I ask, can the North Pacific say the same?

To go along with the claims of ourselves being Nazis, and Fascists,I would like to say, although I know it shall be listed as “lies” and “token evidence” ,that I myself have witnessed little times when someone has been discriminated against for any reason, and when someone does than they are dealt with by either Jocospor or one of the other Supreme council members.
I myself ,although I hate to use this as a reasoning, am polish, and have family members that although no longer here,had experienced the horrors of nazism.

But, that is my two cents, and I urge you to debate it.

Being part of both CCD and TNP, I can confirm that TNP is just as much a “family” as CCD is. TNP is larger, but if you put an effort in, they’re very accepting. Honestly, I’d argue that TNP does so better than CCD does.

[CHUCK NORRlS]

It's worth pointing out that certain people from the CCD (e.g. on the RMB) simply don't care that their region is associated with some eyebrow-raising ideologies.

[Transnista]

It's worth pointing out that certain people from the CCD (e.g. on the RMB) simply don't care that their region is associated with some eyebrow-raising ideologies.

Im afraid that throwing a puppet into our RMB and us replying with "we don't care, go away" does not actually constitute proof that we don't care about what you were speaking about.

[WayNeacTia]

My, my, my. Things have seemed to get real here since this morning. My question is, why do you keep giving them attention? No matter what you say, or what evidence is presented, nothing will change. Quit giving Joco apologists a soapbox to stand on.

[Transnista]

My, my, my. Things have seemed to get real here since this morning. My question is, why do you keep giving them attention? No matter what you say, or what evidence is presented, nothing will change. Quit giving Joco apologists a soapbox to stand on.

Sigh. Yes, and we are the ones who "dehumanize our enemies."

[WayNeacTia]

My, my, my. Things have seemed to get real here since this morning. My question is, why do you keep giving them attention? No matter what you say, or what evidence is presented, nothing will change. Quit giving Joco apologists a soapbox to stand on.

Sigh. Yes, and we are the ones who "dehumanize our enemies."

Look, Reppy gave you some solid advice earlier. I seriously recommend following it.

[Boda]

My, my, my. Things have seemed to get real here since this morning. My question is, why do you keep giving them attention? No matter what you say, or what evidence is presented, nothing will change. Quit giving Joco apologists a soapbox to stand on.

Sigh. Yes, and we are the ones who "dehumanize our enemies."

Yeah

[Bormiar]

completely ignores moderator redtext

[Transnista]

Sigh. Yes, and we are the ones who "dehumanize our enemies."

Look, Reppy gave you some solid advice earlier. I seriously recommend following it.

I've calmed down. I apologize for my earlier caustic speech, it was childish. I'm back to the regular scheduled me now.

[Francois Isidore]

Oh give it a rest.
And you know what? If "regions=family" now? Your "family" tried to destroy my "family." Get off your poorly constructed wooden high horse.

I’d like to ask what makes your region a “family”, as I can quite easily tell you that many of the people within the region have helped both me and many others be better people.
For example,I have been able to help and be helped in tough times, and the discord itself is a place where many feel comfortable expressing themselves, now may I ask, can the North Pacific say the same?

To go along with the claims of ourselves being Nazis, and Fascists,I would like to say, although I know it shall be listed as “lies” and “token evidence” ,that I myself have witnessed little times when someone has been discriminated against for any reason, and when someone does than they are dealt with by either Jocospor or one of the other Supreme council members.
I myself ,although I hate to use this as a reasoning, am polish, and have family members that although no longer here,had experienced the horrors of nazism.

But, that is my two cents, and I urge you to debate it.

Speaking as someone who joined the North Pacific eight months ago, I can attest to what Morover said above. The North Pacific is a region with a very large community, and yet its people are also extremely welcoming to both players new and old. They embrace newcomers as their own, and they help guide them through the early phrases of residency into becoming more involved with everything the region has to offer. With more experienced, returning players, they offer an opportunity for rebirth and what you’d even call a second chance of sorts.

They are kind, welcoming, warm, and care about the safety and happiness of their members. I won’t name names, but I’ve met a handful of great North Pacificans whom I interact with on a daily basis. Some of them know more about my RL than others, and some of them I’ve gotten a lot close to more than others. If you’d like to talk about family, then it’s fair to say that families don’t always get along. That’s normal, that’s natural, it’s healthy even. I’m sure in the Confederation players don’t always get along with one another and the same can be said in the North. We’re all human, and we all bleed. Disagreements arise, and we talk amongst one another to work them out.

But to suggest my home couldn’t say the same is misguided at best. The North Pacific can be very tight-knit for being so large a place and its mainstays are truly exceptional presences.

[Sundred]

Well this has been quite the entertaining read for the evening. All I have learned is that the CCD is a region filled with a fascist individual surrounded by an equally fascist personality cult that can not take a hint that their ideology is not welcome more tolerated by the wider community. They cannot take responsibility for their actions or that their beliefs are reprehensible. I look forward to seeing the day that such fascist are no longer a part of this game.

[Transnista]

I’d like to ask what makes your region a “family”, as I can quite easily tell you that many of the people within the region have helped both me and many others be better people.
For example,I have been able to help and be helped in tough times, and the discord itself is a place where many feel comfortable expressing themselves, now may I ask, can the North Pacific say the same?

To go along with the claims of ourselves being Nazis, and Fascists,I would like to say, although I know it shall be listed as “lies” and “token evidence” ,that I myself have witnessed little times when someone has been discriminated against for any reason, and when someone does than they are dealt with by either Jocospor or one of the other Supreme council members.
I myself ,although I hate to use this as a reasoning, am polish, and have family members that although no longer here,had experienced the horrors of nazism.

But, that is my two cents, and I urge you to debate it.

Speaking as someone who joined the North Pacific eight months ago, I can attest to what Morover said above. The North Pacific is a region with a very large community, and yet its people are also extremely welcoming to both players new and old. They embrace newcomers as their own, and they help guide them through the early phrases of residency into becoming more involved with everything the region has to offer. With more experienced, returning players, they offer an opportunity for rebirth and what you’d even call a second chance of sorts.

They are kind, welcoming, warm, and care about the safety and happiness of their members. I won’t name names, but I’ve met a handful of great North Pacificans whom I interact with on a daily basis. Some of them know more about my RL than others, and some of them I’ve gotten a lot close to more than others. If you’d to talk about family, then it’s fair to say that families don’t always get along. That’s normal, that’s natural, it’s healthy even. I’m sure in the Confederation players don’t always get along with one another and the same can be said in the North. We’re all human, and we all bleed. Disagreements arise, and we talk amongst one another to work them out.

But to suggest my home couldn’t say the same is misguided at best. The North Pacific can be very tight-knit for being so large a place and its mainstays are truly exceptional presences.

I'm fully prepared to be laughed out of this forum, and possibly booted from the CCD for saying this. But I actually fully agree with this. And despite our differences, I personally would have no problem with working with the NP, although I know that relationship (and pretty much all others) have been wrecked. I'd like to state, for posterity, that I'd like to get to know you all better, maybe we would even be friends, instead of enemies. To those claiming that I'm just here to spit venom, I assure you that isn't true. I get mad, we all do sometimes, but I try to not insult people, and I deeply apologize for any hurt I may have caused with my loss of temper. I hope that maybe one day some of you will be open to speaking with some of us as friends. I doubt it, and I understand why not. It's just a dream of mine.

And yeah. I get that the NP is a family, just like us. I apologize on the behalf of my family for trying to mess with yours.

[Vlamms Statt]

I’d like to ask what makes your region a “family”, as I can quite easily tell you that many of the people within the region have helped both me and many others be better people.
For example,I have been able to help and be helped in tough times, and the discord itself is a place where many feel comfortable expressing themselves, now may I ask, can the North Pacific say the same?

To go along with the claims of ourselves being Nazis, and Fascists,I would like to say, although I know it shall be listed as “lies” and “token evidence” ,that I myself have witnessed little times when someone has been discriminated against for any reason, and when someone does than they are dealt with by either Jocospor or one of the other Supreme council members.
I myself ,although I hate to use this as a reasoning, am polish, and have family members that although no longer here,had experienced the horrors of nazism.

But, that is my two cents, and I urge you to debate it.

Speaking as someone who joined the North Pacific eight months ago, I can attest to what Morover said above. The North Pacific is a region with a very large community, and yet its people are also extremely welcoming to both players new and old. They embrace newcomers as their own, and they help guide them through the early phrases of residency into becoming more involved with everything the region has to offer. With more experienced, returning players, they offer an opportunity for rebirth and what you’d even call a second chance of sorts.

They are kind, welcoming, warm, and care about the safety and happiness of their members. I won’t name names, but I’ve met a handful of great North Pacificans whom I interact with on a daily basis. Some of them know more about my RL than others, and some of them I’ve gotten a lot close to more than others. If you’d like to talk about family, then it’s fair to say that families don’t always get along. That’s normal, that’s natural, it’s healthy even. I’m sure in the Confederation players don’t always get along with one another and the same can be said in the North. We’re all human, and we all bleed. Disagreements arise, and we talk amongst one another to work them out.

But to suggest my home couldn’t say the same is misguided at best. The North Pacific can be very tight-knit for being so large a place and its mainstays are truly exceptional presences.

Well I apologize if I made it sound like there was no community at all within the North Pacific,it was more of a statement as to how “hey we are human”,as some seem to think we are all just fascists or Nazis, obviously you could never understand how we operate, and I could never understand how you operate,I just wished to throw in my ideas and how we are a family, one that helps each other in the tough times and just treats each other as people asking each other how days went, simple things,but ones that really help people feel connected.

I’d like to ask though, if anyone would like to have any example from the North Pacific,in which they were helped from a tough time in their life, by their community,no pressure or hidden motivation in this,I just wish to understand a community,which I frankly have had little OOC interaction with throughout my nationstates tenure.

[Brobespierre]

Well this has been quite the entertaining read for the evening. All I have learned is that the CCD is a region filled with a fascist individual surrounded by an equally fascist personality cult that can not take a hint that their ideology is not welcome more tolerated by the wider community. They cannot take responsibility for their actions or that their beliefs are reprehensible. I look forward to seeing the day that such fascist are no longer a part of this game.

Its the personality cult that is really out there.

[Francois Isidore]

Well I apologize if I made it sound like there was no community at all within the North Pacific,it was more of a statement as to how “hey we are human”,as some seem to think we are all just fascists or Nazis, obviously you could never understand how we operate, and I could never understand how you operate,I just wished to throw in my ideas and how we are a family, one that helps each other in the tough times and just treats each other as people asking each other how days went, simple things,but ones that really help people feel connected.

I’d like to ask though, if anyone would like to have any example from the North Pacific,in which they were helped from a tough time in their life, by their community,no pressure or hidden motivation in this,I just wish to understand a community,which I frankly have had little OOC interaction with throughout my nationstates tenure.

Your apology is accepted. I can understand where you’re coming from, and that’s why in one of my posts earlier today I said it was sad that innocent residential nations who aren’t tolerant of the same disgusting behavior are being lumped in with those who are fascists or fascist sympathizers and labeled the same. Though it is difficult to distinguish who is from who is not, the Confederation’s leaders are doing their native populace no favours in this regard and it’s quite unfortunate that they may very well have trouble with it later down the line because certain figures are more than willing to drag them through the mud amidst controversy.

The Civil Defense Siren, which the Confederation would like nothing more than to see dismantled, warns newcomers of the dangers of these regions. It’s why I said no self-respecting nation would think highly of such an establishment, and I stand by that because in the early days we can all be naive and misinformed. “The Secret of Freedom Lies in Educating People” - if you give people the information then it’s up to them if they make an informed decision about where to reside and what community to nestle into. The Confederation has a problem with taking responsibility, admitting wrongdoing, and owning up to transgressions they oversaw. Sure, while some of their members don’t care what people think, that doesn’t make people’s concerns any less valid.

In response to your question - I have no obligation to answer or to share details of things that are more personal to me. However, since you’ve approached this in a tone that is driven by curiosity and nothing more I feel as if obliging you would be appropriate. For that, seek my telegram inbox, or on Discord if that suits your fancy. For someone who’s willing to try and see examples of things that others say, I have time. You don’t seem too consumed with rampant denial or a need to try to justify the CCD’s underhanded actions, so compared to some you’re already doing better.

[Prydania]

I’d like to ask though, if anyone would like to have any example from the North Pacific,in which they were helped from a tough time in their life, by their community,no pressure or hidden motivation in this,I just wish to understand a community,which I frankly have had little OOC interaction with throughout my nationstates tenure.

The CCD sets out to destroy my region and now someone from it want to hear feel-good stories of community? Given that, Joco's inability to admit a mistake and reform, and my own ethnic background? I would not feel comfortable sharing personal stories of that nature with CCD citizenry.

[Jocospor]

If Joco really wanted to do some damage control, he would own up to all of the shit that was attempted in this incident, instead of making it much worse by trying to pass the buck.

OOC: I fully intend to and have been in private communication with McM already. I am away on holiday. I will not be making a full statement until February 1st. But what I will say is there won't be any passing of the buck; you've just misinterpreted our Discord concerns.

[South Reinkalistan]

OOC: What on earth did I wake up to?

Ahem. In an attempt to reclaim this thread for sensible regional discussion (and not a battleground for arguments around the misguided notion that the CCD is fascist), shall we, the members of the region, actually use our thread for once? :^)

[Honeydewistania]

OOC: What on earth did I wake up to?

Ahem. In an attempt to reclaim this thread for sensible regional discussion (and not a battleground for arguments around the misguided notion that the CCD is fascist), shall we, the members of the region, actually use our thread for once? :^)

No thread ownership. Suck it up mate, actions have consequences.

[South Reinkalistan]

OOC: What on earth did I wake up to?

Ahem. In an attempt to reclaim this thread for sensible regional discussion (and not a battleground for arguments around the misguided notion that the CCD is fascist), shall we, the members of the region, actually use our thread for once? :^)

No thread ownership. Suck it up mate, actions have consequences.

OOC: Oh no, I wasn't claiming thread ownership - I said that upon the naive basis that the GP forums could hold back their prejudices and not attack our embassy. Looking back on the thread, any discussion of much importance hasn't occurred for at least 6 pages now.

[Honeydewistania]

No thread ownership. Suck it up mate, actions have consequences.

OOC: Oh no, I wasn't claiming thread ownership - I said that upon the naive basis that the GP forums could hold back their prejudices and not attack our embassy. Looking back on the thread, any discussion of much importance hasn't occurred for at least 6 pages now.

Do you seriously believe an attempted coup of the largest region in the game by your region is not of any importance to the gameplay embassy i.e. the place where people discuss matters about your region

[South Reinkalistan]

OOC: Oh no, I wasn't claiming thread ownership - I said that upon the naive basis that the GP forums could hold back their prejudices and not attack our embassy. Looking back on the thread, any discussion of much importance hasn't occurred for at least 6 pages now.

Do you seriously believe an attempted coup of the largest region in the game by your region is not of any importance to the gameplay embassy i.e. the place where people discuss matters about your region

OOC: That'd be a reasonable response, if the embassy was being used to discuss the coup attempt. As it stands, it's just another avenue to say "CCD bad", a charade we've been through many times before.

[WayNeacTia]

Do you seriously believe an attempted coup of the largest region in the game by your region is not of any importance to the gameplay embassy i.e. the place where people discuss matters about your region

OOC: That'd be a reasonable response, if the embassy was being used to discuss the coup attempt. As it stands, it's just another avenue to say "CCD bad", a charade we've been through many times before.

Just a heads up. Any legislation you now attempt to pass (and you are a decent writer btw), is going to be blown out of the water by the delegate with the largest endo count in the game i.e. the Delegate of the North Pacific. You may want to to keep that in mind while you continue to defend the CCD. They aren't doing you any favors and are definitely a detriment to any possible legislative career you may have had here.

[The New California Republic]

If Joco really wanted to do some damage control, he would own up to all of the shit that was attempted in this incident, instead of making it much worse by trying to pass the buck.

OOC: I fully intend to and have been in private communication with McM already. I am away on holiday. I will not be making a full statement until February 1st. But what I will say is there won't be any passing of the buck; you've just misinterpreted our Discord concerns.

I "misinterpreted" your "discord concerns" of an "invisible script"? You have taken the time to lash out by blaming everyone else, so surely you have the time to apologize? Really not buying the "I am away on holiday" thing as an excuse for delaying an apology until Feb 1st in light of that.