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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:28 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:The boundless self-delusion to which Joco can subject himself, to somehow convince himself that he can do no wrong, that the world is somehow at fault and out to get him, is beyond outlandish. And come on! An invisible script in their discord?! What level of irresponsible hubris is at work here? This is illuminati-level crazy, lol.

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Bad: everyone opposed to the confederation
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:08 pm

OOC: Now, now. You've all made your point - you dislike the Confederation. Funnily enough, we already gleamed this information from the last thousand times you said it :^)
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:15 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:OOC: Now, now. You've all made your point - you dislike the Confederation. Funnily enough, we already gleamed this information from the last thousand times you said it :^)

For good reason, given the shit they tried to pull, and then Joco starts making up shit to cover up his faux pas. ;)
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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:18 pm

I think its a little unfair to call us ridiculous for thinking there might be some sort of script or bot in our server, as we have proof that information is being leaked in places it shouldn't be.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:26 pm

The more logical idea is that you have a spy.

Antifa & co are rather good at that sort of thing after all ;)

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:30 pm

Transnista wrote:I think its a little unfair to call us ridiculous for thinking there might be some sort of script or bot in our server, as we have proof that information is being leaked in places it shouldn't be.

Just because the region is riddled with spies and Joco can't control leaks doesn't mean there is an "invisible script" on the discord as he ridiculously claimed.
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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:31 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Transnista wrote:I think its a little unfair to call us ridiculous for thinking there might be some sort of script or bot in our server, as we have proof that information is being leaked in places it shouldn't be.

Just because the region is riddled with spies and Joco can't control leaks doesn't mean there is an "invisible script" on the discord as he ridiculously claimed.


A spy was obviously our first idea. There are reasons we originally ruled that out.

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Postby South Reinkalistan » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:34 pm

OOC: Sigh. I find it really rather tiresome as to how you lot comment on this without the faintest inkling of the situation in the discord.
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In the midst of a room-temperature cultural revolution that's lost its momentum, the Party carefully plans its next move.
As the brittle bones of fragile empires begin to crack beneath their own weight, history's symphony reaches crescendo pitch. The future is all but certain.

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Postby Kuriko » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:39 pm

Transnista wrote:I think its a little unfair to call us ridiculous for thinking there might be some sort of script or bot in our server, as we have proof that information is being leaked in places it shouldn't be.

There is no such thing as a script that allows people to see beyond their masking permissions, which anyone who uses discord knows. As for bots, any discord bot is clearly marked as such and only those with the requisite perms in a server can invite them. No, y'all have a spying problem and that's a fact.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:39 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:OOC: Sigh. I find it really rather tiresome as to how you lot comment on this without the faintest inkling of the situation in the discord.

Never stopped us before

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:41 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:OOC: Sigh. I find it really rather tiresome as to how you lot comment on this without the faintest inkling of the situation in the discord.

We are fully aware of the shit that has been attempted gameside, so this discord nonsense is just some red rag bs to act as a distraction from the laughably bad incompetence of the failed op.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:41 pm

Kuriko wrote:
Transnista wrote:I think its a little unfair to call us ridiculous for thinking there might be some sort of script or bot in our server, as we have proof that information is being leaked in places it shouldn't be.

There is no such thing as a script that allows people to see beyond their masking permissions, which anyone who uses discord knows. As for bots, any discord bot is clearly marked as such and only those with the requisite perms in a server can invite them. No, y'all have a spying problem and that's a fact.


You can scrape some discord html to find the *names* of channels you cannot see, FYI, but certainly not their content.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:44 pm

Kuriko wrote:
Transnista wrote:I think its a little unfair to call us ridiculous for thinking there might be some sort of script or bot in our server, as we have proof that information is being leaked in places it shouldn't be.

There is no such thing as a script that allows people to see beyond their masking permissions, which anyone who uses discord knows. As for bots, any discord bot is clearly marked as such and only those with the requisite perms in a server can invite them. No, y'all have a spying problem and that's a fact.

Yeah I'm really not buying this "invisible script" shit that Joco has made up.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby WayNeacTia » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:13 pm

Transnista wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Just because the region is riddled with spies and Joco can't control leaks doesn't mean there is an "invisible script" on the discord as he ridiculously claimed.


A spy was obviously our first idea. There are reasons we originally ruled that out.

There are far more spies in the CCD that you will ever know. Keep that in mind. :shock:

The New California Republic wrote:Yeah I'm really not buying this "invisible script" shit that Joco has made up.

He's about as believable as a side lot used car salesman. :lol: I have yet to comprehend how is buying people to still defend him on the forums and throw away what could be promising NS careers by associating themselves with the region.

Edit: As much as it pains me to say this, I do have to give credit where it is due. The CCD and in particular several members of the region thrive on attention, and right now they seem to be the centre of the NS universe. Perhaps that was the plan all along? Fuck up so badly everyone has to talk about it, thus giving them the attention they desire?
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Postby Kavagrad » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:25 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Transnista wrote:
A spy was obviously our first idea. There are reasons we originally ruled that out.

There are far more spies in the CCD that you will ever know. Keep that in mind. :shock:


Little do you fools know that I've had Joco on my payroll since Day 1! Mwahahaha! /s
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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:21 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Transnista wrote:
A spy was obviously our first idea. There are reasons we originally ruled that out.

There are far more spies in the CCD that you will ever know. Keep that in mind. :shock:

The New California Republic wrote:Yeah I'm really not buying this "invisible script" shit that Joco has made up.

He's about as believable as a side lot used car salesman. :lol: I have yet to comprehend how is buying people to still defend him on the forums and throw away what could be promising NS careers by associating themselves with the region.

Edit: As much as it pains me to say this, I do have to give credit where it is due. The CCD and in particular several members of the region thrive on attention, and right now they seem to be the centre of the NS universe. Perhaps that was the plan all along? Fuck up so badly everyone has to talk about it, thus giving them the attention they desire?


Not much to look at honestly.

And frankly, I'm quite happy with my NS career thank you very much.

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Postby Xoriet » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:34 pm

Transnista wrote:Not much to look at honestly.

And frankly, I'm quite happy with my NS career thank you very much.

The NS career of anyone in CCD lasts about as long as Jocospor's nation does. If he gets deleted or vanishes and doesn't come back, the entire site will team up on CCD and its members are hardly going to be welcome in the wider community for supporting everything he does, including association with Nazis and obvious and complete disregard for respecting the sovereignty of regions. In case CCD wasn't paying attention last year about this time, people take that seriously. At that point you and yours are about as isolated as ever and will be reliant on allies to come to your rescue. Maybe it will be like TIC and, instead of your allies coming to your rescue, they take a page out of Jocospor's book and recruit from the refugees of the region. That's the example your leader has set for you, the standard he has set for your region, and that is thus the region that the game sees and always will see.
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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:39 pm

Xoriet wrote:
Transnista wrote:Not much to look at honestly.

And frankly, I'm quite happy with my NS career thank you very much.

The NS career of anyone in CCD lasts about as long as Jocospor's nation does. If he gets deleted or vanishes and doesn't come back, the entire site will team up on CCD and its members are hardly going to be welcome in the wider community for supporting everything he does, including association with Nazis and obvious and complete disregard for respecting the sovereignty of regions. In case CCD wasn't paying attention last year about this time, people take that seriously. At that point you and yours are about as isolated as ever and will be reliant on allies to come to your rescue. Maybe it will be like TIC and, instead of your allies coming to your rescue, they take a page out of Jocospor's book and recruit from the refugees of the region. That's the example your leader has set for you, the standard he has set for your region, and that is thus the region that the game sees and always will see.


Frankly, I disagree. Jocospor may be our leader, but our core is the active family of nations who play reliably. If it comes to it, one of us will take control, make a new region if we have to. We are far, far stronger as a confederation than one man.

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Postby Krvava Koupel » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:40 pm

Please note that this is in no way representative of HSM's Government, Jocospor, or the SC of the CCD.

Please, take the time to read this. Maybe this will shed some light on a few people, maybe not. Just... read it please. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1309076
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Postby Bormiar » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:47 pm

Krvava Koupel wrote:Please note that this is in no way representative of HSM's Government, Jocospor, or the SC of the CCD.

Please, take the time to read this. Maybe this will shed some light on a few people, maybe not. Just... read it please. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1309076

I befriended various nations such as Russia Major, 2nd Imperial German Reich, Jamstown, Transnista, and others. I literally owe my life to them, and it's thanks to them, and even Jocospor, that I still play this game.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:07 pm

Xoriet wrote:
Transnista wrote:Not much to look at honestly.

And frankly, I'm quite happy with my NS career thank you very much.

The NS career of anyone in CCD lasts about as long as Jocospor's nation does. If he gets deleted or vanishes and doesn't come back, the entire site will team up on CCD and its members are hardly going to be welcome in the wider community for supporting everything he does, including association with Nazis and obvious and complete disregard for respecting the sovereignty of regions. In case CCD wasn't paying attention last year about this time, people take that seriously. At that point you and yours are about as isolated as ever and will be reliant on allies to come to your rescue. Maybe it will be like TIC and, instead of your allies coming to your rescue, they take a page out of Jocospor's book and recruit from the refugees of the region. That's the example your leader has set for you, the standard he has set for your region, and that is thus the region that the game sees and always will see.

Many people on the site didn't like CCD because of the previous shit, but their ham-fisted attempt at a takeover of TNP is the one thing that is really going to lead to folks having a deep-seated loathing for CCD in the long term. I don't think CCD really knows how damaging this is for them. In recent months they have been making some attempts to clean up their image, but all of that has been completely and utterly wiped out by this incident, and has actually thrown them into net negative territory. I honestly think that the damage that this sheer incompetence has done to their image is irreparable, it'll follow them for years. And what makes it even worse is Joco's absolute refusal to take any of the blame for this, instead trying to turn CCD into the victim in this, the victim of "traitors" and "invisible scripts". If Joco really wanted to do some damage control, he would own up to all of the shit that was attempted in this incident, instead of making it much worse by trying to pass the buck.
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
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Postby Rossiyaana » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:12 pm

Krvava Koupel wrote:Please note that this is in no way representative of HSM's Government, Jocospor, or the SC of the CCD.

Please, take the time to read this. Maybe this will shed some light on a few people, maybe not. Just... read it please. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1309076


This cult of personality around Joco and the absolute unwillingness to admit wrongdoing is part of the reason I dislike the CCD... the other part being the fascist and Nazi elements present in their ranks. Take it from someone who’s been a member, CCD can never be redeemed and they’ll never quit with their antics. In a month or so we’ll see another “joke” repeal of the Liberation or we’ll wake up to another recruitment telegram from Joco.
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Postby Krvava Koupel » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:40 pm

Rossiyaana wrote:
Krvava Koupel wrote:Please note that this is in no way representative of HSM's Government, Jocospor, or the SC of the CCD.

Please, take the time to read this. Maybe this will shed some light on a few people, maybe not. Just... read it please. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1309076


This cult of personality around Joco and the absolute unwillingness to admit wrongdoing is part of the reason I dislike the CCD... the other part being the fascist and Nazi elements present in their ranks. Take it from someone who’s been a member, CCD can never be redeemed and they’ll never quit with their antics. In a month or so we’ll see another “joke” repeal of the Liberation or we’ll wake up to another recruitment telegram from Joco.


Tell me exactly what “wrongdoing” are you referring to? You were not a prominent member of the CCD, in fact I do believe you caused more drama than there should have been in the CCD.

And on the matter of the fascist and nazi elements present, I would love for you to pinpoint for me where exactly you see it. What ranking officer is fascist? The 2nd Imperial German Reich is probably the closest you’ll find, and being a close friend of his, he’s nowhere close to such.
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Postby Krvava Koupel » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:40 pm

Bormiar wrote:
Krvava Koupel wrote:Please note that this is in no way representative of HSM's Government, Jocospor, or the SC of the CCD.

Please, take the time to read this. Maybe this will shed some light on a few people, maybe not. Just... read it please. https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1309076

I befriended various nations such as Russia Major, 2nd Imperial German Reich, Jamstown, Transnista, and others. I literally owe my life to them, and it's thanks to them, and even Jocospor, that I still play this game.

Emphasis mine.

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Postby Pangurstan » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:43 pm

Krvava Koupel wrote:
Rossiyaana wrote:
This cult of personality around Joco and the absolute unwillingness to admit wrongdoing is part of the reason I dislike the CCD... the other part being the fascist and Nazi elements present in their ranks. Take it from someone who’s been a member, CCD can never be redeemed and they’ll never quit with their antics. In a month or so we’ll see another “joke” repeal of the Liberation or we’ll wake up to another recruitment telegram from Joco.


Tell me exactly what “wrongdoing” are you referring to?


I think they’re referring to this.
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