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Postby The Chuck » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:50 pm

As Joco's former Admin, I will say. Credit is due in this instance. While I was in, he didn't stand for the lewd stuff and we kept it clean. Though I did hear that after I left there was an anime channel but it was kept fairly tame and none of the objectionable content was posted. So I guess congrats?
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:21 pm

The Chuck wrote:As Joco's former Admin, I will say. Credit is due in this instance. While I was in, he didn't stand for the lewd stuff and we kept it clean. Though I did hear that after I left there was an anime channel but it was kept fairly tame and none of the objectionable content was posted. So I guess congrats?


Lewd stuff huh. :roll:

You mean like the gore, porn, and other weird shit kids posted to the forums trying to support him?

Big clean, much innocence, such good kids, wow.

Also, ain't nothing wrong with adults watching porn if they have ID checks, which all NS servers I've visited have, my own included, and my server doesn't even have a lewd section, because I don't want some boomer whining about their little innocent angels exposing themselves to inappropriate shit and catching them in the act, like it's my fault for exposing their children to atheism and liberalism.

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Postby The Gilded Star » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:36 pm

The Rich Port wrote:You mean like the gore, porn, and other weird shit kids posted to the forums trying to support him?


Again, to give due credit here:

Reploid Productions wrote:Okay, cutting this one off here. Pornspammer is a known DOS with no known ties to Jocospor or CCD. I'm sure you can find plenty of things to argue about the guy without tarring him about the DOS shooting gallery target.

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Postby Fauxia » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:05 pm

It’s also not really fair to claim Jocospor is directly responsible for disgusting posts in support of him. I’m pretty sure the only PG-13-breaking spam I saw was a supporter of Kuriko, and Kuri is not responsible.

Can’t believe I’m defending Jocospor. But even fascists occasionally get something right. He’s at least doing enough as a founder to keep the region free of this crap.
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Postby Jocospor » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:59 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Zeritae wrote:Many of them are lewdish anime chats, or too borderline for anything to be done "Iz jUsT aNimE"

And again, I must ask - what exactly is the issue with that? You can very easily mute and collapse the channel if you don't want to hear about lewd anime, so what's the harm to you?


This position is exactly the same as someone saying, "There's extreme fascists in my Discord, but they're fine because I ignore them."

I'm interested to know: Do you support the idea of fascists inhabiting a Discord?
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Postby Boda » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:03 pm

Y u do this?
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:23 pm

Jocospor wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:And again, I must ask - what exactly is the issue with that? You can very easily mute and collapse the channel if you don't want to hear about lewd anime, so what's the harm to you?


This position is exactly the same as someone saying, "There's extreme fascists in my Discord, but they're fine because I ignore them."

I'm interested to know: Do you support the idea of fascists inhabiting a Discord?

Why would I care as long as they stick to one channel and don't bring their fascism outside of it?
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Postby Technocratic Founder » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:35 pm

Jocospor wrote:
Cekoviu wrote: Do you support the idea of fascists inhabiting a Discord?

What sane person would answer "yes" to this question?
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Postby ImperialRussia » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:37 pm

Wonder I can do this with my current economy

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:42 am

As soon as I saw that ImperialRussia posted on this thread, I knew I had to get over here to witness his genius ASAP.
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Postby Jocospor » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:15 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Jocospor wrote:
This position is exactly the same as someone saying, "There's extreme fascists in my Discord, but they're fine because I ignore them."

I'm interested to know: Do you support the idea of fascists inhabiting a Discord?

Why would I care as long as they stick to one channel and don't bring their fascism outside of it?


That's a very admirable, albeit brave, position. I commend you for it.

Unfortunately, those of us in positions of power don't have the luxury of adopting it for ourselves. We have a community to protect.

Personally, I find it a revolting concept that people would feel the need intertwine a political simulator with base depravity. I joined NationStates to play politics, not to do become involved in something like that. It would be completely and utterly irresponsible of me, as founder of one of the game's biggest UCRs, to engage in or condone sexually explicit behaviour.

Anyone who wishes to watch pornography should do so in their own time, law abiding. It is a private act, although I'm not so naive as to assume it is always limited to just the individual.

It is not an act to be engaged in with strangers. Which is what this game is, a game of strangers hiding behind nations, with the rare exception of friends who know each other in real life (i.e. Shrew and I). To do so - to share in the act with strangers - is extremely dangerous at both a mental and legal level. I strongly caution against it.

My fervent opinion has always been that pornography has no place within the NationStates' community. The CCD will continue to uphold this moral standard, to which the game is entitled.
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Postby Blood Wine » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:08 am

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Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Of course the unifying factor between CCD and it's critics is the good ol' anti-anime alliance :lol2:

No, we're generally fine with anime. Anime porn is a different manner.


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Cekoviu wrote:And again, I must ask - what exactly is the issue with that? You can very easily mute and collapse the channel if you don't want to hear about lewd anime, so what's the harm to you?

The harm is to the minors in the server. Not to mention that why do you need a NSFW channel for a political simulator? This is a game about politics, not about posting obscene or lewd material, especially where minors can see it. Jocospor is right to shun it from CCD.


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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:13 pm

THIS REGION IS A FASCIST REGION - don't you ever forget that
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:15 pm

Tinhampton wrote:THIS REGION IS A FASCIST REGION - don't you ever forget that

k
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:17 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:THIS REGION IS A FASCIST REGION - don't you ever forget that

k

One letter is not a sufficient dismissal of the fact that the CCD has been denounced in SC canon as a fascist region.
One letter is not a sufficient dismissal of the fact that Jocospor tagged the CCD as a fascist region after the Snap (only for it to be reversed by SLL).
One letter is not a sufficient dismissal of the fact that many of the CCD's embassies are with fascist regions.

...but if Jocospor ran to become SecGen on the principle that the quality of a resolution is all that matters, then it's completely OK for the CCD to whitewash their reputation through the SC, never mind that those resolutions will still be annihilated at vote! :roll:

Was it IC? Was it OOC? Nobody seems to be sure - but it happens, it matters, and that matters.

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:31 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:k

One letter is not a sufficient dismissal of the fact that the CCD has been denounced in SC canon as a fascist region.
One letter is not a sufficient dismissal of the fact that Jocospor tagged the CCD as a fascist region after the Snap (only for it to be reversed by SLL).
One letter is not a sufficient dismissal of the fact that many of the CCD's embassies are with fascist regions.

...but if Jocospor ran to become SecGen on the principle that the quality of a resolution is all that matters, then it's completely OK for the CCD to whitewash their reputation through the SC, never mind that those resolutions will still be annihilated at vote! :roll:

Was it IC? Was it OOC? Nobody seems to be sure - but it happens, it matters, and that matters.

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Postby Yokiria » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:42 pm

That hurt to read.
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:43 pm

Yokiria wrote:That hurt to read.

This should hurt to read even more:

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Postby Zeritae » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:46 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:
Yokiria wrote:That hurt to read.

This should hurt to read even more:

Shwew: Did you evew heaw the twagedy of Empewow Jocospow the Wise ;;w;;
TNPew: No?
Shwew: I thought nyot. It's not a stowy the Nyowth Pacific wiww teww you. It's a CCD wegend. Empewow Jocospow was a Dawk Lowd of the CCD, so powewfuw and so wise he couwd use the Wowwd Assembwy to infwuence members to expose peopwe... He had such a knowwedge of powitics, he couwd even expose the Wowld Assembwy ewite.
TNPew: He couwd actuawwy expose the Worwd Assembwy?
Shwew: The dawk side of NyationStates is a pathway to many abiwities some considew to be unnyatuwaw.
TNPew: What happened to him?
Shwew: He became so powewfuw UwU the onwy thing he feawed was the WA ewite exiwing him, which eventuawwy, of couwse, they did. Unfortunyatewy he taught his wegion evewything he knyew, then twaitows kiwwed him in his sweep. Iwonyic. He couwd denyounce the WA Ewite, but nyot his wegion.
TNPew: Is it possibwe to weawn this powew?
Shwew: Not fwom the Nowth Pacific OwO

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Postby Kynor » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:49 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:
Yokiria wrote:That hurt to read.

This should hurt to read even more:

Shwew: Did you evew heaw the twagedy of Empewow Jocospow the Wise ;;w;;
TNPew: No?
Shwew: I thought nyot. It's not a stowy the Nyowth Pacific wiww teww you. It's a CCD wegend. Empewow Jocospow was a Dawk Lowd of the CCD, so powewfuw and so wise he couwd use the Wowwd Assembwy to infwuence members to expose peopwe... He had such a knowwedge of powitics, he couwd even expose the Wowld Assembwy ewite.
TNPew: He couwd actuawwy expose the Worwd Assembwy?
Shwew: The dawk side of NyationStates is a pathway to many abiwities some considew to be unnyatuwaw.
TNPew: What happened to him?
Shwew: He became so powewfuw UwU the onwy thing he feawed was the WA ewite exiwing him, which eventuawwy, of couwse, they did. Unfortunyatewy he taught his wegion evewything he knyew, then twaitows kiwwed him in his sweep. Iwonyic. He couwd denyounce the WA Ewite, but nyot his wegion.
TNPew: Is it possibwe to weawn this powew?
Shwew: Not fwom the Nowth Pacific OwO

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Postby Prydania » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:11 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:THIS REGION IS A FASCIST REGION - don't you ever forget that

k

It's kind of disgusting to keep going to bat for fascists but you know what? Not even surprised.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:15 pm

Prydania wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:k

It's kind of disgusting to keep going to bat for fascists but you know what? Not even surprised.

This is a member of Farkasfalka aka “We aren’t fascist! We just have fascists and support fascists!”
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Postby Prydania » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:16 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
Prydania wrote:It's kind of disgusting to keep going to bat for fascists but you know what? Not even surprised.

This is a member of Farkasfalka aka “We aren’t fascist! We just have fascists and support fascists!”

Hence the "not even surprised."
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:21 pm

Prydania wrote:It's kind of disgusting to keep going to bat for fascists but you know what? Not even surprised.

You're not someone I want to take lessons on morality from.
Honeydewistania wrote:This is a member of Farkasfalka aka “We aren’t fascist! We just have fascists and support fascists!”

So long as our cooperation with the CCD is beneficial for us we don't plan on denting those relations.

And, as needed, Farkasfalka as a region does not adhere to nor enforce fascism.
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