Confederation of Corrupt Dictators: Ultimate Gameplay Thread

[Technocratic Founder]

See, people always seem to concentrate on what happens and not what the official response is

Almost as if this shit doesn't even happen in other places.

[New Spiedska]

So which is it Joco? Are your fascists "just roleplaying" or is it OOC fascism to stick it to all of these "censored pansy" PC sorts?
This is why no one believes you when you say it's just IC. Your lot seems to oscillate between OOC fascism and IC fascism as it suits you.


Blows a hole in the "the CCD is my family" bs so many of them were spewing earlier.

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I'd be a censoring pansy if I didn't ALLOW players to RP as fascists. Other founders do this, and I don't subscribe to that. If things get out of hand, we step in. See, people always seem to concentrate on what happens and not what the official response is. People post screenshots of unsavoury things said in our Discord; people don't post screenshots of the consequential reprimands.

And re your remarks about family, those in my region WELL KNOW that I don't consider them any more than players in a game. Sure, they might have a home within CCD, but its in the context of a political simulator. They are NOT my friends, and they know it.

Holy shit dude. This is honestly kind of sad. Is this what you take joy in?

[Jocospor]

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I'd be a censoring pansy if I didn't ALLOW players to RP as fascists. Other founders do this, and I don't subscribe to that. If things get out of hand, we step in. See, people always seem to concentrate on what happens and not what the official response is. People post screenshots of unsavoury things said in our Discord; people don't post screenshots of the consequential reprimands.

And re your remarks about family, those in my region WELL KNOW that I don't consider them any more than players in a game. Sure, they might have a home within CCD, but its in the context of a political simulator. They are NOT my friends, and they know it.

Holy shit dude. This is honestly kind of sad. Is this what you take joy in?

Again, ????

You can all take an emotional perspective on that position (in which case, I would agree with you: it's a bleakly sad stance to take), but the fact remains that it's objectively the safest way to approach this game. Can you imagine if I'd shared personal information with other players? God, imagine the things that would be circulating about me then.

[Newark Aristocracy]

Holy shit dude. This is honestly kind of sad. Is this what you take joy in?

Again, ????

You can all take an emotional perspective on that position (in which case, I would agree with you: it's a bleakly sad stance to take), but the fact remains that it's objectively the safest way to approach this game. Can you imagine if I'd shared personal information with other players? God, imagine the things that would be circulating about me then.

Joscospor,I have sent you 4 TG's in the last 10 minutes. please respond to one of them

[Prydania]

I'd be a censoring pansy if I didn't ALLOW players to RP as fascists.

This is a misnomer argument trotted out by Joco, Shrew, and their CCD lapdogs.
As if everyone else in NS banned RPing fascism.

Look Joco. I'm the head RP mod in TNP. You think I, or my RP mod staff, ban players RPing as fascists? Of course not. For fuck's sake, Prydania IC had two fascist periods in its history. So drop this "I'm just letting my players to do what they want, unlike you all who are censoring pansies!" act. It's not accurate.

The difference between how I run TNP RP and how you run the CCD is that I don't let people use IC fascism as a cover for OOC fascism, and anything approaching OOC racism, antisemitism, Islamophobia, homophobia, or racial supremacism is nipped in the bud quickly and harshly.
Meanwhile you harbour people who advocate all of the above and ally your region with actual OOC Nazis.

If things get out of hand, we step in. See, people always seem to concentrate on what happens and not what the official response is. People post screenshots of unsavoury things said in our Discord; people don't post screenshots of the consequential reprimands.

You and Shrew have gone on and on about this. "Oh we step in and punish people."
And yet there are always more stories coming forward. So how about this. People will start giving you the benefit of the doubt when you and your region (and your Discord) start showing marked improvements.

And re your remarks about family, those in my region WELL KNOW that I don't consider them any more than players in a game. Sure, they might have a home within CCD, but its in the context of a political simulator. They are NOT my friends, and they know it.

You might want to run that by the CCDers earlier in this thread who went on about how the CCD was "family."

So explain your alliance with regions that do.

If you expect me to be bothered to explain, I expect you to scroll up through the thread and search for the MULTIPLE TIMES this question has been answered.

Your previous "explanations" have been unsatisfactory.
If they are still your answer to my question? Well I know all I need to know.

[Quebecshire]

The WA Elite does exist. Shrewllamaland's dispatch PLAINLY outlines it, and now has over 1,000 reads.

Reads don't mean anything in your favour buddy. I've read plenty of things I found to be stupid, hypocritical, or arrogantly projecting.

[Saint Nicholas and the Hussars]

>Any Pacific
vomit

I used to possess this "all pacifics are bad" mentality not long ago. In retrospect, it's an unsubstantiated and completely jejune assertion.

You’re saying it’s wrong? I’m saying they’re not fairly decent, but not horrible. Still, it’s subjective


great Intellectual

[New Spiedska]

Holy shit dude. This is honestly kind of sad. Is this what you take joy in?

Again, ????

You can all take an emotional perspective on that position (in which case, I would agree with you: it's a bleakly sad stance to take), but the fact remains that it's objectively the safest way to approach this game. Can you imagine if I'd shared personal information with other players? God, imagine the things that would be circulating about me then.

No, it's just sad and gives me second-hand embarrassment watching you be so horribly and obviously bitter by this all. Let me guess: the dreaded WA Elite is bothering you again?

[Stellar Colonies]

I am taking CCD's side in ALL matters. As a TEP resident who survived the coup,let me tell ya,CCD should not be treated the way it is. I also happen to be a member of CCD's regional Discord. CCD deserves better. CCD shouldn't have to be treated the way they are.





Also,ANTIFA is a stupid organisation that should go burn in the pits of hell.

DOWN WITH THE WA ELITE! DOWN WITH THE WA ELITE! DOWN WITH THE WA ELITE!

Bye then.

(Late by 5 hours, but still)

[Nakena]

Again, ????

You can all take an emotional perspective on that position (in which case, I would agree with you: it's a bleakly sad stance to take), but the fact remains that it's objectively the safest way to approach this game. Can you imagine if I'd shared personal information with other players? God, imagine the things that would be circulating about me then.

Joscospor,I have sent you 4 TG's in the last 10 minutes. please respond to one of them

Notice me senpai.

[New Spiedska]

I am taking CCD's side in ALL matters. As a TEP resident who survived the coup,let me tell ya,CCD should not be treated the way it is. I also happen to be a member of CCD's regional Discord. CCD deserves better. CCD shouldn't have to be treated the way they are.





Also,ANTIFA is a stupid organisation that should go burn in the pits of hell.

DOWN WITH THE WA ELITE! DOWN WITH THE WA ELITE! DOWN WITH THE WA ELITE!

Hope he sees this bro

[ShrewLlamaLand]

See, people always seem to concentrate on what happens and not what the official response is

Almost as if this shit doesn't even happen in other places.

It does, they just don't have a dozen puppet nations in their Discord taking screenshots of everything they say.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

I'd be a censoring pansy if I didn't ALLOW players to RP as fascists. Other founders do this, and I don't subscribe to that. If things get out of hand, we step in. See, people always seem to concentrate on what happens and not what the official response is. People post screenshots of unsavoury things said in our Discord; people don't post screenshots of the consequential reprimands.

[Kuriko]

The Shadow Cult of Jocospor → region: 10000 Islands
83 minutes ago
Hello new arrivals, and welcome to NationStates!

*ALERT* - you've made a grave mistake.

WHY exactly did you choose 10000 Islands?

Did you see their Delegate, Kuriko, was elected as WA Secretary-General? It was rigged!!

Did you see their recent "Commend Kuriko" proposal? Also rigged, and totally undeserved. It was forced through by the corrupt WA Elite.

I'm sure you had good intentions when you choose 10000 Islands as your home. You've been misled. Delegate Kuriko is not to be trusted. Do NOT listen to whatever they respond to this with.

Besides, we have much better champagne in the Confederation! Just click the button below for your free sample.

Jocospor
sole proprietor of the
MONET & CHARDIN CHAMPAGNE COMPANY LTD

This gave me quite a laugh, because someone is still very salty over their loss in an open and fair election. Pro-tip Jocospor, accept the loss for what it was. You can't play politics on NS the right way, and so you will never get anywhere.

[Badivermeraed]

I think the difference is that other places have a clue to what they're doing xD

[Nouveau Quebecois]

This thread is never going to die is it?

Normally, I don't want to post here and frankly, I really am reluctant to [...] I might be reluctant to post here [...]

Nobody cares about you and your ... region. I'm going to stop posting here from now on, and I'd strongly encourage everyone to do the same.

"In 2020, the WA Elite voted the CCD the worst place to live in NationStates. Main issues; skyhigh rate of fascism, and more propaganda on the regional thread then anywhere else. Can't deny it, it's all true... but everybody still wants to post here."

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Yeah, that would be the Delegate of Farkasfalka who is a Holocaust denier.

I was about to say that Farkasfalka is not fascist because they do not have the fascist tag but apparently they do now, so they have dropped that act. Now, the CCD is not fascist because it is not tagged fascist, how can it be fascist if it is not tagged fascist.

Well, it didn't say you were doing these things. It states you're being friends with people who do these things, and I'm pretty sure they do exist.

Yeah, that would be the Delegate of Farkasfalka who is a Holocaust denier.

Consequently, this thread is about the CCD so I won't address these issues here. I will address them on Farkasfalka's Gameplay Thread as soon as possible.

[South Reinkalistan]

I'd be a censoring pansy if I didn't ALLOW players to RP as fascists. Other founders do this, and I don't subscribe to that. If things get out of hand, we step in. See, people always seem to concentrate on what happens and not what the official response is. People post screenshots of unsavoury things said in our Discord; people don't post screenshots of the consequential reprimands.

I'm going to be fair here, there have been some efforts to get rid of these unsavoury things, as seen here:



I think this is a step in the right direction, but the CCD still needs to definitely shore up its act. You still welcome fascism, you still ally with fascists, you still are sympathising with them. You don't cease to be a fascist region just because you're clamping down on unsavoury stuff being said in your discord. This reaction was made primarily after the shots were exposed.

The CCD still has a host of issues. Instead of rapidly defending yourselves like you have done, acknowledge that there are serious and genuine issues with how you manage your region.

Your region is responsible for some baaaaaaaaaad things, and this consistent attitude of "oh we did nothing wrong" isn't going to make anyone think you've changed. Your power dynamic is still frightening and unhealthy. You still have a following of rather edgy folks. You still ally with fascist regions. You still flaunt your hastily-thought-out shit across the WA, and then get all affronted when people are sceptical of your intentions. You still poach from other regions.

You've made mistakes, but mistakes don't make you; it's how you come back from them. That line sounds horrifically cheesy, but the point stands: you need to get your shit together. There is no WA Elite. Your consistent attacks and toxic behaviour towards others have given you a bad name. You need to change and adapt. Run away from that fact as much as you want, it's the truth.

Let's say you heed my words. Let's say that you issue an apology like you did a few months ago. Stick to that apology. Build on it, work on it.

You've dug yourselves an unfathomably deep hole. It's time to stop digging, and start making your way back up. With that, I'm going to genuinely stop posting in this thread now. It's taken up over 100 of my posts, and I think it's time to finally walk away from the CCD and my history with it for good.

[Lord Dominator]

The Shadow Cult of Jocospor → region: 10000 Islands
83 minutes ago
Hello new arrivals, and welcome to NationStates!

*ALERT* - you've made a grave mistake.

WHY exactly did you choose 10000 Islands?

Did you see their Delegate, Kuriko, was elected as WA Secretary-General? It was rigged!!

Did you see their recent "Commend Kuriko" proposal? Also rigged, and totally undeserved. It was forced through by the corrupt WA Elite.

I'm sure you had good intentions when you choose 10000 Islands as your home. You've been misled. Delegate Kuriko is not to be trusted. Do NOT listen to whatever they respond to this with.

Besides, we have much better champagne in the Confederation! Just click the button below for your free sample.

Jocospor
sole proprietor of the
MONET & CHARDIN CHAMPAGNE COMPANY LTD

This gave me quite a laugh, because someone is still very salty over their loss in an open and fair election. Pro-tip Jocospor, accept the loss for what it was. You can't play politics on NS the right way, and so you will never get anywhere.

And before we get a 'ah but the vote was rigged' kind of comment, I'll note that Jocospor wouldn't have won the General Election had he made it in. Kuriko alone had nearly 3 times as many votes as Jcocspor in the 3rd round, and Sakana had nearly double. Acting like you would've managed to somehow overcome that deficient had you only made it there is entirely ludicrous.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Your region is responsible for some baaaaaaaaaad things, and this consistent attitude of "oh we did nothing wrong" isn't going to make anyone think you've changed.

At some point I do believe that the CCD is going to be tired of having to appease foreigners who will simply never appreciate the region for what it is. At some point, I do believe the CCD will stop tolerating being held to unreasonably high standards by the international community (or WA Elite if you prefer) that no other region in the game holds. At some point, the CCD and it's leadership will snap, and say no to this plain online smear campaign.

And then we can all be happy. You don't have to dedicate yourself to harassing the CCD, and the CCD can enjoy not being policed.

[The Gilded Star]

Do you physically know the person at the other side of the keyboard? As in have you met them in real life?

No, you certainly cannot trust someone whose identity you don't even know. Surely that's just a fact? Cyber security 101.

I mean, I do agree you shouldn't trust strangers, but meeting someone in person doesn't automatically make them trustworthy either. Bad people are bad people no matter how you interact with them.

[Aurum Raider]

At some point I do believe that the CCD is going to be tired of having to appease foreigners who will simply never appreciate the region for what it is. At some point, I do believe the CCD will stop tolerating being held to unreasonably high standards by the international community (or WA Elite if you prefer) that no other region in the game holds. At some point, the CCD and it's leadership will snap, and say no to this plain online smear campaign.

And then we can all be happy. You don't have to dedicate yourself to harassing the CCD, and the CCD can enjoy not being policed.

What exactly will they do about it. Ignore everyone who has something bad to say? Not a good look queen.
I hate to tell you this, but I don't think there's much the CCD - or any region for that matter - can really do about being held to any standard.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

What exactly will they do about it. Ignore everyone who has something bad to say? Not a good look queen.

Addressing the issues in the name of appeasement doesn't seem to paint them a 'good look' to the international community (or WA Elite if you prefer) either.

So what's the solution, then? Other then of course, a complete breakdown of of the core culture and tradition of the CCD which I am sure can't be abided.

[Sedgistan]

You've dug yourselves an unfathomably deep hole. It's time to stop digging, and start making your way back up. With that, I'm going to genuinely stop posting in this thread now. It's taken up over 100 of my posts, and I think it's time to finally walk away from the CCD and my history with it for good.

Can you actually do that this time, or stop saying you will? This thread has more than enough shitposting already. It really doesn't need all the "this is the last time I'm posting here" -- "oh, ho ho, look who's back!" rubbish too.

If you're posting to say you're not gonna post again, you're already missing the point.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

You've dug yourselves an unfathomably deep hole. It's time to stop digging, and start making your way back up. With that, I'm going to genuinely stop posting in this thread now. It's taken up over 100 of my posts, and I think it's time to finally walk away from the CCD and my history with it for good.

Can you actually do that this time, or stop saying you will? This thread has more than enough shitposting already. It really doesn't need all the "this is the last time I'm posting here" -- "oh, ho ho, look who's back!" rubbish too.

If you're posting to say you're not gonna post again, you're already missing the point.

CYBERCCD, 2077