Team Lennox wrote:Jocospor wrote:That may very well be the case, but those who have scrutinised our actions for the greater part of this year will see that we are committed to change and positively interacting with NationStates. Like Blood Wine, you are a dedicated critic of myself and CCD who is also arguably biased. I hope you can appreciate the genuine intent to my apology.
Though I am glad to see you change good job.
Jocospor keep up the good work
Though it will take like a year or two for anyone to take you seriously
Okay this I just can't quite stomach. People do take me seriously, if only for being a regional founder of a large UCR. I get regular telegrams relating to region building and leadership, and also the occasional fan-mail, haha.
I do thank you for your congratulations, but just as I am now trying to phrase everything a little bit nicer, it would be a reassurance to me if others made an attempt at reciprocity. You might not like me, and that's fine, as I've always said, but please don't resort to arguably-inarticulate slander.
The Gilded Star wrote:I'd probably wait at least a year from cutting ties with fascist elements before seeking removal from CDS. It may feel ridiculously long, but it's a counter to CCD's previous history of stalwart alliance with these regions. Might also be best to seek the CDS controllers discreetly (if they'll answer, which I realize is not a guarantee) before turning it into a public campaign, just because I feel the latter will put people on the defensive and be less receptive- again due to CCD's past history of these sorts of campaigns.
The liberation? I think it will be quite difficult to sway public opinion towards removing it. I'd say the CDS listing is the easier (relatively speaking) of the two battles to win first.
CCD's ties to fascism was first and foremost my greatest criticism against CCD, so I'm glad to see CCD continue to reject that ideology and its constituents. I do hope that CCD maintains unwavering in this new stance indefinitely- not for my own personal satisfaction, but for the well-being of CCD's community.
This, on the other hand, I'm quite happy to engage with. I think everything you've written is perfectly reasonable, and if removal from CDS/repeal of SCR#263 takes an extended period of time, that's fine. The most important thing to me, really, is making people understand that CCD really is sorry, and spreading the apology across the game to those that need/want to see it.
Dr ac wrote:1) at some point, such as this case, IC/RP is no longer appropriate when dealing with the wider (and generally speaking completely OOC) NSGP community and should be actively avoided to present a clear picture
2) should probably put that in your dispatch unless I''ve missed it
3) I'll happily expand on this point when the thread is posted, as for the puppet it's probably better to take the puppet out completely and cutting it down to size, it's long and unwieldly
4) I didn't? 1 is for being unclear, and 3 is for aggrandizing
5) How am I being biased though? is all criticism biased?
1) Within the context of an RP game, and if all actions have been conducted in an RP manner from the beginning, then yes, it's entirely appropriate. I'd agree with you if NationStates was social media. It's not - unless you choose to use it in that way, but I have never recommended that, and for good reason.
2) You missed it. Don't draw assumptions where there are none to be made.
3) Okay, appreciated in due course.
4) You seem not to understand; review the point if you wish.
5) No, not all criticism is biased. Your Discord profile was literally deleted following your participation in a raid on CCD's Discord, however, so you do have some skin in the game here.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:54 amThe Shadow Cult has only been around from the beginning-ish of this year - I think you're basing your critique of the Imperial Empire (long dead, don't panic!).
