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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu May 28, 2020 8:42 am

Domais wrote:Unless you have pictures of Shrew or Jocospor at a Neo-Nazi rally or at some fascist meetup in real life then they are, in my opinion, not fascists and calling them such is in my opinion an insult to all those who died or were oppressed during the tyrannical reigns of the likes Hitler and Mussolini. I find it laughable to try to compare Jocospor, a leader of a harmless online community to Mussolini a former Italian Dictator.


This is an objectively laughable standard of evidence, Domais, in more ways than I can count. You should seriously reconsider this embarrassment of a stance.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 28, 2020 10:12 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I'll add though that there's been literally zero evidence - ever - that either Jocospor or myself are OOC fascists.

I'd ask that whoever else wants to make the next "Joco and Shrew are fash" post with literally zero supporting evidence to very kindly fuck off, thanks.

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Postby Confederate Norway » Thu May 28, 2020 10:40 am

Dr ac wrote:You mean evidence besides the fact you've allied with fascist regions, had the fascist tag for ages,had actual nazi's on your discord espousing their beliefs (which i've personally seen while I've visited to post the CCoD manyifesto)and refused to remove any of the aforementioned factors?

1. Fascist regions are also dictatorships so it makes sense for the CCD to be allied with them.
2. If you are a region which theme is a dictatorship, then it would make sense to have Fascist in your tag as Fascism is well known in its support for dictatorships and it is an evil ideologue, all of which are fitting for the theme of the region.
3. Allowing Nazis on your discord does not mean they support Nazis, they could simply not care about people on their discords ideology and believe in free speech.

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Postby American Pere Housh » Thu May 28, 2020 12:55 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I'll add though that there's been literally zero evidence - ever - that either Jocospor or myself are OOC fascists.

I'd ask that whoever else wants to make the next "Joco and Shrew are fash" post with literally zero supporting evidence to very kindly fuck off, thanks.

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Tell me Farn how does this constitute flaming? People have falsely accused these two of being "fascists" OOC while you stand by and do nothing.
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Postby Vistulange » Thu May 28, 2020 12:58 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:*** Warned for flaming ***

Tell me Farn how does this constitute flaming? People have falsely accused these two of being "fascists" OOC while you stand by and do nothing.

It's pretty well established that telling other players to "fuck off" is considered flaming on the site. Been so for a long while.

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Postby The Church of Satan » Thu May 28, 2020 1:12 pm

Dom, if there's anything I've learned over the years it is that government officials lose their right to a personal opinion the second they take office. At least they do in GP. So the best advice I can offer is this; Stop doubling down and let your boss handle damage control.
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Postby Syberis » Thu May 28, 2020 1:15 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:Dom, if there's anything I've learned over the years it is that government officials lose their right to a personal opinion the second they take office. At least they do in GP. So the best advice I can offer is this; Stop doubling down and let your boss handle damage control.


Is this the official statement from TRR's alumni association, or Wintreath's? :P
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Postby The Church of Satan » Thu May 28, 2020 1:16 pm

Syberis wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:Dom, if there's anything I've learned over the years it is that government officials lose their right to a personal opinion the second they take office. At least they do in GP. So the best advice I can offer is this; Stop doubling down and let your boss handle damage control.


Is this the official statement from TRR's alumni association, or Wintreath's? :P

Now you're gettin' it! :lol2:
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Postby Syberis » Thu May 28, 2020 1:21 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Syberis wrote:
Is this the official statement from TRR's alumni association, or Wintreath's? :P

Now you're gettin' it! :lol2:


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Postby Tim-Opolis » Thu May 28, 2020 1:24 pm

I think Lazarus needs to have a Performance Review for their PR Director.
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Postby Tupolite » Thu May 28, 2020 1:26 pm

If I may, although I very much appreciate Jocospor's battle to dismantle the WA Elite and would have supported his bid for General-Secretary if I were present at the time for the campaign, the Confederation does itself no favors by its frequent vacillations in ideological alignment. The Confederation has been openly self-declared fascist far too many times for any retraction of the label to hold water before the NS community. Antics like incredulous denial of ideological credentials seem more deleterious to the Confederation's standing than anything in my opinion, especially following the failed infiltration of the North Pacific and the defection of Riakou a few months ago. In recent times, quantity of members seems to be the Confederation's main quality and even then its numbers have been ebbing as of late. My suggestion would be for the Confederation to stop apologizing for itself and take a decisive stand once again as the only major power with a ghost of a chance at effectively combating GCR supremacy.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Thu May 28, 2020 1:27 pm

I think Lazarus needs to have a defascification process for their PR director. :)
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Postby Syberis » Thu May 28, 2020 1:28 pm

Tupolite wrote:If I may, although I very much appreciate Jocospor's battle to dismantle the WA Elite and would have supported his bid for General-Secretary if I were present at the time for the campaign, the Confederation does itself no favors by its frequent vacillations in ideological alignment. The Confederation has been openly self-declared fascist far too many times for any retraction of the label to hold water before the NS community. Antics like incredulous denial of ideological credentials seem more deleterious to the Confederation's standing than anything in my opinion, especially following the failed infiltration of the North Pacific and the defection of Riakou a few months ago, In recent times, quantity of members seems to be the Confederation's main quality and even then its numbers have been ebbing as of late. My suggestion would be for the Confederation to stop apologizing for itself and take a decisive stand once again as the only major power with a ghost of a chance at effectively combating GCR supremacy.


*checks Pros and Antis*

Yup, we got a fascist telling CCD to "make a decisive stand." Wonder what stand they think CCD should make.

On a related note, this whole thing reads like someone sat in front of a thesaurus trying to find the most roundabout way to use language. An Onderwall in short form.
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Postby Tupolite » Thu May 28, 2020 1:31 pm

Syberis wrote:
Tupolite wrote:If I may, although I very much appreciate Jocospor's battle to dismantle the WA Elite and would have supported his bid for General-Secretary if I were present at the time for the campaign, the Confederation does itself no favors by its frequent vacillations in ideological alignment. The Confederation has been openly self-declared fascist far too many times for any retraction of the label to hold water before the NS community. Antics like incredulous denial of ideological credentials seem more deleterious to the Confederation's standing than anything in my opinion, especially following the failed infiltration of the North Pacific and the defection of Riakou a few months ago, In recent times, quantity of members seems to be the Confederation's main quality and even then its numbers have been ebbing as of late. My suggestion would be for the Confederation to stop apologizing for itself and take a decisive stand once again as the only major power with a ghost of a chance at effectively combating GCR supremacy.


*checks Pros and Antis*

Yup, we got a fascist telling CCD to "make a decisive stand." Wonder what stand they think CCD should make.

On a related note, this whole thing reads like someone sat in front of a thesaurus trying to find the most roundabout way to use language. An Onderwall in short form.


I... I really just convey myself like that.
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Postby Boda » Thu May 28, 2020 1:31 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:I think Lazarus needs to have a Performance Review for their PR Director.

Mhmm!
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Postby The Church of Satan » Thu May 28, 2020 1:32 pm

Syberis wrote:On a related note, this whole thing reads like someone sat in front of a thesaurus trying to find the most roundabout way to use language. An Onderwall in short form.

No. No. It has to be in arabic to achieve that.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu May 28, 2020 5:52 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:I think Lazarus needs to have a Performance Review for their PR Director.

Isn’t that what it stands for?
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu May 28, 2020 6:02 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:*** Warned for flaming ***

Tell me Farn how does this constitute flaming?

It's pretty textbook flaming. There is an option of appeal if Shrew really wants to go down that route, as third-party appeals aren't accepted.

American Pere Housh wrote:People have falsely accused these two of being "fascists" OOC while you stand by and do nothing.

If there is a genuine concern that someone is breaking the rules then the answer is to go to Moderation about it to file a report; flaming them isn't the answer.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Fri May 29, 2020 4:27 am

I'm not even going to bother giving the pro-fascist "take a stand" bait a response.

Dr ac wrote:You mean evidence besides the fact you've allied with fascist regions, had the fascist tag for ages,had actual nazi's on your discord espousing their beliefs (which i've personally seen while I've visited to post the CCoD manyifesto)and refused to remove any of the aforementioned factors?

You mean besides the fact we've closed all relations with fascist regions (after, you know, it was revealed they were OOC fascist), have since removed the fascist tag (that was only ever used in-character), and actively cleared the Discord of all this garbage?

Given we've addressed literally everything you've posted here to justify why we're apparently fascists, I'm really, really confused what your motive is for continuing to spout this garbage.

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Domais wrote:Unless you have pictures of Shrew or Jocospor at a Neo-Nazi rally or at some fascist meetup in real life then they are, in my opinion, not fascists and calling them such is in my opinion an insult to all those who died or were oppressed during the tyrannical reigns of the likes Hitler and Mussolini. I find it laughable to try to compare Jocospor, a leader of a harmless online community to Mussolini a former Italian Dictator.


This is an objectively laughable standard of evidence, Domais, in more ways than I can count. You should seriously reconsider this embarrassment of a stance.

If you're going to say something like this, at least give your own required "standard of evidence".

The Church of Satan wrote:Dom, if there's anything I've learned over the years it is that government officials lose their right to a personal opinion the second they take office. At least they do in GP. So the best advice I can offer is this; Stop doubling down and let your boss handle damage control.

Tim-Opolis wrote:I think Lazarus needs to have a Performance Review for their PR Director.

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I think Lazarus needs to have a defascification process for their PR director. :)

My god it's not enough to keep shitting on CCD because "bash the fash", you've now got to turn on a foreign officer who doesn't even defend CCD, just gives their opinion and says we're not fascist.

NSGP is unbelievable sometimes.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Fri May 29, 2020 6:34 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I'm not even going to bother giving the pro-fascist "take a stand" bait a response.

Dr ac wrote:You mean evidence besides the fact you've allied with fascist regions, had the fascist tag for ages,had actual nazi's on your discord espousing their beliefs (which i've personally seen while I've visited to post the CCoD manyifesto)and refused to remove any of the aforementioned factors?

You mean besides the fact we've closed all relations with fascist regions (after, you know, it was revealed they were OOC fascist), have since removed the fascist tag (that was only ever used in-character), and actively cleared the Discord of all this garbage?

Given we've addressed literally everything you've posted here to justify why we're apparently fascists, I'm really, really confused what your motive is for continuing to spout this garbage.

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This is an objectively laughable standard of evidence, Domais, in more ways than I can count. You should seriously reconsider this embarrassment of a stance.

If you're going to say something like this, at least give your own required "standard of evidence".

The Church of Satan wrote:Dom, if there's anything I've learned over the years it is that government officials lose their right to a personal opinion the second they take office. At least they do in GP. So the best advice I can offer is this; Stop doubling down and let your boss handle damage control.

Tim-Opolis wrote:I think Lazarus needs to have a Performance Review for their PR Director.

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I think Lazarus needs to have a defascification process for their PR director. :)

My god it's not enough to keep shitting on CCD because "bash the fash", you've now got to turn on a foreign officer who doesn't even defend CCD, just gives their opinion and says we're not fascist.

NSGP is unbelievable sometimes.

They are sheeple Shrew. I may not be a member of the CCD but I will support you on this issue.
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Postby Jocospor » Fri May 29, 2020 8:03 am

Honestly I think this is now a case of closet fascists battling with their personal angst. And, obviously, that's a theory validated without the need for any hard proof.

Blood Wine, E-W Souls and those others concerned, please cease populating this thread with your subtle fascist leanings. We don't want that rot here.
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Fri May 29, 2020 8:20 am

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Postby Gorundu » Fri May 29, 2020 8:22 am

Honestly I think this has always been a case of closet fascists battling with their personal angst. And, obviously, that's a theory validated with plenty of hard proof.

Jocospor, ShrewLlamaLand and those others concerned, please cease populating this thread with your subtle fascist leanings. We don't want that rot here.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri May 29, 2020 8:24 am

Okay, points made, everyone back off from each other for a little bit. We'd gone an entire 4 pages without the redtext being deployed. Let's aim for 10 this time?

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Postby Jocospor » Fri May 29, 2020 8:33 am

Sedgistan wrote:Okay, points made, everyone back off from each other for a little bit. We'd gone an entire 4 pages without the redtext being deployed. Let's aim for 10 this time?

I find it amusing that the moment I put forward a ridiculous theory, a mod swoops in and attempts to defuse the rising tensions.

What you've erroneously failed to notice is that there's been 116 pages of unjust claims being made against CCD. If NSGP can't take a criticism after just one post, well, that's telling in my opinion. Your intervention, too, is telling.

Now the point's been made.
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