Confederation of Corrupt Dictators: Ultimate Gameplay Thread

[Jocospor]

THIS REGION IS A FASCIST REGION - don't you ever forget that

Petty. We were discussing a legitimate problem on NationStates. If you'd like to be the one to shove that aside with meaningless dribble, then that's on you.

Why would I care as long as they stick to one channel and don't bring their fascism outside of it?

That's a very admirable, albeit brave, position. I commend you for it.

Unfortunately, those of us in positions of power don't have the luxury of adopting it for ourselves. We have a community to protect.

Personally, I find it a revolting concept that people would feel the need intertwine a political simulator with base depravity. I joined NationStates to play politics, not to do become involved in something like that. It would be completely and utterly irresponsible of me, as founder of one of the game's biggest UCRs, to engage in or condone sexually explicit behaviour.

Anyone who wishes to watch pornography should do so in their own time, law abiding. It is a private act, although I'm not so naive as to assume it is always limited to just the individual.

It is not an act to be engaged in with strangers. Which is what this game is, a game of strangers hiding behind nations, with the rare exception of friends who know each other in real life (i.e. Shrew and I). To do so - to share in the act with strangers - is extremely dangerous at both a mental and legal level. I strongly caution against it.

My fervent opinion has always been that pornography has no place within the NationStates' community. The CCD will continue to uphold this moral standard, to which the game is entitled.

[Nakena]

Pick one:

- The presence of hentai-addicted deviants in your Discord

- The presence of unironic borderline neo-nazis in your Discord

Which is worse?

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Pick one:

- The presence of hentai-addicted deviants in your Discord

- The presence of unironic borderline neo-nazis in your Discord

Which is worse?

Do you really want an answer?

[Nakena]

Pick one:

- The presence of hentai-addicted deviants in your Discord

- The presence of unironic borderline neo-nazis in your Discord

Which is worse?

Do you really want an answer?

Hentai addicted fascists?

The best of both worlds.

[Syberis]

Pick one:

- The presence of hentai-addicted deviants in your Discord

- The presence of unironic borderline neo-nazis in your Discord

Which is worse?

Do you really want an answer?

Ooh, I want an answer to that one.

[Valerox]

To celebrate my recent appointment to the Imperial Council, I finally went through the process of designing a custom flag for my nation after 4 years on the site! Any thoughts? Is it suitably menacing and bad guy looking? I know this is unusual for the hate fest that this channel is, but I just wanted to take a break from all of that slander and false accusation and all of that for a second. Anyways I probably wont be as active as Shrew or JOCO on here but I just wanted to introduce myself once I got officially appointed and all that good stuff. Trying to be a bit more active on other stuff besides the RMB.

[Tinhampton]

THIS REGION IS A FASCIST REGION - don't you ever forget that

Petty. We were discussing a legitimate problem on NationStates. If you'd like to be the one to shove that aside with meaningless dribble, then that's on you.

And I'm discussing something to do with the CCD (so is Valerox above). For future reference, I wholeheartedly support your campaign against porn and other such egregiousness on NS Discord servers.

[Yokiria]

Pick one:

- The presence of hentai-addicted deviants in your Discord

- The presence of unironic borderline neo-nazis in your Discord

Which is worse?

I would choose to have neither in my Discord.

So long as our cooperation with the CCD is beneficial for us we don't plan on denting those relations.

Okay so how much stamp money have you given the CCD so far?

[Prydania]

It's kind of disgusting to keep going to bat for fascists but you know what? Not even surprised.

You're not someone I want to take lessons on morality from.

You don't even know me, man

[ShrewLlamaLand]

As people have likely noticed, my proposal "Condemn The World Assembly Elite "failed" to make quorum.

Why? A majority of GCRs: The Pacific, The North Pacific, The West Pacific, The East Pacific, and Balder raided small regions to force a change in their WA Delegate and remove their approval from this resolution.

The resolution was a single approval short of quorum shortly before the major update of 10/04/2020, however, after a slanderous counter-campaign and a series of raids on supporting regional delegates for four consecutive updates, it failed yesterday with approximately 30 approvals remaining.

Had it not been for this voting maniuplation, "Condemn The World Assembly Elite" would have reached the voting floor of the Security Council over 48 hours ago, before the terribly flawed "Commend Kuriko".

The following image shows the proposal a single approval short of quorum:

This series of images shows the number of Delegate approvals reducing after each update following the raiding attempts.

Note that, credit where credit is due, to my knowledge The South Pacific did not participate in these raids.

The Black Hawks also participated in the later two raids. So much for apolitical. This was possibly as retaliation for my draft to "Repeal: Condemn The Black Hawks".

It's terribly ironic that a majority of GCRs are going around knocking off small region's WA Delegates to silence their approvals, in order to prove that the WA Elite doesn't exist. Yet in doing so, they directly violate regional sovereignty and prove what they are so desperately trying to hide: if you're a small region, or small nation, your opinion doesn't matter. Only the Elite matters.

I can only imagine this was the case for two reasons, considering the amount of effort expended; a) the WA Elite is afraid of the consequences on their continued dominance over the World Assembly if it were to make quorum, yet alone pass, and, b) they wanted to force through "Commend Kuriko" first, to honour their corrupt mate for who they rigged the Sec-Gen election.

The CCD will not be silenced. It is very clear that the majority of WA Delegates - the real WA Delegates of NationStates, not the corrupt GCR Delegates of the WA Elite - want this proposal to be voted on, and consequently want to see real change in the World Assembly. This proposal will be resubmitted in the near future, we are confident that we will be able to reach quorum within a single update to prevent a repeated abuse of the WA approval system that went on here.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

To celebrate my recent appointment to the Imperial Council, I finally went through the process of designing a custom flag for my nation after 4 years on the site! Any thoughts? Is it suitably menacing and bad guy looking? I know this is unusual for the hate fest that this channel is, but I just wanted to take a break from all of that slander and false accusation and all of that for a second. Anyways I probably wont be as active as Shrew or JOCO on here but I just wanted to introduce myself once I got officially appointed and all that good stuff. Trying to be a bit more active on other stuff besides the RMB.

Personally, I think it's a wonderful flag.

[Gorundu]

The resolution was a single approval short of quorum shortly before the major update of 10/04/2020, however, after a slanderous counter-campaign and a series of raids on supporting regional delegates for four consecutive updates, it failed yesterday with approximately 30 approvals remaining.

You campaigned for your proposal, so people have every right to campaign against it, no?

Also, if people really supported your proposal, then they would have re-approved it after being reseated, no? Perhaps your proposal wasn't that worthy after all...

[ShrewLlamaLand]

The resolution was a single approval short of quorum shortly before the major update of 10/04/2020, however, after a slanderous counter-campaign and a series of raids on supporting regional delegates for four consecutive updates, it failed yesterday with approximately 30 approvals remaining.

You campaigned for your proposal, so people have every right to campaign against it, no?

Also, if people really supported your proposal, then they would have re-approved it after being reseated, no? Perhaps your proposal wasn't that worthy after all...

I guess getting five GCRs together and raiding a bunch of regions to knock off small regions' WA Delegates is a type of "campaign against it". Yeah, that sounds right doesn't it, TNP Minister for WA Affairs?

Most did re-approve after (if) they regained their WA Delegate status, however when they're repeatedly knocked off for four updates in a row it's a bit hard.

[Francois Isidore]

Welcome to the World Assembly? I mean, I’m not exactly sure what kind of reception you’re going for here. You run an approval campaign for your proposal and just as with any other proposal presented to the Security Council people who oppose the resolution are able to launch counter-campaigns of their own volition. But I guess what you’re saying is because you’re from the Confederation and because it’s you who wrote the proposal people are no longer able to have any opinion on it that is contrary to your own?

Listen, I know your region is quite fond of authoritarianism and doing as your Founder tells you to do. That’s all well and good (for you, not for us), that’s your deal. But playing the victim card in public doesn’t suit you at all, Shrew. If anything, I’d advise not blaming others for expressing their opinions and acting on their own to oppose a resolution they disliked. This whole “World Assembly Elite” narrative is getting a bit old and stale by this point, but I fully expect you to continue pressing on with it nonetheless.

After all, conjuring the narrative of an elite distracts from your own personal shortcomings, does it not? I wish people would stop feeding into that, because if they stopped doing that then it’s more likely your soapbox wouldn’t be much of a soapbox to stand upon at all.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Welcome to the World Assembly? I mean, I’m not exactly sure what kind of reception you’re going for here. You run an approval campaign for your proposal and just as with any other proposal presented to the Security Council people who oppose the resolution are able to launch counter-campaigns of their own volition. But I guess what you’re saying is because you’re from the Confederation and because it’s you who wrote the proposal people are no longer able to have any opinion on it that is contrary to your own?

Did TNP launch a cover up campaign? Otherwise why are you all appearing here now?

[Gorundu]

You campaigned for your proposal, so people have every right to campaign against it, no?

Also, if people really supported your proposal, then they would have re-approved it after being reseated, no? Perhaps your proposal wasn't that worthy after all...

I guess getting five GCRs together and raiding a bunch of regions to knock off small regions' WA Delegates is a type of "campaign against it". Yeah, that sounds right doesn't it, TNP Minister for WA Affairs?

Most did re-approve after (if) they regained their WA Delegate status, however when they're repeatedly knocked off for four updates in a row it's a bit hard.

I was referring to the telegram counter-campaign. And the only ones I saw re-approving it were your fascist allies, so it's hardly representative.

[Prydania]

Did TNP launch a cover up campaign? Otherwise why are you all appearing here now?

CCD tries to coup the sovereign and democratically elected government of TNP.

CCD tries to claim TNP is part of a cabal subverting WA democracy.

Y'all tried to coup our home region, and now you're playing victim now that you've gotten our attention? Not surprising, considering your government's mastered the art of blaming other people for their own shortcomings.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

I guess getting five GCRs together and raiding a bunch of regions to knock off small regions' WA Delegates is a type of "campaign against it". Yeah, that sounds right doesn't it, TNP Minister for WA Affairs?

Most did re-approve after (if) they regained their WA Delegate status, however when they're repeatedly knocked off for four updates in a row it's a bit hard.

I was referring to the telegram counter-campaign. And the only ones I saw re-approving it were your fascist allies, so it's hardly representative.

I'm not. Anyone in the WA is entitled to run a counter-campaign. While the contents of this counter-campaign were untrue, this was not the major issue and resulted in about six Delegates removing their approval.

However, as a member of TNP I'm not surprised you've decided to focus on the insignificant counter-campaign when your region was part of raids that collectively removed over 70 approvals.

[Gorundu]

I was referring to the telegram counter-campaign. And the only ones I saw re-approving it were your fascist allies, so it's hardly representative.

I'm not. Anyone in the WA is entitled to run a counter-campaign. While the contents of this counter-campaign were untrue, this was not the major issue and resulted in about six Delegates removing their approval.

However, as a member of TNP I'm not surprised you've decided to focus on the insignificant counter-campaign when your region was part of raids that collectively removed over 70 approvals.

Seems like you ignored the second half of my post. Oh well, to be expected.

And remember, while you're here preaching the slanderous lies of the counter campaign, (almost) everyone knows the bullshit can only be found in your campaigns.

[Francois Isidore]

Welcome to the World Assembly? I mean, I’m not exactly sure what kind of reception you’re going for here. You run an approval campaign for your proposal and just as with any other proposal presented to the Security Council people who oppose the resolution are able to launch counter-campaigns of their own volition. But I guess what you’re saying is because you’re from the Confederation and because it’s you who wrote the proposal people are no longer able to have any opinion on it that is contrary to your own?

Did TNP launch a cover up campaign? Otherwise why are you all appearing here now?

Two players ≠ “you all”. As for why I am appearing here? Because I can, simply put. I’m not a government official of the North Pacific nor do I speak in the capacity of one.

EDIT: I would say three players but at the time you made that comment Pry hadn’t posted yet. But even if he had you wouldn’t really have had a point to make there.

However, as a member of TNP I'm not surprised you've decided to focus on the insignificant counter-campaign when your region was part of raids that collectively removed over 70 approvals.

Ah yes, I am quite glad that you brought up our military undertakings as of late. The activities of which are very hidden and are kept extremely quiet. Actually, wait. No, scratch that. ... Luckily for you all of our military reports are available for public viewing! You don’t even have to have an account on the forums - isn’t it great?! Now then, if you’ll look here, here, here, and here you can see every single deployment. This is no cover up, but if it was that’d sure fit your narrative nicely now wouldn’t it? Hopefully now you see why characterizing it as such doesn’t exactly work in your favour.

[Prydania]

Just gonna leave this here...

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1345154

[The Gilded Star]

however, after a slanderous counter-campaign

Feels like the pot calling the kettle black here tbh.

the WA Elite is afraid of the consequences on their continued dominance over the World Assembly if it were to make quorum, yet alone pass

No snark intended here: what possible consequences could there be? This reminds me a bit of everyone yelling at the NPO while they were entrenched in the Pacific; there's no way to harm their power and reach in any tangible way, and they're just going to laugh at strongly worded letters, which is all a symbolic condemnation would be to them.

With all seriousness, I think the reason they made a move against you is because you shook that beehive around just one time too many, and the bees decided to sting you for it.

The CCD will not be silenced. It is very clear that the majority of WA Delegates - the real WA Delegates of NationStates, not the corrupt GCR Delegates of the WA Elite - want this proposal to be voted on, and consequently want to see real change in the World Assembly.

Sorta doubtful. Many of the people that approved it seemed to fall in one of three categories:

1. CCD allies.
2. Delegates that approve literally every proposal on the list indiscriminately.
3. Delegates that approve things when telegrammed without really paying attention to or caring about what it is they're approving.

None of those are particularly inspiring support pools, and two-thirds of them can just as easily be turned back against you.

[Mallorea and Riva]

I was referring to the telegram counter-campaign. And the only ones I saw re-approving it were your fascist allies, so it's hardly representative.

I'm not. Anyone in the WA is entitled to run a counter-campaign. While the contents of this counter-campaign were untrue, this was not the major issue and resulted in about six Delegates removing their approval.

However, as a member of TNP I'm not surprised you've decided to focus on the insignificant counter-campaign when your region was part of raids that collectively removed over 70 approvals.

Do you think it might be because you tried to coup TNP, you went after TBH's condemn, and y'all are Nazis? I mean I'm not terribly familiar with your region, but those things might have something to do with it.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Ah yes, I am quite glad that you brought up our military undertakings as of late. The activities of which are very hidden and are kept extremely quiet. Actually, wait. No, scratch that. ... Luckily for you all of our military reports are available for public viewing! You don’t even have to have an account on the forums - isn’t it great?! Now then, if you’ll look here, here, here, and here you can see every single deployment. This is no cover up, but if it was that’d sure fit your narrative nicely now wouldn’t it? Hopefully now you see why characterizing it as such doesn’t exactly work in your favour.

I don't really know what you want me to say here. Just because it's policy to post every operation in the corners of TNP's private forum doesn't mean they're out advertising their actions.

however, after a slanderous counter-campaign

Feels like the pot calling the kettle black here tbh.

Can you give me a single instance where something I've said in a public campaign on behalf of the CCD has been blatantly untrue?

the WA Elite is afraid of the consequences on their continued dominance over the World Assembly if it were to make quorum, yet alone pass

No snark intended here: what possible consequences could there be? This reminds me a bit of everyone yelling at the NPO while they were entrenched in the Pacific; there's no way to harm their power and reach in any tangible way, and they're just going to laugh at strongly worded letters, which is all a symbolic condemnation would be to them.

With all seriousness, I think the reason they made a move against you is because you shook that beehive around just one time too many, and the bees decided to sting you for it.

What you're saying is that I've called out the WA Elite so many times so they've decided to come and try to silence me? I'll take that as an honour.

With regards to their miliary operations, every raid they waste time on by knocking off a Delegate for 12 hours to remove their approval is a potential region that's been spared from raiding forces. I've spoken out against raiding before, and if they want to keep wasting their time on removing proposal approvals... I'll also take that.

The reality is they've already completely wasted significant time and effort on the last three pointless series of raids. I gave up on getting this to quorum after the first one was successful in allowing "Commend Kuriko" to go through first. I can't defend 80 regions for five days while it's at vote.

The CCD will not be silenced. It is very clear that the majority of WA Delegates - the real WA Delegates of NationStates, not the corrupt GCR Delegates of the WA Elite - want this proposal to be voted on, and consequently want to see real change in the World Assembly.

Sorta doubtful. Many of the people that approved it seemed to fall in one of three categories:

1. CCD allies.
2. Delegates that approve literally every proposal on the list indiscriminately.
3. Delegates that approve things when telegrammed without really paying attention to or caring about what it is they're approving.

None of those are particularly inspiring support pools, and two-thirds of them can just as easily be turned back against you.

I trust you've also compiled the full list of 85 approving Delegates to come to this conclusion?

Given I have done this, and also had contact with a decent number of those who approved, my experience is very different to what you're claiming.

[Prydania]

Ah yes, I am quite glad that you brought up our military undertakings as of late. The activities of which are very hidden and are kept extremely quiet. Actually, wait. No, scratch that. ... Luckily for you all of our military reports are available for public viewing! You don’t even have to have an account on the forums - isn’t it great?! Now then, if you’ll look here, here, here, and here you can see every single deployment. This is no cover up, but if it was that’d sure fit your narrative nicely now wouldn’t it? Hopefully now you see why characterizing it as such doesn’t exactly work in your favour.

I don't really know what you want me to say here. Just because it's policy to post every operation in the corners of TNP's private forum doesn't mean they're out advertising their actions.

"Private forum."

Bruh.

You don't even need an account to view the sections you were linked to. It's public info. Stop with the political spin for a moment.