Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:28 am
Strong words, too bad there isn't any real substance there. You can say you are stepping back all you want, but as long as you remain the active founder with sole executive authority nothing will change.
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
https://forum.nationstates.net/
Wayneactia wrote:Strong words, too bad there isn't any real substance there. You can say you are stepping back all you want, but as long as you remain the active founder with sole executive authority nothing will change.
Jocospor wrote:Sedgistan wrote:
I am leaving this thread locked overnight. When I re-open it tomorrow, I expect the debate to return to the topic of this thread: the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.
And what a topic that is!
If you haven't already, please consult the January Statement by Viceroy Murdoch Kellner, who has returned from his sabbatical early to oversee the Confederation's constitutional reforms.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1311093
Francois Isidore wrote:Here’s what’s interesting: Jocospor always makes posts that indicate what’s in-character and what’s out-of-character, and yet, when it comes to the administration of his region, he seems to be unable to distinguish the two. I would believe the IC apology being given, but then both the natives of the Confederation and I would both be being spoon fed lies. Maybe, just maybe they do want to change and have finally learned the error of their ways. For all intents and purposes, this is highly unlikely, but if that were to be the case then I’d expect a clearer line drawn and I’d want to see some OOC reform accompanying this supposed IC reform. Currently, that is not happening.
Kafair wrote:Francois Isidore wrote:Here’s what’s interesting: Jocospor always makes posts that indicate what’s in-character and what’s out-of-character, and yet, when it comes to the administration of his region, he seems to be unable to distinguish the two. I would believe the IC apology being given, but then both the natives of the Confederation and I would both be being spoon fed lies. Maybe, just maybe they do want to change and have finally learned the error of their ways. For all intents and purposes, this is highly unlikely, but if that were to be the case then I’d expect a clearer line drawn and I’d want to see some OOC reform accompanying this supposed IC reform. Currently, that is not happening.
Be patient my friend. According to Joco, Shrew, and just about everyone else, come the 1st of February, plenty of change will be arriving to the CCD. Once that happened, you can then make your opinion.
South Reinkalistan wrote:OOC: I'm with Kafair on this one. I can understand the scepticism, but let's all calm and wait for February 1st, when all the reforms will be ready. It'd be a much calmer and less nerve-wracking process for everyone ^-^
Kafair wrote:Francois Isidore wrote:Here’s what’s interesting: Jocospor always makes posts that indicate what’s in-character and what’s out-of-character, and yet, when it comes to the administration of his region, he seems to be unable to distinguish the two. I would believe the IC apology being given, but then both the natives of the Confederation and I would both be being spoon fed lies. Maybe, just maybe they do want to change and have finally learned the error of their ways. For all intents and purposes, this is highly unlikely, but if that were to be the case then I’d expect a clearer line drawn and I’d want to see some OOC reform accompanying this supposed IC reform. Currently, that is not happening.
Be patient my friend. According to Joco, Shrew, and just about everyone else, come the 1st of February, plenty of change will be arriving to the CCD. Once that happened, you can then make your opinion.
Kafair wrote:Be patient my friend. According to Joco, Shrew, and just about everyone else, come the 1st of February, plenty of change will be arriving to the CCD. Once that happened, you can then make your opinion.
Marxist Germany wrote:No sane region would ever give up the security of an executive founder to appease others. So I am not sure why people want Joco to go non-exec for the sake of it.
Marxist Germany wrote:No sane region would ever give up the security of an executive founder to appease others. So I am not sure why people want Joco to go non-exec for the sake of it.
Xoriet wrote:Marxist Germany wrote:No sane region would ever give up the security of an executive founder to appease others. So I am not sure why people want Joco to go non-exec for the sake of it.
An executive founder can’t disable their executive power. The entire thing is an intellectual exercise.
South Reinkalistan wrote:Xoriet wrote:An executive founder can’t disable their executive power. The entire thing is an intellectual exercise.
OOC: Which begs the question - why are you all still attacking Joco's changes because he's an executive founder when he cannot disable said executive authority?
Yokiria wrote:Disappointing, frustrating, outrageous, and unsurprising.
To the edgelords and Wehraboos in CCD: Get out of there while you still can. You're being manipulated by a few players in power, and they're going to bring you all down with them.
You're going to end up being the right-wing version of The Communist Bloc, with Jocospor as your Zenny.