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by Alpes a Septentrionali Imperium » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:44 pm
by The Chuck » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:58 pm
Alpes a Septentrionali Imperium wrote:Well, good day to you all. I'm the Alpes a Septnetrionali Imperium, know a bit on Forum 7 and more recently for being banned and ejected from the Confederation as well as being labeled a traitor. The reason for this, I posted what was basically a goodbye to people I knew still in the CCD and an IC forfeiting of my government positions. And for committing such a great crime wanting to leave because of things regarding the CCD were stressing me and making me unhappy, I got the above punishment.
But before I was going to leave, I had but one request. Being able to stay on the OOC channels of the discord, just so I could talk to some of the people I still trusted. And it seemed to be granted at first me and another user that wished to leave who originally requested this got the roles and it looks like we just had to wait from there. But then I and the other user got this response regarding it.
Now that seems simple enough. We want to go to the servers where nothing important is discussed and we could talk to people we still liked and trusted their, we just had to rejoin...The CCD. Now you could see the first glaring problem with this, neither of us wants to go back. I mean, why would we? and second, I've been banned from the CCD, meaning that among other things, it is impossible for me to go back. This combined with the current state of the CCD just seems to only raise more concerns, if not fueling the ones already here. But that's enough from me let's hear from some others who among other things where labeled traitors for leaving the CCD or not liking the path it's taking.
We have from The Chuck, quite a nice fellow unlike what some of the people here would say. But what he wished for me to send a music video to the CCD
This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo. And that they have F'ed up from not folding earlier, a notion held but said differently by others as well. And from the user behind Ixilia that those in charge in the CCD have become quite dishonest people it seems.
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by British Norklon » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:18 am
by Anonymous Tipster » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:48 am
The Chuck wrote:Alpes a Septentrionali Imperium wrote:Well, good day to you all. I'm the Alpes a Septnetrionali Imperium, know a bit on Forum 7 and more recently for being banned and ejected from the Confederation as well as being labeled a traitor. The reason for this, I posted what was basically a goodbye to people I knew still in the CCD and an IC forfeiting of my government positions. And for committing such a great crime wanting to leave because of things regarding the CCD were stressing me and making me unhappy, I got the above punishment.
But before I was going to leave, I had but one request. Being able to stay on the OOC channels of the discord, just so I could talk to some of the people I still trusted. And it seemed to be granted at first me and another user that wished to leave who originally requested this got the roles and it looks like we just had to wait from there. But then I and the other user got this response regarding it.
Now that seems simple enough. We want to go to the servers where nothing important is discussed and we could talk to people we still liked and trusted their, we just had to rejoin...The CCD. Now you could see the first glaring problem with this, neither of us wants to go back. I mean, why would we? and second, I've been banned from the CCD, meaning that among other things, it is impossible for me to go back. This combined with the current state of the CCD just seems to only raise more concerns, if not fueling the ones already here. But that's enough from me let's hear from some others who among other things where labeled traitors for leaving the CCD or not liking the path it's taking.
We have from The Chuck, quite a nice fellow unlike what some of the people here would say. But what he wished for me to send a music video to the CCD
This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo. And that they have F'ed up from not folding earlier, a notion held but said differently by others as well. And from the user behind Ixilia that those in charge in the CCD have become quite dishonest people it seems.
Thought you were going to send that on Discord but it works here too!
by South Reinkalistan » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:57 am
by Prydania » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:04 am
McMasterdonia wrote:Secondly this is exactly what Jocospor wanted to do to my home region. Now he is comparing it to forum destruction. This is simply a taste of your own medicine Jocospor. It will not stop here.
by Cedoria » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:08 am
To the Confederation,
Our region is beset with traitors. Enemies lurk around every corner, waiting to do harm to our glorious Emperor and to his Confederation. Said enemies have, severely damaged our Confederation to the point that they are now celebrating what they think to be our final collapse.
They are wrong.
For those who are entirely confused by what has transpired, Riakou, once a trusted and long-standing member of the Supreme Council of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators, revealed their true colors; in an act of truly despicable treachery, they banjected over 200 members of our glorious Confederation, caused irreparable damage to our World Factbook Entry, and attempted to destroy the very Confederation that we all know and love. This horrendous display immediately follows the betrayal of our Emperor by the entire government of the Confederation - they have stabbed us in the back, and have gone off to form their own region, no doubt influenced by their degenerate puppet masters.
The Confederation's government has fallen, and the region has descended into anarchy. And yet, there is hope for our Confederation.
Effective immediately, I hereby assume temporary leadership of our region in the name of the Emperor of Jocospor - our eternal sovereign and ultimate leader.
I have been tasked by our Emperor with creating a new government and legislative body; the so-called Constitution of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators, barely a day old, shall be further reformed into a new piece of legislation that shall permanently guide our Confederation in the years to come.
I now serve the Confederation as the Mouth of our beloved Emperor. His will shall be carried out - this region shall become great, as it was always destined to be.
Hail the Confederation!
Aleksandr Ivanov
Mouth of the Emperor
Acting-Viceroy
Chancellor of the Supreme Judiciary
Confederation of Corrupt Dictators
by WayNeacTia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:14 am
Cedoria wrote:On the CCD RMBTo the Confederation,
Our region is beset with traitors. Enemies lurk around every corner, waiting to do harm to our glorious Emperor and to his Confederation. Said enemies have, severely damaged our Confederation to the point that they are now celebrating what they think to be our final collapse.
They are wrong.
For those who are entirely confused by what has transpired, Riakou, once a trusted and long-standing member of the Supreme Council of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators, revealed their true colors; in an act of truly despicable treachery, they banjected over 200 members of our glorious Confederation, caused irreparable damage to our World Factbook Entry, and attempted to destroy the very Confederation that we all know and love. This horrendous display immediately follows the betrayal of our Emperor by the entire government of the Confederation - they have stabbed us in the back, and have gone off to form their own region, no doubt influenced by their degenerate puppet masters.
The Confederation's government has fallen, and the region has descended into anarchy. And yet, there is hope for our Confederation.
Effective immediately, I hereby assume temporary leadership of our region in the name of the Emperor of Jocospor - our eternal sovereign and ultimate leader.
I have been tasked by our Emperor with creating a new government and legislative body; the so-called Constitution of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators, barely a day old, shall be further reformed into a new piece of legislation that shall permanently guide our Confederation in the years to come.
I now serve the Confederation as the Mouth of our beloved Emperor. His will shall be carried out - this region shall become great, as it was always destined to be.
Hail the Confederation!
Aleksandr Ivanov
Mouth of the Emperor
Acting-Viceroy
Chancellor of the Supreme Judiciary
Confederation of Corrupt Dictators
Translation: Let's fix the problem with more secretive, paranoid tyranny brought to you by one of the exact same people causing the mess in the first place! That'll work!
Isn't there a word that describes repeatedly doing the same failed thing over again and expecting better results?
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:15 am
Wayneactia wrote:My, my, my. Sounds exactly like the Night of the Long Knives.
by Cedoria » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:17 am
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Wayneactia wrote:My, my, my. Sounds exactly like the Night of the Long Knives.
... How?
by Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:18 am
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Construction of embassies with Farkasfalka has commenced. Completion expected in 3 days 1 hour.
Yea, no one was buying the idea that you are no longer affiliated with those Nazis.
by Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:21 am
Cedoria wrote:Nouveau Quebecois wrote:... How?
Purging opposition who've been scapegoated for all ills. Promising a "strong hand" to restore order after cleaning out traitors. The move of a political clique that's going to drag it's community down into the depths of destruction.
No similarities at all really:)
by Cedoria » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:24 am
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Cedoria wrote:Purging opposition who've been scapegoated for all ills. Promising a "strong hand" to restore order after cleaning out traitors. The move of a political clique that's going to drag it's community down into the depths of destruction.
No similarities at all really:)
That's not really what the Night of the Long Knives was. The Night of the Long Knives was a self-purge within the SA wing of the Nazi Party by the SS to remove internal opposition. What's going on in the CCD right now is a lot more chaotic and unorganised. This is more like a coup, minus the practicalities of NS' site.
by WayNeacTia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:26 am
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Cedoria wrote:Purging opposition who've been scapegoated for all ills. Promising a "strong hand" to restore order after cleaning out traitors. The move of a political clique that's going to drag it's community down into the depths of destruction.
No similarities at all really:)
That's not really what the Night of the Long Knives was. The Night of the Long Knives was a self-purge within the SA wing of the Nazi Party by the SS to remove internal opposition. What's going on in the CCD right now is a lot more chaotic and unorganised. This is more like a coup, minus the practicalities of NS' site.
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Cedoria » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:27 am
Wayneactia wrote:Nouveau Quebecois wrote:That's not really what the Night of the Long Knives was. The Night of the Long Knives was a self-purge within the SA wing of the Nazi Party by the SS to remove internal opposition. What's going on in the CCD right now is a lot more chaotic and unorganised. This is more like a coup, minus the practicalities of NS' site.
No it isn't. How the fuck do you coup a region where the founder is in complete control? Here's a hint... You don't. While people may think Raik destroyed the CCD, everything is reversible. The only possible positive outcome is where Joco gets deleted which won't happen, and Shrew doesn't have the influence to ban the hordes that invade. Of course if Joco has any suspicion he may get deleted, he will password the region which the liberation won't affect. So all in all, nothing has changed one iota.
by Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:29 am
Cedoria wrote:Also, aren't you in Farksfalia? Given you guys were the one who came up with the whole doxxing plot, it's a bit strange you'd stick your neck out for CCD with Embassies.
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:[...] direct Farkasfalkan involvement in the affair is unproven, and our regional leaders will be briefed regarding such. Rest assured, the Farkasfalkan Government will be taking the necessary steps to enforce anti-corruption and root out criminal elements within our ranks. We express our full cooperation with NationStates Moderation should they choose to get involved in on-site matters, and this extends to our citizens as well.
by Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:29 am
Wayneactia wrote:No it isn't. How the fuck do you coup a region where the founder is in complete control? Here's a hint... You don't. While people may think Raik destroyed the CCD, everything is reversible. The only possible positive outcome is where Joco gets deleted which won't happen, and Shrew doesn't have the influence to ban the hordes that invade. Of course if Joco has any suspicion he may get deleted, he will password the region which the liberation won't affect. So all in all, nothing has changed one iota.
by Krvava Koupel » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:30 am
by Blood Wine » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:57 am
Elke and Elba wrote:Well Mall, you want Haven? I'd want your Joint Systems Alliance badge, then.
Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay JesusSedgistan wrote:Attempted threadjack on sandwiches and satanism removed.
by Wymondham » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:11 am
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:To the Confederation, and to NationStates as a whole:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1314016
by The New California Republic » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:41 am
Reventus Koth wrote:.
If Jocospor, Shrew, and the rest of them were really, truly not fascists this whole time, they would be doing everything they possibly could to clear their names, even if it was hard, even if it took years, because that's what people do when people have their core principles put to the test. This stunt by Jocospor is the exact opposite of what you'd expect if he was never inclined towards fascism. People don't double down on an identity that doesn't represent them. People don't abandon their principles because people on the internet were mean to them. Non-fascists never throw their arms up in the air and say "fuck it, I I guess I'm a Nazi now!"
NationStates did not make CCD into a hate group. We just refused to buy the facade. To anyone in the region looking at these moves and thinking that this is all still just roleplay, just...look at the tags, man. If you don't get out now, you never will and it's because you never wanted to in the first place, just like Jocospor.
by Nouveau Quebecois » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:43 am
Reventus Koth wrote:If Jocospor, Shrew, and the rest of them were really, truly not fascists this whole time, they would be doing everything they possibly could to clear their names, even if it was hard, even if it took years, because that's what people do when people have their core principles put to the test. This stunt by Jocospor is the exact opposite of what you'd expect if he was never inclined towards fascism. People don't double down on an identity that doesn't represent them. People don't abandon their principles because people on the internet were mean to them. Non-fascists never throw their arms up in the air and say "fuck it, I I guess I'm a Nazi now!"
by The New California Republic » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:45 am
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Reventus Koth wrote:If Jocospor, Shrew, and the rest of them were really, truly not fascists this whole time, they would be doing everything they possibly could to clear their names, even if it was hard, even if it took years, because that's what people do when people have their core principles put to the test. This stunt by Jocospor is the exact opposite of what you'd expect if he was never inclined towards fascism. People don't double down on an identity that doesn't represent them. People don't abandon their principles because people on the internet were mean to them. Non-fascists never throw their arms up in the air and say "fuck it, I I guess I'm a Nazi now!"
I dunno' chief. I think the idea of giving up or falling into submission still exists.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:00 am
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