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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:40 am

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Haven't even formed yet and already picking up condemnations. Oh well.

Anyways, cheers to the CCD. A little thank you gift from yours truly, and all your allies. We look forward to the future.

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This has striking similarities to 1984.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:03 am

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Haven't even formed yet and already picking up condemnations. Oh well.

Anyways, cheers to the CCD. A little thank you gift from yours truly, and all your allies. We look forward to the future.

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This has striking similarities to 1984.

I mean Farkasfalka's flag is literally a fucking swastika ripoff lmao.
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Postby Numero Capitan » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:50 am

Yeah this isn't interesting any more, glad the genuinely reasonable nations in CCD got out and took a few scalps whilst they were at it. Everyone else should leave Joco and Shrew to rot.

I'll be ignoring this topic from now on, you all should too.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:11 pm

Let's be clear on 'Operation Tabby Cat': two raiding operations in Europe on 13 November 2018 and 21 December 2018.

We know without a doubt who was behind the operation. Federation of Conservative Nation's New Waldensia—their current delegate—was the leader of the operation, per moderation revelations in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=453727&p=34905045&hilit=imperium+anglorum#p34905045.

Although it should be no surprise that what New Waldensia's team attempted was in the knowledge of people in CCD, as Europe received the following telegram from Jocospor shortly after the operation was completed, there was no concrete proof of CCD's foreknowledge or involvement in the operation until now.

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A further follow-up came from Jocospor directed to some region members in Europe directly:

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At a generally broad level, beyond some changing of regional officers in line with customary law, Europe did not take an overly reactive stance regarding any kind of raiding from CCD. This was because of CCD's total inability to understand the game mechanics associated with jump points and the update, making it difficult for them to raid much of anything:

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A second attempt at this was executed on 21 December 2018 with forewarning delivered to the government:

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New Waldensia's team—apparently in cooperation with CCD—claimed responsibility for the attack and were ejected and banned immediately, ending the incursion. This of course did not dampen their enthusiasm in claiming the complete success of their operation in this dispatch and via telegrams to me:

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:09 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:This has striking similarities to 1984.

I mean Farkasfalka's flag is literally a fucking swastika ripoff lmao.

Obliged to clarify that the Farkasfalkan flag is a Gibor Rune and not a Swastika ripoff.

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Postby Syberis » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:03 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:I mean Farkasfalka's flag is literally a fucking swastika ripoff lmao.

Obliged to clarify that the Farkasfalkan flag is a Gibor Rune and not a Swastika ripoff.


Obliged to clarify the Armanen Runes are tied to Völkisch thought historically as a symbol, and the Armanen runes were created after the Swastika.

Also, you know. Runic signs were just all over the SS. So it operates in this weird niche of both being derived from the Swastika as well as being its own distinct Nazi symbol.
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Postby ALMSIVI » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:05 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:I mean Farkasfalka's flag is literally a fucking swastika ripoff lmao.

Obliged to clarify that the Farkasfalkan flag is a Gibor Rune and not a Swastika ripoff.

Ah yes, Gibor runes, nothing to do with Nazis at all, just us using the letter G from a made-up language attributed to ancient aryan kings.

The Armanen runes (or Armanen Futharkh) are a series of 18 runes, closely based on the historical Younger Futhark, introduced by Austrian mysticist and Germanic revivalist Guido von List in his Das Geheimnis der Runen (English: "The Secret of the Runes"), published as a periodical article in 1906, and as a standalone publication in 1908. The name Armanen runes associates the runes with the postulated Armanen, whom von List saw as ancient Aryan priest-kings.

Notoriously, the Armanen runes were used by the Nazi Party as part of their system of esoteric symbolism.


Nothing strange here, move along.

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:58 pm

Syberis wrote:Obliged to clarify the Armanen Runes are tied to Völkisch thought historically as a symbol, and the Armanen runes were created after the Swastika.

Also, you know. Runic signs were just all over the SS. So it operates in this weird niche of both being derived from the Swastika as well as being its own distinct Nazi symbol.

ALMSIVI wrote:Ah yes, Gibor runes, nothing to do with Nazis at all, just us using the letter G from a made-up language attributed to ancient aryan kings.

The Armanen runes (or Armanen Futharkh) are a series of 18 runes, closely based on the historical Younger Futhark, introduced by Austrian mysticist and Germanic revivalist Guido von List in his Das Geheimnis der Runen (English: "The Secret of the Runes"), published as a periodical article in 1906, and as a standalone publication in 1908. The name Armanen runes associates the runes with the postulated Armanen, whom von List saw as ancient Aryan priest-kings.

Notoriously, the Armanen runes were used by the Nazi Party as part of their system of esoteric symbolism.


Nothing strange here, move along.


The Nazi Party used a lot of things. That alone doesn't make those things National Socialist. The Gibor Rune predates the both the Nazi Party and Adolf Hitler by quite some time. In the context which Farkasfalka uses the rune, it relates to a spiritual and religious nature, both core tenants of our region. It represents the wheel of life, of union of the god and the world, divinity within and outside of the person, and a bunch of other spiritual meanings that you failed to comprehend. Gibor is also translated as "gift born," which means that the cross, the Gibor, the gift of to be born again, which is a gift of the Holy Spirit. All religious themes related to our region.

Gnostic Studies and Gnostic Teachings both explain coherently the meaning of the Gibor Rune and what it represents, as well as differentiate how the SS used it and how we clearly intend to use it. The fasces is hoisted on either side of the podium of the US House of Representatives. Does that mean that America is a fascist country? Obviously not. In this case, much like Farkasfalka, it obviously holds a different meaning.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:02 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:The Gibor Rune predates the both the Nazi Party and Adolf Hitler by quite some time.

So does the swastika, but it is most well known for its usage as the symbol of the nazi party. It's also not the topic of this thread. Take it to general if you want to hash it out.
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Postby British Norklon » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:47 pm

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Postby Kowani » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:58 pm

Nouveau Quebecois wrote:
Syberis wrote:Obliged to clarify the Armanen Runes are tied to Völkisch thought historically as a symbol, and the Armanen runes were created after the Swastika.

Also, you know. Runic signs were just all over the SS. So it operates in this weird niche of both being derived from the Swastika as well as being its own distinct Nazi symbol.

ALMSIVI wrote:Ah yes, Gibor runes, nothing to do with Nazis at all, just us using the letter G from a made-up language attributed to ancient aryan kings.



Nothing strange here, move along.


The Nazi Party used a lot of things. That alone doesn't make those things National Socialist. The Gibor Rune predates the both the Nazi Party and Adolf Hitler by quite some time. In the context which Farkasfalka uses the rune, it relates to a spiritual and religious nature, both core tenants of our region. It represents the wheel of life, of union of the god and the world, divinity within and outside of the person, and a bunch of other spiritual meanings that you failed to comprehend. Gibor is also translated as "gift born," which means that the cross, the Gibor, the gift of to be born again, which is a gift of the Holy Spirit. All religious themes related to our region.

Gnostic Studies and Gnostic Teachings both explain coherently the meaning of the Gibor Rune and what it represents, as well as differentiate how the SS used it and how we clearly intend to use it. The fasces is hoisted on either side of the podium of the US House of Representatives. Does that mean that America is a fascist country? Obviously not. In this case, much like Farkasfalka, it obviously holds a different meaning.

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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:59 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:

The Nazi Party used a lot of things. That alone doesn't make those things National Socialist. The Gibor Rune predates the both the Nazi Party and Adolf Hitler by quite some time. In the context which Farkasfalka uses the rune, it relates to a spiritual and religious nature, both core tenants of our region. It represents the wheel of life, of union of the god and the world, divinity within and outside of the person, and a bunch of other spiritual meanings that you failed to comprehend. Gibor is also translated as "gift born," which means that the cross, the Gibor, the gift of to be born again, which is a gift of the Holy Spirit. All religious themes related to our region.

Gnostic Studies and Gnostic Teachings both explain coherently the meaning of the Gibor Rune and what it represents, as well as differentiate how the SS used it and how we clearly intend to use it. The fasces is hoisted on either side of the podium of the US House of Representatives. Does that mean that America is a fascist country? Obviously not. In this case, much like Farkasfalka, it obviously holds a different meaning.

Plausible deniability requires plausibility.

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Postby New Rogernomics » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:50 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:The Gibor Rune predates the both the Nazi Party and Adolf Hitler by quite some time.

So does the swastika, but it is most well known for its usage as the symbol of the nazi party. It's also not the topic of this thread. Take it to general if you want to hash it out.
And the statue of Abraham Lincoln rests on what would be used for fascist symbolism, though that doesn't justify someone using that symbolism outside of that context - as outside of that context it becomes fascist idolatry.
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Postby 2nd Imperial German Reich » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:16 am

The CCD’s WFE:

This was a region of roleplay.

But NationStates made it a region of hate.

The Confederation will always be NationStates most despised region.

Anarchy, abandonment. These are our watchwords now.

But, in the shadows, Jocospor lives on. The true followers of the Emperor and his Shadow Cult will always be loyal.

Hail the Confederation.


”The true followers of the Emperor and his Shadow Cult will always be loyal.”

Finally embracing the OOC cult of personality. Fantastic.


That all explains the sudden emergence of OOC fascists to me. Seems like the Confederation has gone through a short fall and a sudden stop, and the CCD’s embrace of fascism is just its final struggling breaths for relevance.

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Postby New Rogernomics » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:22 pm

2nd Imperial German Reich wrote:The CCD’s WFE:

This was a region of roleplay.

But NationStates made it a region of hate.

The Confederation will always be NationStates most despised region.

Anarchy, abandonment. These are our watchwords now.

But, in the shadows, Jocospor lives on. The true followers of the Emperor and his Shadow Cult will always be loyal.

Hail the Confederation.


”The true followers of the Emperor and his Shadow Cult will always be loyal.”

Finally embracing the OOC cult of personality. Fantastic.


That all explains the sudden emergence of OOC fascists to me. Seems like the Confederation has gone through a short fall and a sudden stop, and the CCD’s embrace of fascism is just its final struggling breaths for relevance.
It kinda reads like an incel rant, as it has a forever alone and ostracized aspect.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:24 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:
2nd Imperial German Reich wrote:The CCD’s WFE:

This was a region of roleplay.

But NationStates made it a region of hate.

The Confederation will always be NationStates most despised region.

Anarchy, abandonment. These are our watchwords now.

But, in the shadows, Jocospor lives on. The true followers of the Emperor and his Shadow Cult will always be loyal.

Hail the Confederation.


”The true followers of the Emperor and his Shadow Cult will always be loyal.”

Finally embracing the OOC cult of personality. Fantastic.


That all explains the sudden emergence of OOC fascists to me. Seems like the Confederation has gone through a short fall and a sudden stop, and the CCD’s embrace of fascism is just its final struggling breaths for relevance.
It kinda reads like an incel rant, as it has a forever alone and ostracized aspect.

I love how Shadow Cult was italicized.
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Postby Blueflarst » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:31 pm

I am tired of brainwashed people with no life.

Just because some members of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators are fascists they are not a threat for the humanity.


The third post of this thread is an antifascist saying to be out of this thread if you do not want to be tagged as one.
Well i say fuck you i am not a fascist and i write on the thread.
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There's basement dwellers on either side of the political spectrum.

We're talking about the CCD and their fascism, not the entire political spectrum.
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Postby Salcanceacy » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:56 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Salcanceacy wrote:
There's basement dwellers on either side of the political spectrum.

We're talking about the CCD and their fascism, not the entire political spectrum.


Just pointing that both sides are and can be as bad as one another. Only the confederation is coming out of it's shell now. Becoming fascist themselves, instead of playing dress up and acting like they are the main antagonists on NS. Honestly, the snap and the active member exodus, has brought out the ugly side of the CCD.
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Salcanceacy wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:We're talking about the CCD and their fascism, not the entire political spectrum.


Just pointing that both sides are and can be as bad as one another. Only the confederation is coming out of it's shell now. Becoming fascist themselves, instead of playing dress up and acting like they are the main antagonists on NS. Honestly, the snap and the active member exodus, has brought out the ugly side of the CCD.

And regions in NS are more regionalist and in their own interest (raider, defender, neutral) rather than following the political spectrum. They do have certain values (conservatism, liberalism, fascism, centrism, social democracy, communism, etc.) that they follow, which often plays a role in interregional relationships.
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Postby Salcanceacy » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:32 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Salcanceacy wrote:
Just pointing that both sides are and can be as bad as one another. Only the confederation is coming out of it's shell now. Becoming fascist themselves, instead of playing dress up and acting like they are the main antagonists on NS. Honestly, the snap and the active member exodus, has brought out the ugly side of the CCD.

And regions in NS are more regionalist and in their own interest (raider, defender, neutral) rather than following the political spectrum. They do have certain values (conservatism, liberalism, fascism, centrism, social democracy, communism, etc.) that they follow, which often plays a role in interregional relationships.


But it can't be denied that some regions, interweave themselves and their members, within specific sections of the political spectrum. Not in an RP capacity, but rather within a personal and fundamental level. Were, a person acts in the interests, of their political beliefs, as such finding and associating with others that hold similar beliefs, to their own. This can be seen within onsite and offsite regions, communities and the such. As such is the nature of the internet. As an extension of a persons social experience, it is necessary for them to find and partake in their interests first, above anything else.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:00 pm

Salcanceacy wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:And regions in NS are more regionalist and in their own interest (raider, defender, neutral) rather than following the political spectrum. They do have certain values (conservatism, liberalism, fascism, centrism, social democracy, communism, etc.) that they follow, which often plays a role in interregional relationships.


But it can't be denied that some regions, interweave themselves and their members, within specific sections of the political spectrum. Not in an RP capacity, but rather within a personal and fundamental level. Were, a person acts in the interests, of their political beliefs, as such finding and associating with others that hold similar beliefs, to their own. This can be seen within onsite and offsite regions, communities and the such. As such is the nature of the internet. As an extension of a persons social experience, it is necessary for them to find and partake in their interests first, above anything else.

CCD is one of them being a notable fascist region. Their actions protect their own interests, which is to protect Jocospor at all costs and actively root out dissidents who are a millimeter out of line.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:26 pm

Salcanceacy wrote:Just pointing that both sides are and can be as bad as one another. Only the confederation is coming out of it's shell now. Becoming fascist themselves, instead of playing dress up and acting like they are the main antagonists on NS...

Towards the start of this thread, you can see Jocospor wafting away claims that his message to CAIN United in December 2016 - expressing the CCD's support for fascism - was, in fact, an expression of the CCD's support for fascism on the grounds that it was "in-character." (This message was dredged by yours truly at the bottom of pg2/top of pg3, Church of Satan on pg13, and Boda on pg18 - before the Operation 84 revelations exploded, that is.)

Where does the CCD stand on the nature of the CAIN United telegram today? Do they accept it as a tacit admission of their fascism, or does it remain a purportedly in-character message?
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