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Postby Zeritae » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:35 pm

Saint Nicholas and the Hussars wrote:Lol I wonder if people are going to still call them fascists despite cutting all ties with OOC ones. You think those people won’t stop until they’ve assimilated them into their beliefs?

People will keep calling the fascists until the CCD removes anything related to fascism, even remotely.
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Postby West Heisen » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:47 pm

Zeritae wrote:
Saint Nicholas and the Hussars wrote:Lol I wonder if people are going to still call them fascists despite cutting all ties with OOC ones. You think those people won’t stop until they’ve assimilated them into their beliefs?

People will keep calling the fascists until the CCD removes anything related to fascism, even remotely.

And remove the "CD" from CCD.
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Postby Boda » Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:40 pm

Bedetopia wrote:Could this be the start of a war between the IRX and the CCD?

Well they would need to learn how to raid first
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Postby Aurum Raider » Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:49 pm

Saint Nicholas and the Hussars wrote:Lol I wonder if people are going to still call them fascists despite cutting all ties with OOC ones. You think those people won’t stop until they’ve assimilated them into their beliefs?


Your rhetoric only works if people forget that fascism frequently tries very hard to appear to be anything but, and that victimhood is central to it's narrative.

The climate presently seems to be 'Congratulations, we are not going to deny you've done a good thing. You don't look overtly fascist, but what's with those weird friends of yours, and the red banners?'
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Postby Sllonsonnopia » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:02 pm

Aurum Raider wrote:
Saint Nicholas and the Hussars wrote:Lol I wonder if people are going to still call them fascists despite cutting all ties with OOC ones. You think those people won’t stop until they’ve assimilated them into their beliefs?


Your rhetoric only works if people forget that fascism frequently tries very hard to appear to be anything but, and that victimhood is central to it's narrative.

The climate presently seems to be 'Congratulations, we are not going to deny you've done a good thing. You don't look overtly fascist, but what's with those weird friends of yours, and the red banners?'

Would you paraphrase this?

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Postby Aurum Raider » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:05 pm

Sllonsonnopia wrote:Would you paraphrase this?

Sure. People think that CCD did a good thing, but still don't trust them.
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Postby Sllonsonnopia » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:07 pm

Aurum Raider wrote:
Sllonsonnopia wrote:Would you paraphrase this?

Sure. People think that CCD did a good thing, but still don't trust them.


Thanks. Do you believe CCD is OOC fascist?
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Postby Aurum Raider » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:18 pm

Sllonsonnopia wrote:Thanks. Do you believe CCD is OOC fascist?

What they are is between them and their conscience. I can't say what they are or aren't OoC, but I can say that I think their campaign against the 'WA Elite' unnerves me.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Sun May 03, 2020 1:21 am

CCD Cracks Down on OOC Fascism:

To the Confederation, and to the NationStates community as a whole,

I want to begin this statement by reiterating that the Confederation is, as it always has been, a region of roleplay. The Confederation will not, and should not, police how nations may or may not roleplay in-game. We are not a fascist region, we are an IC dictatorial region, but we welcome dictatorial nations of all types: right-wing and left-wing, capitalist and communist, and yes, nations roleplaying as fascist dictatorships.

I do want to stress, however, that this tolerance applies strictly to nations roleplaying in-game. Recently, it has come to my own attention, as well as the attention of Jocospor, the Imperial Council, and indeed the Confederation as a whole, that OOC fascism has become a large issue that exists not just within the dark fringes of the internet, but as a real part of the NationStates community. OOC fascism has been present within regions we have chosen to align ourselves with, both in NationStates and in off-site platforms such as Discord, and to limited extent, within the Confederation itself.

Let me make this clear: it has never been my intention, nor the intention of Jocospor, nor any other nation that has ever served on the Imperial Council (or its predecessor, the Supreme Council, for that matter) to allow or encourage the spread of real-life heinous ideologies, such as Nazism or fascism, outside of NationStates.

A few days ago, comments were made by a certain region's officers in their off-site Discord server. Jocospor and I were shocked by the nature of these comments, immediately cut contact with this region, and demanded that all regions within the IRX, an alliance of far-right dictatorial regions, follow this example. Unfortunately, their regional leaders refused, and some even defended these horrific comments - this ultimately resulted in the Confederation withdrawing from IRX and cutting ties with all regions involved.

Following the fallout from this, and further investigation into this matter, Jocospor and I have decided that the only reasonable course of action to take is that the Confederation must crack down harder on OOC fascism, both on and off-site. The Confederation is the largest force of dictatorships throughout NationStates, and must serve as a positive example to all aspiring collections of totalitarian states.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs under Valerox will soon begin the task of contacting all of the Confederation's embassies self-identifying as fascist regions. These regions will be asked to confirm that their support for these ideologies does not extend OOC, and will be required to close any regional embassies with regions that the Confederation has identifed as OOC fascist. Those regions that confirm their support for OOC fascism, refuse to close these embassies, or outright refuse the Confederation's contact, will no longer be welcome within our interregional community. Henceforth, The Confederation commits to cutting all contact with regions either permitting the spread of OOC fascism, or aligning themselves with those who do, and all such regional embassies will be closed.

Unfortunately, the two regions named in our previous dispatch, Nazi Europa and The Union of the Greater Axis Powers, have refused to respond to the Confederation's request. Our regional embassies are being withdrawn as you read this.

Going further, the Confederation has committed to cracking down harder on our regional Discord server: the recent introduction of a #reporting channel will hopefully assist in more consistently censoring these posts, and regional officers will strive to increase discipline, and more quickly ban nations involved in posting content related to OOC fascism.

Once again, the Confederation is a region of roleplay: heinous OOC ideologies are not welcome in our region, and dare I say, not welcome within the NationStates community as a whole.

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Postby LollerLand » Sun May 03, 2020 3:23 am

Even though I am skeptical about this suden change in the policies of CCD, I do think these are steps in the right direction and hope that they will continue.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun May 03, 2020 3:28 am

Dare I say it? The CCD look like they're actually up to some good these days! (As ever, I reserve my right to flip-flop in case you lot do.)
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Postby Dominioan » Sun May 03, 2020 8:02 am

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Postby Kanglia » Sun May 03, 2020 9:33 am

Better late than never but better never late. Regardless, good to see CCD actually doing this.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Sun May 03, 2020 9:40 am

Finally, the CCD is doing something about fascists in their ranks, rather than sitting doing nothing. Trust me, this will benefit CCD.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Sun May 03, 2020 9:41 am

Aurum Raider wrote:
Sllonsonnopia wrote:Thanks. Do you believe CCD is OOC fascist?

What they are is between them and their conscience. I can't say what they are or aren't OoC, but I can say that I think their campaign against the 'WA Elite' unnerves me.

I mean, sometimes the WA passes resolutions that are dangerously close to imperialism.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sun May 03, 2020 11:20 am

I am glad that the CCD is taking good steps towards reform. :)
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Postby Xoriet » Sun May 03, 2020 12:42 pm

That's a good step forward for CCD, the first one I would call noteworthy, since this all began. You've made a good decision here. Hopefully it turns out to be in earnest.
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Postby Yokiria » Sun May 03, 2020 1:18 pm

Awesome. Just a few steps away from glorious redemption. Follow through on the new foreign affairs policy and Discord crackdown, and then do your best to keep the OOC fascists away from CCD and its embassies in the future.

Then we can get back to bitching about your publicity stunts in the World Assembly, as nature intended.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Sun May 03, 2020 1:19 pm

Good job, I suppose? Forgive me if I don't take you at your word just yet but this is a good move. Hopefully this will be permanent. Hopefully.
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Postby Valerox » Sun May 03, 2020 1:27 pm

Just adding onto what Shrew said, he speaks for all of us when we say that this is a zero tolerance policy. I will be personally, individually contacting every one of our allied regions who have embassies with/claim to endorse OOC fascism/nazism and demanding them to either cut all ties with offending regions, or if they are offending themselves then close down embassies immediately. If you have any evidence of an allied region engaging in these activities, telegram me and I will take action. I promise as the Head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs I will not abide anyone claiming alliance to the CCD, and tolerating those disgusting beliefs.

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Postby The Gilded Star » Sun May 03, 2020 5:14 pm

Might not be an easy task, but CCD has shown before that when they set out to do something, they put full effort into it. Here's to hoping you can successfully drive a wedge between CCD and OOC fascism once and for all. I sincerely think the CCD community will be better off in the future once it's done.

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Postby Ikania » Sun May 03, 2020 8:16 pm

This is a far cry from the CCD we knew not even three months ago. I suppose this little egospasm of fascism means nothing then?

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I, for one, remain skeptical.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Mon May 04, 2020 2:22 am

Yokiria wrote:Then we can get back to bitching about your publicity stunts in the World Assembly, as nature intended.

Oh no, someone figured it out.

Jar Wattinree wrote:Good job, I suppose? Forgive me if I don't take you at your word just yet but this is a good move. Hopefully this will be permanent. Hopefully.

Understandable honestly, although this time I assure you it will be permanent.

Ikania wrote:This is a far cry from the CCD we knew not even three months ago. I suppose this little egospasm of fascism means nothing then?

These embassies were constructed with the intention of forming a strictly in-game relationship between the CCD and these regions. Unfortunately, as we've learned, it doesn't quite work like that.
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Postby Jocospor » Mon May 04, 2020 5:38 pm

Further comments within various Discords, including racial degradation of the most appalling kind, confirm to me that this is the right decision to be taking.

For those who are actually interested in actual CCD Gameplay, there is currently an Inquisitional Hearing running against the President of the Imperial Senate (something something House of Cards?):

INQUISITIONAL HEARING #33030520

Alexander the Magnus

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You stand accused of having breached the following aspects of the Code of Law of the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators:

  • 2-IV: "This body hereby declares any and all gross negligence committed by the governing authorities of the Confederation to be illegal;"
  • 2-VIII: "This body hereby declares that any assault against the reputation of the Confederation (such as, but not limited to, factbooks, RMB posts, etc., which may damage the region's good name) shall be illegal;"
  • 3-VI: "This body hereby declares any disturbances most gratuitous of this hallowed region's peaceable society to be illegal;"

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As such, you have been charged with the following:

  • Gross Negligence;
  • Damages Against the Reputation of the Confederation;
  • Disturbances most gratuitous of this hallowed region's peaceable society.

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The Mouth and Will hereby calls upon the Ministry of Home Affairs and Ministry of Foreign Affairs to provide evidence for the above charges:

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Respond immediately or risk ejection from the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Thu May 14, 2020 4:45 am

CCD Continues Stance Against Heinous OOC Ideologies

To the Confederation, and to the NationStates community as a whole,

This announcement is intended to function as a follow up to our previous statement on the issue of OOC fascism. If you have not previously read this statement, I would recommend doing to provide context here.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1362534

Ultimately, our stance remains strong and unchanged: the Confederation is a region of roleplay, dedicated to dictatorial nations of all kinds. The Confederation does not tolerate heinous OOC ideologies, or regions in close contact with those who do, and we will continue to maintain a strong stance against OOC fascism, Nazism and communism.

One question I have been asked, many times, is... why now? Why has the Confederation only now decided to cut ties with regions long embracing OOC fascism?

I want to make it very clear that the Confederation itself has never tolerated these ideologies within our own region. Our past position towards other regions is one of ignorance, not malice. At the time we considered the spread of OOC fascism within NationStates a small, isolated and largely outdated issue, and this was supported by the fact that most of these regions hid their association with these people well. We did not expect many of these regions would house almost exclusively OOC fascists as regional officers. We did not expect that many of these regions would allow open discussion of awful, disciminatory topics upon further investigation of their off-site regional servers. We did not expect these regions to band together as "allies" to defend each other over the nature of these comments when we found them, and called them out for it. I think this gives a general idea, we simply had no appreciation of the scope of the problem, and now that it has been made crystal clear to us, the Confederation is rightfully ending our association with any region following these heinous OOC ideologies. I personally consider this as one of the greatest miscalculations our region has made in its long history, and on behalf of the Confederation, to the wider NationStates community as a whole, I wish to formally apologise for our past association with these regions.

Moving forward, the Confederation has now closed a second wave of embassy regions. I want to make it clear that not all of these regions are OOC fascist. Many are regions who, although not fascist themselves, maintain close ties with regions who are. And there are also several who are not fascist at all - these are simply smaller, inactive regions with which we are closing embassies with in preparation for the implementation of our new embassy policy; a policy which intends to very clearly set out that the Confederation does not associate with OOC fascist regions, nor will we maintain embassies with those who do.

If you are a regional officer from a region with which an embassy is being closed, please contact me if you are unsure, believe we have made a mistake, or have rectifed the issues made clear by the Confederation's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Valerox, and wish to reestablish an embassy with the Confederation.

Further, I am pleased to report on the state of our regional Discord server: our zero tolerance policy towards racism, sexism, homophobia, transpohobia, or other discrimination of any kind, as well as the recent introduction of a new #reporting channel, has resulted in a very noticeable improvement in the quality of discourse. I can only hope to see this trend continue.

Once again, the Confederation is a region of roleplay: heinous OOC ideologies are not, and never have been, welcome within our region. From this point further, the Confederation wholly commits to eliminating our association with regions who do follow these ideologies, and to repairing the great damage this association has done to our regional repuation as a whole.

Hail the Confederation!

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on behalf of
Imperial Council
Confederation of Corrupt Dictators

I am very happy to take any questions, queries or concerns related to this announcement, or more generally relating to the Confederation as a whole, here if anyone has them.
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